asciilifeform: (but described in workable detail how to make, and not, e.g., davinci style)

asciilifeform: ^ but never made one

asciilifeform: (for n00bz, lilienfeld invented transistor in the '20s)

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: neato! turns out otp has its very own lilienfeld

asciilifeform: 'peak crypto!1111' was otp, vernam, ww1.

asciilifeform: if mircea_popescu knows differently, and can show it, historians would like to know

asciilifeform: it was not.

asciilifeform: srsly

asciilifeform: otp is ww1 state of the art.

asciilifeform: (find me ~one~ 'netsec' tard who can explain how the curves are chosen)

asciilifeform: partly that ecc systems are poorly understood and trivial to trapdoor and kleptographically diddle, very usg-friendly

asciilifeform: partly http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=23-01-2016#1382752 ☝︎

asciilifeform: thestringpuller: guess why.

asciilifeform: there are charlatans who will happily help you self-delude that it has been done, however.

asciilifeform: now one could try to prove that extracting this information usefully is computationally intractable. but this is never been publicly done.

asciilifeform: in any ciphersystem ~other~ than otp, the ciphertext carries, theoretically, ~some~ information re: the key.

asciilifeform: qed.

asciilifeform: if i tell you that X xor Y == 1, you cannot infer X and Y, only that one is 1 and other is 0

asciilifeform: given as it literally equals key xor plaintext.

asciilifeform: (the otp proof is kindergarten-level - the ciphertext tells you nothing at all - as in 0 bits - about the key or the plaintext)

asciilifeform: (if it had, it is a very well-kept secret, better kept than, e.g., nuke etc)

asciilifeform: afaik no effort to produce another has ever yielded anything.

asciilifeform: otp.

asciilifeform: the major boojum re: asking for (as i asked for) a cipher that has an actual mathematical proof of security, is that there is precisely one such known,

asciilifeform: to briefly return to the cipher thread,

asciilifeform: bonus, the carriage never gets cold...

asciilifeform: which puts you right where you probably wanted to be.

asciilifeform: this output would correspond to ~ 1-3 horses.

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: a tonne or two

asciilifeform: catch is, you will have to smuggle it out of kamchatka by rowboat

asciilifeform: for phreeeeee!

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: you can get a 1-3kW rtg

asciilifeform: and the eternal, unrusting ferrari on the 100 year track, slowly creeping.

asciilifeform: find me this candle.

asciilifeform: which turns into a mathematically plausible but physically-ludicrous discussion akin to 'candle burning for 100 years will move a ferrari 1km forward'

asciilifeform: (and, as per earlier thread, unemployment)

asciilifeform: in which case you get the ridiculous american number of 30. which assumes an ideal spherical horse of an empire where the chump actually keeps getting that 100k for 30 years, and it isn't eaten away at by spiraling costs of fuel, food, medical, etc.

asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-02-2016#1398011 << closer to 10. ~unless~ you use my magic formula and compute using ~the money you have left over to actually pay for the thing~ ☝︎

asciilifeform: the oasis may be crowded and full of shit but is still oasis

asciilifeform: not so much 'cool' as 'one of the only few things that there were'

asciilifeform: what, word 'block' does not even exist for these folk outside of bitcoin terminology ?

asciilifeform: from where?

asciilifeform: now what i don't grasp is how the bitcoin block size thing wormed its way into that thread

asciilifeform: http://www.loper-os.org/?p=1323 << obligatory re: 'aes is certified'

asciilifeform: but perhaps this is not quite what mircea_popescu had in mind

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i saw the 'multicore' fad as more or less equivalent to a public proclamation of 'moore's law is dead'

asciilifeform: we could really use one

asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-02-2016#1398004 << this is glorious, can we get the knowing-things fella in here somehow ? ☝︎

asciilifeform: which - mega-unsurprise - never materialized

asciilifeform: what there ~was~ is some vague 'hope of comeback' from magical wunderwaffen fabrication tech

asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-02-2016#1397992 << mno, it was quite readily dead in '07 and iirc apparent to most literate folk ☝︎

asciilifeform: there is NEVER any shortage of folks who will do $work for $maxint. they will fly down from mars if you pay enough.

asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-02-2016#1397985 << there is an eternal unmet demand of folks who will do $work for ~$free. hence indians imported, etc. ☝︎

asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-02-2016#1397983 << actually in anglo world it is routine for a prisoner to be held incommunicado. handy publication ban of whatever you like. ☝︎

asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-02-2016#1397955 << thread was about gpu. do you understand what gpu is and is for ? ☝︎

asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-02-2016#1397943 << house costs 10M ?! ☝︎

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: not so much 'wrong' as have obvious engineering limits. just as the west has own, aha

asciilifeform: 'why did 33 crores (330M) of gods never cough up a flush toilet?' -- uncle al

asciilifeform: l0l reads sorta like an actual mentally defective human doesnnit

asciilifeform: spam.

asciilifeform: (it doesn't go straight on the cpu, no, will crack the mb and drown in condensation. it goes in the tank through which you pump the oil.)

asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-02-2016#1397780 << straight to your local welding shop, pete_d_out, and fill up yer dewar with ln2, this is an ancient recipe ☝︎

asciilifeform: took a giant leap forward with the extinction of the intelligent, discerning game consumer

asciilifeform: and continued.

asciilifeform: this began in '90s with the appearance of cdrom

asciilifeform: probably. but nobody cancelled speed of light.

asciilifeform: not dark age.

asciilifeform: when i say dos, i mean '90s dos.

asciilifeform: 'you have died of death, please play again'

asciilifeform: fortunately there are more wonderful dos titles than i have expected life left

asciilifeform: game began and ended with msdos for me

asciilifeform: iirc that's a '80s-style 2d arcade thing

asciilifeform: idk i saw a perfectly fine 'doom' running on ipad

asciilifeform: not 100ms later

asciilifeform: ~in real time~

asciilifeform: it has no purpose (when used as prescribed) aside from throwing pixels on a screen in real time

asciilifeform: no but think. whole point of gpu is acceleration

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: which kind of gaming a) uses gpu silicon b) tolerates 100ms+ wire delay ?

asciilifeform: in not entirely unrelated news, old-stock opteron cpus are being sold in crates of 1,000+, for ~1-2 usd/ea. in qty.

asciilifeform: and b) would put amd on the leading edge of advanced usgtronics of the Fyootoor, at last

asciilifeform: idden

asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-02-2016#1397765 << if you crunch the simple arithmetic re: propagation delays, it reveals that one of two things: a) whole thing is a scam, not actually intended to happen in physical reality b) collectivized, 'kolhoz' of gaming processor will be installed on street corner router cabinets, one per 100 houses or so, this will go great with ownership of actual computer being Officially forb ☝︎

asciilifeform: guten morgen mircea_popescu

asciilifeform: being on the interchangeable-part end of fungibility sucks, newz at 11

asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-02-2016#1397760 << work in moar webdev, aha ☝︎☟︎

asciilifeform: then useless

asciilifeform: where you end up with the keyboard parallel to and behind the screen

asciilifeform: nono, the other way

asciilifeform: or was it one of those things that folds 180 degree

asciilifeform: mega-unbalance

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: ick

asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-02-2016#1397741 << to the extent that this is an actual thing, it is an ancient plague, e.g., http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=03-08-2015#1223259 , http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=04-08-2015#1223627 ☝︎☝︎☝︎

asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-02-2016#1397712 << holy FUCK what a steaming crock of shit. where does punkman find these ? ☝︎☟︎

asciilifeform: (the correct orientation for a programmer's display is vertical.)

asciilifeform: and go and try turning it into vertical orientation, looks like shit soup

asciilifeform: pixels the size of gridpaper squares.

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: a fella i know installed one on his desk instead of a proper monitor. looks - imho - like shit

asciilifeform: i never looked into what his entropy source is. if it's a prng, straight to hell. ☟︎☟︎

asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-02-2016#1397698 << templeos comes with a 'talk to god' terminal. ☝︎

asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-02-2016#1397693 << the secret gag is that the 4k refers to... usd. it must. ☝︎