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decimation: mircea_popescu I thought you were just making a point about "I use this thing and it works" is so 90's
mircea_popescu: "I JUST WANT THE COMPUTER TO FUCKING WORK!!!1"
mircea_popescu: if one is willing to take this tack, i wonder why one's not going the whole nine yards and throwing out the keyboard.
assbot: Logged on 05-03-2015 22:00:28; asciilifeform: i kinda wonder why poor folks are even interested in mpex (or, for that matter, schwab)
thestringpuller: i thought even windows and nt were "stolen"
decimation: yeah it was a stolen reimplemenation of cp/m as i recall
thestringpuller: i can't bring myself to hate on DOS
thestringpuller: TRON style i 'spose
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: i love old microshit tho. found a copy of 3d studio R1 from 1990, and it runs on ms dos
asciilifeform: and i think i'm the only one actually talking about it, for the most part
asciilifeform: decimation: i did not test on any closed-source compiler because they don't exist on the planet i choose to live on
asciilifeform: decimation: i tested on both available compilers, the foundation's and the gnu
mircea_popescu is mildly offended at this "i will persist in being a redditard" attitude, for the record.
asciilifeform: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=YrA1zuD2 << fucking scammerz
decimation: asciilifeform: the wisdom I've picked up from my own experiments and reading about yours is that it seems the ada compiler you choose is critical
assbot: Logged on 05-03-2015 21:51:43; jurov: thestringpuller that's exactly what i do have in mind
asciilifeform: i assumed he likes dead tree
danielpbarron: ah apparently i got the 2005 one
danielpbarron: asciilifeform, i searched for the code you mentioned in here, and yeah it says 95 in the title or whatever
mats: no, i bought a majority of it at 800 BTCUSD
danielpbarron: i found a used one for 60 USD (the new is twice that) and impulsively added it to another order i had pending
danielpbarron: not sure what i was thinking except that i like the chapter:verse thing
mats: i managed to make ~60% ROI in the 13 months ive had a coinbr account
danielpbarron: i ordered that "bible" you mentioned
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu and i'd still bet a nickel on the republicans
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski not my country, whadda i care. she's still the only not braidamaged runner so far.
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu i seem to recall you saying something to the effect of 'old women in power are the fucking worst'
assbot: Logged on 05-03-2015 21:02:00; mike_c: i understand the theory :) I don't get the basis.
mircea_popescu: your first doesn't lead to your second, so which do i admit, the first or the sercond ?
mircea_popescu: tbh, i don't know there exists material more intellectually objectionable than the shit pouring out of the usg.
mircea_popescu: i am certainly not taking any advice from these morons.
assbot: Logged on 05-03-2015 20:32:25; jurov: ^ as per above, it does not affect organic molecules. just numbs the smell cells, I guess.
mircea_popescu: sure. but as a matter of principle, the naive 1990s hippy "here's a thing i found, i am using it now" thing jumped the shark.
mircea_popescu: http://www.jwz.org/blog/2015/03/google-seems-to-have-broken-email-forwarding/#comment-160795 << lawl i like this guy.
mircea_popescu: adlai> i guess everything's clonable, << what's this, progress hour ?
adlai: i guess everything's clonable, so that's the wrong analogy to make; physical unclonable items would be used for authentication ('thing is as i remember it'), shared secrets are used for secure communication
asciilifeform: when i used word 'unclonable' - that's meant literally. as in, no one will produce a matching half of that broken glass
asciilifeform: incidentally, i love a good analogue 'stone-age' cryptomechanism. and not only for enciphering. consider the broken cup.
mircea_popescu: fixed distance i mean. if you have a 100 cm pad with 1 leter per cm, yes.
mircea_popescu: "sure. i can crack it any way you want me to"
asciilifeform: i see it
mircea_popescu: all the ones i've seen were asymmetrical.
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu i'm slow..
asciilifeform: i doubt that they varied the taper
mircea_popescu: it's what i said o.O
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform what i mean is, that you need the volume to be defined by the same angle all around the center. ie, you need a baton that can be turned. whereas in practice they'd use unturned batons.
mircea_popescu: 500km. wow check me out, i can estimate!
pete_dushenski: also, who needs scoopbot when I'm here anyways : http://www.contravex.com/2015/03/05/the-fashionability-of-being-uncompetitive-because-reasons/
mircea_popescu: gotta ask 'em, cazalla. whadda i know >D
pete_dushenski: adlai do i misunderstand how scytales work ?
adlai: sure, i know what scytales are. but 'a variable diameter stick is really a fascinating way of graphing cryptographic curves.' = ?
cazalla: of course, i'm working on the assumption these are lefties who would be grossly offended at such an idea but you never know..
pete_dushenski: atomic theory i knew, but steam engine ?!
mircea_popescu: i think it's unseemly that they should be further encouraged.
cazalla: i hate to link to it, but.. http://www.tmz.com/2015/03/05/harrison-ford-plane-crash-landing-golf-course-santa-monica/
adlai: more personally, if perfect information exists, scalpl is truly a wild goose chase; i'm betting my time on perfect information not existing, and there being room for patience to profit off information fuzzyness
punkman: I don't think carnot cycle is a good analogy here
asciilifeform: jurov: i think i get what you mean
asciilifeform: but i don't know who the users are and what motivates them
asciilifeform: i think i understand how coinbr works, and why
jurov: i'm trying to make do under some constraints, which i explained several time here ☟︎
asciilifeform: i just cannot know what they are.
asciilifeform: no issue, just the fact that i personally don't have any jobs for which coinbr is the right tool
asciilifeform: (but i know that it isn't happening with trading, because i'm not an idiot, so i don't trade)
asciilifeform: jurov: nope. i'm not the least bit interested in low-frequency trading
asciilifeform: calculate, how much coin would i need to have on hand for it to be worth the effort in getting a coinbr account and making the gears go correctly
asciilifeform: (unlike 'redditicus' the impossibility doesn't irritate me in the slightest, i have other things in life to play with)
asciilifeform: i merely suspect that no one, not even a god, could 'get rich' at 'investing' pocket change at mpex
mike_c: i'll leave it at this - you will come up with a number that is just as useful with public info as you would with non-public info.
mike_c: ok, but that's what i'm saying. the god needs non-public info
mike_c: well, I not only have a clue, i have the order book history :) ☟︎
asciilifeform: i can - and do - play this game privately on occasion
asciilifeform: because i don't so much go in for religion
asciilifeform: (i, for instance, wasn't interested at all until invited to write a review, using free demo. which i did. and in the course of said demo, realized that i've not particularly much to -do- with such a thing, on account of having approximately no coin)
asciilifeform: i kinda wonder why poor folks are even interested in mpex (or, for that matter, schwab) ☟︎
asciilifeform: danielpbarron: if homo redditicus were only a problem because 'spamming the orderbook', that would be another thing. a bot could theoretically 'vacuum up the chump money' and that's that. But - they, as i understand, spam support lines, public fora, and overall poison the atmosphere in ways not outweighed by the pennies they bring in
felipelalli: aahahah, I allow. He can make fractional reserve. If this pay my fee.
jurov: thestringpuller that's exactly what i do have in mind ☟︎
felipelalli: jurov: I'm OK with 60 or 90 days delay.
felipelalli: jurov: the point is that I don't want to "trade online", I don't have time for that. I just want to buy MPEx or QNTRA for example and let there, sleeping.
felipelalli: danielpbarron: it isn't $ 10, it was just an exaggeration. I guess I have more than $ 100 there.
jurov: don't worry, when i finally implement these loans, i'll start nagging
danielpbarron: i'd hate to see things get too user friendly up in here :p
felipelalli: mike_c: yes. now I think jurov is too much nice. :D
felipelalli: that would be great. But $5 / mo worth it, I thought it was more expensive, don't know why. I'll continue to pay that even without big investments yet.
jurov: similar like i do for qntra people
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: well I keep my private key in a back up in a tube up my but
jurov: anyway i plan the possiblity to loan everything to coinbr, with dividend payments directly to your address
asciilifeform: ^ i never grokked this argument
felipelalli: well! That's why I am saying I cannot play yet! :) I'm investing hard in my business, I can't invest hard in MPEx assets yet right now.
felipelalli: well, if I buy like $10 in assets, if I pay $5 / month I am making a bad deal, right?
felipelalli: asciilifeform: I'd imagine that. :(
jurov: i could not be arsed to do it yet
asciilifeform: danielpbarron: what is a clean coin? i thought there is no taint in bitcoin << but there is in fiat.
danielpbarron: what is a clean coin? i thought there is no taint in bitcoin
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: given the FDIC-like insurance scheme enemy is planning, i would think it probably there is some ability to forcefully liquidate funds against trader's wills (at least smaller ones)
asciilifeform: mike_c: i still don't get why somebody buying a parcel of $maxint btc would affect the price on, e.g., 'btc-e'
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: "Oh i received coins." with gun at head... << it isn't clear why this would lead to price drops at public exchanges, unless anticipatory sell-offs (which would be brief)
thestringpuller: winning bidder says, "Oh i received coins." with gun at head in background from USG suit and tie
mike_c: i understand the theory :) I don't get the basis. ☟︎