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r0nin-: they lost them all
r0nin-: they didnt eat their farms
mircea_popescu: that's 1800s. throughout, everywhere, including the self-same romans understand this.
mircea_popescu: and the undersranding of this being what it is, is universal. flaubert has piece explaining how dr bovary sucked at farming because he ate his farm.
r0nin-: interest continues no matter the productive capacity of the farm
mircea_popescu: they started eating their chickens. living above means.
mircea_popescu: understand something : a new chicken is born on a farm. this chicken grows into either capital good or else consumption. THE SAME chicken.
r0nin-: deflation kills off consumption so you get a situation where theres literally no market to sell your produce in
r0nin-: what happened was all the $ went into so few hands you had deflation everywhere
mircea_popescu: by eating the capital.
mircea_popescu: much exactly like the history of the us, except stretched over 3x the time.
mircea_popescu: early soldier cultivated it and built a civilisation. late soldier attempted to live above his means to justify socially his internal ineptitude.
r0nin-: the soldiers werent around they were out battling
mircea_popescu: no, i've got the facts and you've got teh mantras.
mircea_popescu: wealth concentrated in latifundias to protect itself from the inept mismanagement of soldiers who had become welfare cases over a century since marian's obamacare.
r0nin-: youve got it the opposite, overtime compounding outstrips the economies ability to generate surplus
r0nin-: soldiers lost all their farms due to compounding
shinohai: Oh mircea_popescu , you forgot to tell me that (x) altcoin was going TO TEH MOON
mircea_popescu: capital failing situation is eg, enemy bombardment. then capital fails, then you protect labour.
r0nin-: yes compound interest once again overwhelmhed the economies ability to keep up
mircea_popescu: the signal how is their fucking problem.
r0nin-: the fucker upper was the bondholder
mircea_popescu: let them fucking figure out how. i just give out the signal if.
mircea_popescu: i don't care how. this isn't explainy hour. the cooperation of the fucker-upper is neither sought nor required.
r0nin-: mircea: why should everyone be impoverished so a few misers can stare at their shitty bonds?
r0nin-: government created trillions in new fiat to bail out financial sector and then they told everyone they have to accept 90% wage reductions
mircea_popescu: r0nin- ayup. and it is the correct move if you'ere not willing to actually beat the fuckers.
r0nin-: drive wages to as close to zero as possible
r0nin-: austerity was to remove all $ from economy to protect bondholders
ben_vulpes: greek thing, i guess.
ben_vulpes: wasn't that the premise of 'austerity'?
mircea_popescu: wtf is this "We'll solve the problems for them". no, bitch. we think the unemployment among X group is too high, that group gets beaten until it fixes it!
mircea_popescu: tell them, too. it;'s either unemploymenty under 2% or beatings for a week straight each month.
mircea_popescu: nobody goes "oh fuck, unemployment among < 25 yos is 50% ? hahaha! pick up all kids, beat them for a week solid, then see."
r0nin-: rome is worth it for them alone
mircea_popescu: and why should they! human rights! living wage! no rape!
mircea_popescu: or to anything, really. they'll reddit, that's about it.
r0nin-: new gen doesnt want to apprentice
mircea_popescu: back then the italians knew hunger.
r0nin-: italian tailors are all dieing off
mircea_popescu: tell you what though : in the 70s everyone was getting his hjookers in italy, from visconti to the swiss.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yes, in the 70s. it ain't the 70s anymore.
mircea_popescu: r0nin- i guess. anyone's entitled to his own favoritas.
r0nin-: Rome is on the map becuase of caraceni ☟︎
mircea_popescu: anyway, rome is not really on the map for the sartorial gentleman. and the only thing that puts italy on the map is marcha, go pick a few pairs of shoes.
asciilifeform: vinylon is the good synthetic
mod6: Damn heat + humidity up here is starting to get annoying everyday.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform shocking how many buyers tolerate the synthetics these days.
asciilifeform: northkr could make a tourist killing, offer tailored vinylon suits
mircea_popescu: oh, yeah, that suit's dead by now. but it served well in the heat.
r0nin-: linen is a 1 wear though before it needs a press from the wrinkles
r0nin-: Rome 3k euro for anyone that knows what they are doing
mircea_popescu: 4-5k for the tickets + 4-5k for the hotel + 4-5k for the whores + 4.5k for the suits = 20k and you've a bunch of stories to tell.
mircea_popescu: but yes, tailoring tourism fits well with argentina. land, go straight to tailor, have measures taken, go to exedra or w/e pick up a coupla hookers, come back a week later pick up your half dozen suits and jump into plane.
r0nin-: well its a very good price compared to europe
mircea_popescu: r0nin- not terrible. old jew, knows his trade. anyway fabric varies wildly, this was a light linen thing. they'll make it out of anything, including bring-your-own
mircea_popescu: i paid for the fabric when i ordered it.
r0nin-: how they doing that? fabric is like $100 a meter
r0nin-: whats a decent suit go for there anyway in argentina?
r0nin-: ive got tailoring recommendations this time
mircea_popescu: r0nin- don't tell me you got fresh reading recommendations ?
mircea_popescu: kinda the purpose of this.
a111: Logged on 2017-08-22 15:26 asciilifeform: valentinbuza: also recommend to read the mircea_popescu's intro, in the chan greetingline
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-22#1701918 << actually, either of you two could make a logotron. it's a fine learning exercise. make it in lisp ; make it in v ; use whatever you're trying to learn. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-08-17 20:30 asciilifeform: but in very other olds, apparently in an obscure article in '09 bernstein shows how to eliminate one of the middle-term additions of karatsuba .
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: unfortunately the 'mega productivity boost' dun work for maths. asciilifeform goes through many kg of laser print paper each mo.
a111: Logged on 2017-08-22 15:18 valentinbuza: "to improve their experience." leads to "Which top sites are users visiting?" :))
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-22#1701914 << lolz, "how about we put an alexa toolbar into the very browser ?!?!?! got knows we meanwhile managed to import all the other spamshits from the 90s!". https://verkoren.files.wordpress.com/2013/05/and-the-award-for-most-spam-toolbars-installed-in-your-ie-browser-goes-to.jpg ☝︎
asciilifeform: must be for the 'i'ma boot up my aol station, check aol, and switch off 10 min later' people.
a111: Logged on 2017-08-22 15:16 asciilifeform: ( firefox is the one that has the added 'feature' of eating GBs of ram for no reason )
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-22#1701913 <<< it's not just that. firefox rendering engine has been forever broken, since version 5 or so. i dunno what version they're at by now, 60 or 160 or w/e, but they never actyually got the manpower together to fix the problem. which problem is -- not memory stable!!! most gfx pages will eat up firefox memory at linear rate over time. which means that the browser will always crash, no m ☝︎
mircea_popescu: otherwise, stays child / vaguely transitions into cvasi-girl over time.
mircea_popescu: man who uses computer to do work never fails to discover this. the only thing is that most children start their intellectual life using computers for entertainment (which is entirely natural) and the transition happens naturally only if child is exposed to environment that permits manhood.
mircea_popescu: all these together add up to triple digit productivity gains.
mircea_popescu: and finally of course there's the important 3. pages that fail to work through this process are very rarely worth reading, you basically gain an entry filter more valuable than readily intuited.
mircea_popescu: 2. eye trying to orient in the "user friendly" graphical bloat is an incomprehensibly huge wastage of bioresources.
a111: Logged on 2017-08-22 16:54 mircea_popescu: hmm, not putting it in topic, putting it in http://trilema.com/2016/how-to-participate-in-the-affairs-of-the-most-serene-republic/ once i get that thing online again.
mod6: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-22#1702072 << ok awesome! will do a regular round-up to make sure it stays up-to-date. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: 1. because every fucking half second a page takes to load has an immense cost, in that you SWITCH. very much a case of http://archive.is/wkeMJ#selection-209.572-209.641
mircea_popescu: it may seem offputting at first, "where's my rounded corners" reaction. then if you stick with it for a few weeks you might discover the IMMENSE productivity gains of text-only.
a111: Logged on 2017-08-22 15:15 valentinbuza: gave up chrome long time ago for firefox (with noscript + self destructing cookies). now I should start looking for alternatives.
mircea_popescu: one of the rare cases where sheer discipline carried the day.
mircea_popescu: he'd go consult with mp with a list of questions, and MEMORIZE the fucking answers.
mircea_popescu: dude was fascinating though. completely inept linguistically, entirely uncultivated (no highschool degree). undeterred.
a111: Logged on 2017-08-22 16:59 mircea_popescu: the point is not without merit, though. ~all the competent, at artisan level, males, the dudes working leather and metal and wood and whatnot ~competently~ are virtually all 50 yo doods with very much a slave mentality.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-22#1702083 << this is entirely true : carpenter is not free to ~negotiate with the task~, only with the wood. now for engineer, you also need a built-in ~master~ in yer head, aka ' царь в голове '. but at no point does unconstrained amoeba brain become a craftsman or engineer. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: that was more the internal protection thing.
asciilifeform recalls the siguranța agent in ye olde #ba
mircea_popescu: it was decent and no more back when the principal target was the german kingdom. same exact evolution in tito's aglutination, actually.
mircea_popescu: but romania ended up with a competent secret service mostly through infiltrating kgb, not through competition with the deeply inept burgeoises.
mircea_popescu: it was a case of "the inept management died, and the bright kids republiced in their absence". blasted through everything.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the actual reason, i am persuaded, is that the formerly VERY competitive, fragmented talent finally pooled starting mid 1989 and ending six months later.
mircea_popescu: amusingly enough, the fear of one generation became the reality of the next. funny how it never worked that way re nuke ; but did work that way re craft.
asciilifeform: sorta the main diff b/w 'terrorist' cells org, and usg-style org, neh. the latter in fact has a 'crown jewels list-of-every' somewhere in it.
a111: Logged on 2017-08-22 14:37 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-22#1701790 << would be interesting to read moar re this
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-22#1701905 << the skinning of the cat costs in excess of the pelt. suffice it to say that there's a reason all 80s "Spy films" are about how "there's a list of EVERY AGENT and the soviets MIGHT get it" bla bla dramas. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: the point is not without merit, though. ~all the competent, at artisan level, males, the dudes working leather and metal and wood and whatnot ~competently~ are virtually all 50 yo doods with very much a slave mentality. ☟︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: well, the noobies, but briefly.
mircea_popescu: nobody's chained to the place!
mircea_popescu: she's a slavegirl here ; otherwise luvs torturing bois in her free time.