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trinque: I'm connected
to it myself from elsewhere, but who knows what's going on.
mircea_popescu: mod6 same here, may be
too short sampling etc. will update
tonight.
mod6: Basically, operators are responsible for keeping
the nodes going.
mod6: Occasionally when I'm
trying
to do a
test or some such
thing.
mod6: fwiw, I almost never connect
to
these myself.
mod6: Attention rest of
the node operators: Can you vouch for your node being online? Ideally, it should have 95% or better uptime.
trinque: mircea_popescu: can't connect
to deedbot's node eh?
mod6: And as far as I know,
that one is re-syncing.
☟︎ a111: Logged on 2017-08-05 22:43 mod6: <+asciilifeform> zoolag live as of now at ye olde 108.31.170.49 . <<
thanks for
the update.
mod6: mircea_popescu: hey! cool.
thanks for adding
that in
there. lemme look
those IPs up quick.
mircea_popescu: ftr, only a coupla of
those five actually work. i can connect
to 46.166.165.30 regularly but can not connect
to eg 108.31.170.49
☟︎ mircea_popescu: o and what a nice header day it is,
too. or should i say moon.
mircea_popescu: except of course wife wants house
to lay eggs into because "all
the other girls arew doing it"
BingoBoingo: <r0nin->
theres no such
thing as an economy without credit <<
There is no obligation
to
take on credit, or keep "revolving" credit accounts
mircea_popescu: somehow
the participants manage
to insulate
themselves from
these obviously very
toxic facts
mircea_popescu: which, amusingly, makes
the jesus pantsuits ACTUALLY MORE PROGRESSIVE
than
the new yorker crowd.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: and in other lulz, speaking of catholic latinas etc :
the dispute between "progressives" and "christian fundamentalists" never ceases
to amaze me. here you have
two pantsuit groups which both agree with
the fundamental pantsuit "every sperm is sacred".
their disagreement is re when "every sperm is sacred" starts :
the jesus pantsuit
thinks it's at age -9 months ;
the progre pantsuit
thinks it's at - something, not quite 9 mon
☟︎ a111: Logged on 2017-08-22 18:53 mircea_popescu: you should see
the latina chicks btw.
they're all in school-mandated, half-thigh pleated skirts and whatnot, different colors. it's a whole level of japan over here.
mircea_popescu: you should see
the latina chicks btw.
they're all in school-mandated, half-thigh pleated skirts and whatnot, different colors. it's a whole level of japan over here.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: rain. whole country runs as an advertising firm, "keep 'em
talking about what color highschool uniforms should be, as long as
they do
they've already accepted
they'll wear fucking pantsuits
to school like retards".
a111: Logged on 2017-08-22 16:04 spyked: loaded (because I don't use
this day-to-day), I must consult
these items in great detail. my guess here is
that once I have spent all
the
time
to learn,
the "framework" becomes useless, because
the mental framework is in place.
mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-22#1701966 << more importantly, and more subtly, it sells you on
the notion
that "dh is a prerequisite for handshakes", which happens
to be false. for one
thing, you can shake a friend's hand without
the usg being involved. for another, gossipd does not use dh for handshake. in short,
the usgtardian nonsense is always
there
to distract you while it implants simpler points deep into
the reptile b
☝︎ mircea_popescu: and in other life and
times, i have a
table out on a balcony overlooking
the valley where i oft have breakfast. a week or so ago it gained a little wolf spider, he hunts on it. he's
there every morning, and if i sit down
to eat he leaves
to hide in a crevice somewhere while
the disturbance lasts.
a111: Logged on 2016-12-16 06:24
trinque: in other python 2 was already shit... all([]) ->
True yet any([]) -> False
mircea_popescu: now consider
the by now famous
http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-16#1583902 and understand
that
the negative case WILL get
the brightest minds. not once or
twice, it's perfecrtly capable of getting you again and again and
this doesn'rt even speak
to how smart you are. how inexperienced at best, in
terms of "not yet wounded by practical experience enough
to systematically reject
the null case".
☝︎ mircea_popescu: the items are DANGEROUS, specifically because
they exploit a fundamental weakness of
the human brain.
they're like guns
to dodos, unperceived, deadly.
mircea_popescu: the point re
thompson's compiler is easily misunderstood, in
the sense of being conceptualized
too narrowly.
that unwarranted narrowness
then permits you
to handwave his objection re null ciphers in
the actual
technical discussion ; but look how you fell for an obfuscated null cipher yourself right here!
mircea_popescu: i want
to
take
the
time here and delve upon
the recursion for your benefit.
a111: Logged on 2017-08-22 15:57 valentinbuza: probably. but i
think
that your argument is invalid because you say
that "in
TLS ingredients suck and recipe sucks" and "in Noise ingredients suck
therefore
the recipe also sucks"
mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-22#1701957 << no, his objection actually is "tls ingredient sucks and recipe sucks whereas noise is not a recipe and it doesn't have ingredients". he is correclty rejecting what, contrary
to elaborately crafted appearance, is a null cipher.
☝︎ a111: Logged on 2017-08-22 15:47 asciilifeform: a 'standard'
that consists of 'go and implement whatever you like' is not a standard in any meaningful sense.
mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-22#1701949 << very much a standard in
the proper sense. standard should specify what must be specified, and NOT specifiy what needn't be specified. which is why all
tmsr standards, or at least
the ones i wrote, have
this very prominent characteristic. "do it whichever way you do it". connects straight up with ye olde specificity of diddling.
☝︎ mircea_popescu: girl notices she dun have
tits, is "ironic" about it ;
that dun help, she's "ironic" about it not working, becomes janine garofalo. PROBLEM SOLVED! and if not solved, can always be ironic about being janine garofalo.
a111: Logged on 2017-08-22 15:40 valentinbuza: as you can see on
the spec, it is not concerned with PKI or your authentication methods, it's up
to you
mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-22#1701941 <<
the dispute you ended up in is due
to
the fact
that he recognizes a pattern you do not. whether you will come
to recognize it in
time or not is an open matter, and not required for
the discussion.
the point is,
the way
the empire resolves
the problem of practical failure (tls is a piece of shit ; socialism is risible bullshit) is
to
take refuge in meta (here's a
tls-framework! let'
☝︎ a111: Logged on 2017-08-22 15:34 valentinbuza: don't know. ask
Trevor Perrin, maybe he
thought of creating all
the possible recipes
mircea_popescu: (no, i don't just mean reddit pick-up artistry. anglican church same exact
thing.)
mircea_popescu: some kids who couldn't get laid got
together and created... a framework for... other people getting laid.
a111: Logged on 2017-08-22 15:31 valentinbuza: noise is a framework for creating protocols. you have
the option
to create NOISE_NULL_CIPHER_TOTAL_BS protocol which is
totally different from NOISE_ANOTHER_SANE_CHOICE
mircea_popescu: wtf is with
this nonsensical "now i will repeat debunked nonsense insistently!" mode.
r0nin-: becuase as i said if you
take 2 100 bills and put
them in a shelf
they dont produce children.
r0nin-: interest rates are a abstract
they can be whatever
mircea_popescu: reduction in spending slows down
the growth of
the bezzle.
mircea_popescu: that's
the fucking problem.
the bezzle rate = difference between real and nominal growth.
mircea_popescu: summer ends, girls come back
to school, some with
tits.
the ones without -- discover socialism.
that first week in september.
r0nin-: and
told
the rest of
the economy
they have
to massively shrink and somehow still pay
r0nin-: government came in and created
trillions of fiat
to bail out bondholders
mircea_popescu: socialism is 100% a 12yo girl noticing
the other girl has
tits and she doesn't.
that's where socialism is born, in
the 7th grade class.
r0nin-: no economy can keep up with
the power of compounding
mircea_popescu: mno. socialism comes about as
the young failure discovers other kids can in fact morph into adults.
r0nin-: its
the pus
that forms when
the body politic is sick of capitalism
r0nin-: socialism comes about as a reaction
to deflation brought about by compounding
mircea_popescu: r0nin- not all of
them speak of it ; all hate it like you do.
mircea_popescu: that's why socialists hate interest so much : because it is
the prick
that deflates
the nominalist balloons into
the reality shapes subiacent.
mircea_popescu: and IT EXISTS so as
to bring
the names in coupling with reality.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform no but in
the country where "everyone agreed" not
to save,
then savings depressing rate is a myth. much like in class where "the class community" has agreed not
to do any homework,
the punishment for missing homework is a myth.
r0nin-: theres no such
thing as an economy without credit
r0nin-: how many
times does
that myth have
to be
told
mircea_popescu: because why, because i gotta spend money i don't have on suits i can't afford
to impress r0nin- ?
mircea_popescu: and if
the rates are high, i increase savings and push
the rates down.
r0nin-: no your egg sale goes
to interest payments
mircea_popescu: and keep doing
this until
the economy is
too flush with savings
to keep
the rates high.
mircea_popescu: r0nin- farm doesn't HAVE
to increase output. if
the sconto rate is
too high, i will simply sell an extra egg and invest.
mircea_popescu: your usury
thing is not unlike linking organized crime with belt buckles. because belt buckles present at all shootings! and made of
tin-copper alloy!
r0nin-: rome had interest rates from 7-20%, made it impossible for farms
to keep increasing output
r0nin-: every single one of
those examples is riddled with usury
mircea_popescu: happened
to rome, happened
to paris, happened
to london.
trinque: god if only
the rentiers would give back our precious appstore wealth
mircea_popescu: in a dozen or so cycles, france goes from main country in
the world
to footnote in geographical area.
r0nin-: all output was
taken by rentiers
mircea_popescu: then guillotine brings in a new normal in
terms of social proofs, which allows
the cycle
to start over.
mircea_popescu: living above means -> economic failure -> ra ra socialism -> guillotine.
that's how
the engine works.
r0nin-: if you have 100% private debt
to gdp, and 3% interest, even if you economy expands at 3% all
the gains go
to interest
mircea_popescu: no,
they ate
their farms. exactly as how 1600s frenchmen ate
their farms, became "french republic" because
too poor
to continue kingdom.
mircea_popescu: which is why
they had
the office of
the censor, and which is why it was illegal for
the womenz
to wear expensive
textiles, and so on.