asciilifeform: (tm) (r)

asciilifeform: لا إله إلا الله محمد رسول الله ☟︎

asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-01-2016#1380275 << i could try feigning stupidity and becoming sturmbannführer of something, but i don't think it works like that - you can't turn into a hapsburg emperor by elongating your nose, last i heard ☝︎

asciilifeform: it is to answer 'wtf did this come from' questions, as a class.

asciilifeform: mod6: but now you perhaps see why i did ?

asciilifeform: os+language such that a usable and correct bitcoin client is 10kB of src.

asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-01-2016#1380266 << yes! and you can almost ~define~ 'sane system' this way. with the caveat that it can't be a non-orthogonal fudge like a program consisting of one line 'start_bitcoind()' nor anything in that spirit. ORTHOGONAL operators. ☝︎☟︎

asciilifeform: mod6: does your vtron implement 'origin' ?

asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-01-2016#1380239 << THIS IS what my 'o' command was for!11111 ☝︎

asciilifeform: sealed pipes from arse into the sea are a very modern (and shaky) abstraction.

asciilifeform: cloaka maxima was open air, etc.

asciilifeform: mega-unsurprise

asciilifeform: but not sure how i came upon this.

asciilifeform: i was somehow under the idea that the romans lounged around in their communal shitters, both sexes, for hours at a stretch, for no particularly good reason, just chit-chat

asciilifeform: how does that make the difference ?

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu - http://trilema.com/2016/the-sad-state-of-bitcoin-code/#comment-116293

asciilifeform: there is no place in computingdom where one does not find it after just a light scratch.

asciilifeform: it is all-pervasive.

asciilifeform: reducing the cpu instruction set is sorta like lancing one particular bubonic boil on the body of a plague victim.

asciilifeform: so there is nothing new there.

asciilifeform: incidentally, 'mips' cpu fits on one page: it was printed in the inner cover of the book my brother went to school with, and likewise inside same book, edition of decade later, and is in every other systems arch. book on the planet, also inside front cover.

asciilifeform: or that the sea of shit in which we are now drowning was implicit in 1940s model of computer, and is no accident

asciilifeform: i suspect that ~emergence~ is a difficult concept for people. e.g., the fact that the digits of 'pi' are not in any sense 'random'

asciilifeform: 'It is called the 'One-Page CPU' because you can fit the specification on an 8.5 by 11 sheet of paper without margins using 8 point Consolas font, and still have lots of room to spare. It is intended to be an easy to emulate compile target that supports context switching and interrupts.'

asciilifeform: so well that their trying to somehow reboot it, rather than burning it to the ground, begins to beggar the imagination

asciilifeform: who understands the von neumann shitstack VERY WELL

asciilifeform: every once in a while, i run into somebody like this

asciilifeform: http://recc.robertelder.org/op-cpu.txt << he has a full toolchain, incl. c compiler, and several emulators for it

asciilifeform: mainly for http://recc.robertelder.org

asciilifeform: jurov: mega-link

asciilifeform: (moves very fresh coin back'n'forth)

asciilifeform: and, interestingly, it is very easy to distinguish the tx spamola with naked eye

asciilifeform: massive shitflood of doublespends

asciilifeform: has anybody been graphing ph0rklets ?

asciilifeform: REORG.

asciilifeform: woah

asciilifeform: lemme guess, grepped for comments, and for 0-9

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: ever read the thing before ?

asciilifeform: i think mircea_popescu is really enjoying this, somehow

asciilifeform: i've never known any thinking folk who actually relied on 'public education' for any useful thing they knew.

asciilifeform: there was never any other way to learn from other people.

asciilifeform: l0lz

asciilifeform: ah

asciilifeform: thestringpuller: there was an episode at c3 involving a box of matches, prolly what mircea_popescu was remembering.

asciilifeform: neither of us 'asked parents', played with matches, yes

asciilifeform: yes

asciilifeform: if this was not so, there is no cure.

asciilifeform: thestringpuller: ideally he learned it in kindergarten when he added 2+2. correctly.

asciilifeform: (in that most of the reward will be reaped by others, who paid nothing)

asciilifeform: it is bad business sense.

asciilifeform: thestringpuller: nobody gets paid to fix foundations.

asciilifeform: it beats ambling about like redditard, smashing into every possible wall, and never knowing why.

asciilifeform: fwiw, unlike some folks, i appreciate this gift. sorta like when doctor tells 'you have six months'. would you rather be surprised ?

asciilifeform: no parachute, just a helpful fella telling you how many metres until your splat.

asciilifeform: there is nothing wrong with this, once one adjusts one's expectations.

asciilifeform: 'dismal science'

asciilifeform: back when the english folks were literate, they had a name for this,

asciilifeform: 'you aren't virile enough! go feed yourself to pigz!111'

asciilifeform: he could give a good gift to folks, matchbox that when pushed tells you:

asciilifeform: and reading mircea_popescu on certain subjects is rather reminiscent of this 'computer'

asciilifeform: it worked great.

asciilifeform: none.

asciilifeform: it worked !1111111

asciilifeform: when you push it, the word правильно (CORRECT) ☟︎☟︎

asciilifeform: he: 'flip it over'

asciilifeform: when i push it out, nothing in it

asciilifeform: he hands me a matchbox.

asciilifeform: i say 'no way.' next day...

asciilifeform: he said 'i will give you a gift! a real computer!'

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: when i was a small boy, my elder brother taught me a lesson once: ☟︎

asciilifeform bbl

asciilifeform: 'kicking the dead lion'

asciilifeform: every batch of plowing flies on the planet ?

asciilifeform: as in stray constants ?

asciilifeform: whatcha even doing

asciilifeform: unsurprisingly

asciilifeform: jurov did some diggin on std::map and everybody barfed

asciilifeform: boost is used in trb for iterators, for the most part

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: what you're really interested in is std:: structures

asciilifeform: (boost exists largely because cpp is not actually programmable in without using something like boost. which has been largely incorporated into the recent standard.)

asciilifeform: that is, using corrupted versions of gcc ☟︎

asciilifeform: but then realized that this would lead us into perdition

asciilifeform: by using c++11-isms

asciilifeform: incidentally not so long ago i felt the desire to rewrite chunks of trb to abolish boost

asciilifeform: boost_foreach is not, it is an iterator over some set

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: for(;;) is an infinite loop

asciilifeform: http://www.loper-os.org/?p=388&cpage=1#comment-17578 << l0l thestringpuller

asciilifeform: батька атаман (tm) (r)

asciilifeform: hey i knew a few.

asciilifeform: notbad.jpg

asciilifeform: Панували, добували / І славу, і волю; / Минулося — осталися / Могили на полі.

asciilifeform: somehow i escaped this in ukr school

asciilifeform: http://poetry.uazone.net/kobzar/ivan_pidkova.html << spiffy

asciilifeform: one comes to mind, who hired germans to build him a mustard gas factory

asciilifeform: some of them were pretty interesting folk

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: ioan p. reminds me, there really oughta be some good material floating about re: the 20th c. chinese 'warlords' (as they are for some reason called in english world)

asciilifeform: and mircea_popescu is correct re: that i cannot possibly have any idea ~why~ peter 1 did what he did.

asciilifeform: i suppose herr ceausescu would be a counter-example

asciilifeform: but folks who knew the forge from the age of five, tend to not end up kings..

asciilifeform: (and iirc he was a pretty good one)