asciilifeform: jurov: they are usually unreleased for ~reason~

asciilifeform: phf: only for frontend

asciilifeform: jurov: my unreleased prototype is driven using (local) irc listener, yes ☟︎

asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu i was looking at generalizing the 'oracle' resistance from cramer-shoup to other systems

asciilifeform: aha

asciilifeform: should it also massage the wife for you ?

asciilifeform: or what, you want it to reload itself somehow ?

asciilifeform: wai wut

asciilifeform: can config with bare teeth

asciilifeform: nobody forces you to use it

asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: say moar ?

asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: tried? it broke ?

asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: so set light terminal ? or dark text editor ??

asciilifeform: wtf, what light mode, it's a tty proggy

asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: try 'irssi'

asciilifeform: who works for usg is public record

asciilifeform: also what part of this is seeekrit

asciilifeform: ty ben_vulpes

asciilifeform: we feed google now ?

asciilifeform: and srsly what's with this habit of linkless quote

asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-02-2016#1400906 << where wut ☝︎

asciilifeform: and thought stuck cock

asciilifeform: ungrounded ?

asciilifeform: boat?!

asciilifeform: waiwut

asciilifeform: ... or wife

asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: poppycock, everybuddy knows wagon don't move 'less an-'orse move't.

asciilifeform generally doesn't leave home if it can be at all helped

asciilifeform: l0l

asciilifeform: visit what

asciilifeform: i very much believe mircea_popescu .

asciilifeform: ty jurov

asciilifeform: ergo is wrong.

asciilifeform: without db locks patch at the least

asciilifeform: and in fact it is wrong, because guess what, that turd WON'T SYNC

asciilifeform: had irc.cpp ?

asciilifeform: surely that was not the last release ?

asciilifeform: borrowing a page from mircea_popescu's 'this is WRONG now find a non-WRONG thing to do' book.

asciilifeform: which is ancient crudcoin

asciilifeform: jurov: all i said what what it must ~not~ show

asciilifeform: where? antarctica ? ☟︎

asciilifeform: but this - no

asciilifeform: saw female bulldozer, crane operators,

asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-02-2016#1400478 << i will admit that i am not certain i have ever met in the flesh, other than chetty, a woman who wrote software ☝︎

asciilifeform: d - extended!111

asciilifeform: 'c' is for ansi standard police broomstick

asciilifeform: i thought we were thinking specifically of the 6 'd'

asciilifeform: phf: aha

asciilifeform: and wtf, i don't read with these, would happily buy even red led

asciilifeform: 1/5th the brightness of the diode

asciilifeform: i have both kinds, from same maker, the krypton incandescent one is a club now

asciilifeform: perfectly usable white here.

asciilifeform: they use white led here

asciilifeform: uv?!

asciilifeform: you can easily bludgeon a man, or break a door, with such

asciilifeform: 'tis what they had at the shop.

asciilifeform: now that i think about it, i even own one of those cast iron monsters

asciilifeform: holy shit wut

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: why???

asciilifeform: srsly, trees as 1liners, l0l

asciilifeform: holy shit is mircea_popescu's example hard to read

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: wtf are those

asciilifeform: but did not make its way into the prototype

asciilifeform: i will also note that all of this was part of my original concept for vtron

asciilifeform: it lets folks actually press a release, for example, without requiring 'papal infallibility' for the release signers; and, likewise importantly, it lets developer press 'i want a thing will all of my shit but not the discarded erroneous crud'

asciilifeform: the 'longest chain sans orphans having sigs S1,S2...Sx' is quite essential.

asciilifeform: punkman has it, rather.

asciilifeform: punkman: has it

asciilifeform: with a|b|c

asciilifeform: nope

asciilifeform: don't want it? don't ask for c

asciilifeform: what's the problem ?

asciilifeform: c has 'longest chain with c'

asciilifeform: tie - is to be broken by the operator. always.

asciilifeform: if i understand correctly

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: trivial case of tie

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: what means slash ?

asciilifeform: if not barfs, then broken vtron.

asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-02-2016#1400452 << this is invalid format and ought to barf ☝︎

asciilifeform: let's use the term.

asciilifeform: aha.

asciilifeform: then c is 'latest'.

asciilifeform: it is about a->b->c and we don't yet have a d.

asciilifeform: it isn't about time!

asciilifeform: again, latest means last-known.

asciilifeform: this is, after all, what i do when developing.

asciilifeform: i would say that it is meaningful to 'press latest known unorphaned chain signed by x'

asciilifeform: nor is it clear that it is a useful thing to do

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: there is 'longest chain' but none of the current vtrons know how to find it

asciilifeform: current being the last pressable, strictly

asciilifeform: this is not permissible in a strict tree, definitionally

asciilifeform: e.g., i can submit a patch which depends only on genesis, and it will be among the current leaves

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: specifically in that it does not have uniform levels

asciilifeform: but note, this is not strictly speaking a tree

asciilifeform: aha

asciilifeform: only if the tree were specially drawn this way

asciilifeform: but this is not what level normally means when looking at a DAG.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: in that case yes.

asciilifeform: likewise, they must not attempt to transform X' and disparate X'' into a Y

asciilifeform: *disparate