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williamdunne: Ah okay, not what I was hearing about. Still interested tho so give me a sec to read-up again on it
livegnik: http://identifi.org is our not-up-to-date website. The proto-type of what a front end *could* look like can be found on http://identi.fi/. The proto-type of the back-end can be found here: https://github.com/identifi/identifi
mircea_popescu: #b-a is eternal.
mircea_popescu: in the same sense there's a shitton of gold.
assbot: Why "representative democracy" doesn't work and doesn't make sense on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1H8EopW )
mircea_popescu: essentially the position of the Catholic church, hoping that it may teach people to read and write in such a way that they'll actually continue to take the "Holy Scripture" seriously. Why would they ? They won't, they don't, it's just not how that works.
mircea_popescu: This would also be why I don't think so very much of the libertards, and why I find myself so often in contradiction with people who view them as either powerful or in any sense a threat (usually both) : they aren't, either, nor could they really be, either, because the only tool they know actually works for them only a short distance of its run, and for us the entire length of that same run. The libertard's gambit is ☟︎
assbot: Why "representative democracy" doesn't work and doesn't make sense on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1H8EjCO )
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-05-2015#1127123 << probably a good place to hook that old http://trilema.com/2015/why-representative-democracy-doesnt-work-and-doesnt-make-sense/ or specifically ☝︎
mircea_popescu: save a few acres, make yourself a cup of tea.
mircea_popescu: le less than a Joule-cent. well done... who cares ?
mircea_popescu: consider the following math : uranium reserves, about 6*10^9 kgs. about 0.1% of this is usable for the purpose. uranium molar mass is ~250 [grams/mol] which means ~ 6*10^9 * 1000/250 * 6*10^23 atoms in total. meanwhile energy output is ~200 MeV per event. your total ideal available energy is thus ~1.44 * 10^32 eV. meanwhile land surface is ~1.50 * 10 ^ 14 sqm. So you get a total of ~10*17 eV per square meter, or a litt
mircea_popescu: contrary to what is generally propagandized, there isn't a way to use them effectually on the field. the only effectual use for them is in mass media.
mircea_popescu: just make a power and internet hook=up so that each tile can in principle power/be powered by and connect/be connected by each of its 4 neighbours.
mircea_popescu: you cant just print scrip because you got a scrip printer. that's not how it works.
mircea_popescu: be it conquer the south or the moon, but a mission, see. something interesting to do.
mircea_popescu: just like the us was a thing back when that guy they shot had a mission
mircea_popescu: just like you can be the life of the party and command everyone's attention for as long as you're being riveting ; just as long as you can tell women to suck your cock for just as long as it's a juicy cock to suck.
danielpbarron: there's a guy from seals that brings his own custom made table
trinque: danielpbarron: heh! that's a much better reason
chetty: good idea, we have changed the version so you will be needing a new cs
mircea_popescu: bonus lulz : dulce the leche is a thing.
mircea_popescu: and there WILL be a juicy event to reward the patience and help people set up themselves. so.
mircea_popescu: by now it's mostly "shit, another bug. no, wait a minute, this is the right thing."
jurov: "Moving to a situation in which Windows is a constantly updated service will break out of this cycle, and let Microsoft tinker more with the software to test new features and see how customers like them"
mircea_popescu: in other news, i just laid a claim on a SIZABLE deposit of wooly mushroom in eulora.
decimation: jurov: yes, that article is related. hopefully someone will figure out a model
assbot: That scary thing on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1E0UOfB )
decimation: does this mean that pure capitalism tends to fragile oligarchy while government direction of the economy leads to a greater diversity of economic practices?
decimation: yeah, there is something to that. it does seem like pure market competition will lead to monopoly, and it takes a sovereign to say 'do it this way or hang'
decimation: jurov: do you run the standard aws linux distro or do you have a fully custom image?
decimation: apparently they are too poor to pay that, and nobody else gave a fuck
jurov: decimation: but you see money is not a problem here?
decimation: asciilifeform: perhaps part of your problem (re: make ur own fab) is that you are attempting to 'speak with a sword'
decimation: someone beggin' for a kick?
mircea_popescu: and not a bad one atthat
decimation: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-05-2015#1127250 < I remember watching some derpy 'global warming gonna kill us by 2000' documentary as a kid in the 80's. I remember feeling cognitive dissonance when I looked outside and saw that the weather was fine ☝︎
jurov: there was a fab "tesla piestany" in czechoslovakia able to make 8080 or uart clones
asciilifeform out to meatspace for a spell
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i will take your word for this. now unsheath your magic wand and summon a couple of devils to unfrag bitcoind
asciilifeform: so far, i've reached a possibly surprising conclusion - it is -time-
asciilifeform: now disperse a chip fab.
mircea_popescu: nukes are, in this discussion, theatrical props. we need them like i need a prince albert.
mircea_popescu: a pika can do this
asciilifeform: i snort a good bit of food, house.
asciilifeform: nobody's about to pour and slice a Si boule as volunteer.
mircea_popescu: yeah at the time. she needed a house.
asciilifeform: it costs $1B because there are six people who can honcho a fab
asciilifeform: the 'fab costs $1B' is merely a -symptom- of the real problem
mircea_popescu: and moreover, once la serenissima expands - A LITTLE (in comparative tersm) - what's to say it won't be able to afford this ?
mircea_popescu: so then... what exactly does a fab cost ?
mircea_popescu: so, what's a fab cost ? like 10bn or so, say ? less, but anyway. what's the current print rate ? 10x that A MONTH or so ? at least as far as documented (most monetary expansion happens in the dark anyway, it was recently rechristened as "big bank fraud" temporarily, but it is not nor ever was that - most monetary expansion is regulated by the banks)
assbot: Logged on 10-05-2015 17:35:26; asciilifeform: just the 'palace economy' you inherently get, from a chip fab costing what it costs
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-05-2015#1127075 << let us examine this claim. it is a claim worth examining. ☝︎
ben_vulpes goes for a walk
davout: jurov: actually, for some reason it doesn't like being run in a screen session
Azelphur: (07:31:47) mircea_popescu: !rate azelphur 1 Not seen for a while now.
mircea_popescu: jurov i see a trickle ?
mircea_popescu: like a sort of nonviolence proponent that takes it up the pooper.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-05-2015#1126996 << you must live in a world very different than mine, where time's not linear or something. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: meanwhile, have a gifoji for the word "fuck". http://38.media.tumblr.com/7c08fc20b88baf11e2554f1a4a94d346/tumblr_myakvhGPdA1s9nnudo1_400.gif
hanbot: danielpbarron: wtf is a "porcupine freedom festival"?!
mircea_popescu: if you care about anthropology, it's a great thing to watch, how the beast acquires skills. that was the major breakthrough there.
mircea_popescu: course, it's how that country is run, it's how the derps "in charge" got into office, it's the only thing they're tooled to do, and so to the man carrying a bad graph and some banal word tricks...
mircea_popescu: why the fuck do they think addressing themselves to a mathematically illiterate crowd is a valid avenue is entirely beyond my comprehension.
mircea_popescu: davout the amount of herd-herding that the usg has been putting into this is so incredibly useful because a) it really can't do anything but! b) it really does expose the tools.
davout: sure, there are going to be problems for you if the transactions keep growing linearly like that, oh wait, it's a log scale, straight lines are actually exponentials
mircea_popescu: williamdunne nigeria was originally a booming oil economy, attracted a lot of people. then it went stale, and for a while throughout the 90s there was a large community of desperate, socially marginal young men, who took to playing internet con games. eventually there was some reaction in the shape of, "con the nigerians".
assbot: Logged on 10-05-2015 18:44:48; ben_vulpes: at a certain point it'll turn into a game "hey williamdunne this is great but it's not going to fly without a photo of you with a shoe on your head"
mircea_popescu: steganography is hiding messages inside images. and a crush is when a guy wants to put his wee wee in your... well...
fluffypony: I was like "bro it's a herb, it's rocket. come now."
ben_vulpes: i think jurov has a crush
ben_vulpes: at a certain point it'll turn into a game "hey williamdunne this is great but it's not going to fly without a photo of you with a shoe on your head" ☟︎
mircea_popescu: davout hey, not my fault they know how to make a salmon and parmezan sammich.
mircea_popescu: (italian fashion, somehow teh usians got crazy over it at some point. like a self-flagellation tiramisu)
assbot: Logged on 10-05-2015 17:00:47; asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-05-2015#1126958 << it won't work, because no one has, yet, a fully static build. see logs.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-05-2015#1126991 << myeah. except the "code red" is not what bitcointalk forum derps imagine it is. the code red is, has been for the entire history and likely will remain at least for a while simpler stuff like http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-05-2015#1126993 ☝︎☝︎
fluffypony: davout: when I was in the USA I wanted to buy some for a pasta sauce I was making, took me 25 minutes at Whole Foods to figure out that they call it "arugula"
assbot: Logged on 10-05-2015 10:11:00; davout: oh and ben_vulpes, by 'real computer' I mean any non-Apple machine, that'll always be a good improvememnt :D
assbot: Logged on 10-05-2015 00:00:19; pete_dushenski: Fast fwd to yesterday. I wasn't home yet from work, but my wife tells me local LE showed up and wanted to have a "chat". Asked if I or anone had ever ordered anything illicit in the mail. Said "nobody's in trouble, we're just following up on something that might be nothing"."
mircea_popescu: davec originally thought it was libnss meanwhile found a "retarded languages should be supported too" thing
davout: and i was confused because i didn't remember that danielpbarron's pogo runs a debian thing, hence able to run bitcoind
assbot: Logged on 10-05-2015 17:00:47; asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-05-2015#1126958 << it won't work, because no one has, yet, a fully static build. see logs.
mircea_popescu: you have a fox kennel ?
assbot: 0 results for 'nobody dies for hotel' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=nobody+dies+for+hotel
asciilifeform: jurov: ultimately, survival is not a rational act, if you think about it. eating a bullet is always 'cheaper'
funkenstein_: thanks, perhaps like the saturn rocket, there will come a day when nobody knows how to build one
asciilifeform: what's the ROI on a tank? sub? nuke?
decimation: no, it always looks like a loser on a purely accounting basis
asciilifeform: because sovereignty is not a 'rational' thing
asciilifeform: and that cn, ru silicon sovereignty is a sham of the most laughable kind.
asciilifeform: dig down, and you will find that most of integrated circuit industry on planet3 ultimately lives and dies by the work of a handful of people.
asciilifeform: (much of the cost of a launch is political, largely bakshish)
asciilifeform: just the 'palace economy' you inherently get, from a chip fab costing what it costs ☟︎
asciilifeform: there is a more fundamental problem here, which i think we discussed in at least one old thread
decimation: but I agree, it would be impossible to make clock-exact version of a silicon cpu without heavy support from the manufacturer
decimation: well, run software and perform a timing analysis
decimation: if one had a working implementation of a silicon cpu (like msp430), wouldn't you be able to test the silicon version against an fpga simulator?
decimation: still, merely making an 'open fpga' would be a big improvement
asciilifeform: in -every- case, the sc4mz0rz who are willing to use 'a little bit' of usg toolchain, overwhelmingly win on cost and speed