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mircea_popescu: actually, let's put this in the log.
asciilifeform: and its removal , no more conceivable than removal of newton's 3rd law
asciilifeform: they see usg as part of fabric of the universe
mircea_popescu: i expect this is factual.
a111: Logged on 2017-08-29 14:26 asciilifeform: 19:41 <@fenn> the patent was the excuse everyone used for not sharing their homegrown plasmids
asciilifeform: witness these poor heathens' view of patents, tho
mircea_popescu: "but mp, i'm against violence" "you'll get discounted out of existence in the marketplace" "uhhhh!"
a111: Logged on 2017-07-20 19:44 mircea_popescu: windows will either compete with tmsr or go away. if it competes -- it becomes. if it goes away -- it becomes. there is no choice and there is no will.
mircea_popescu: back in 2014 the idea was that they are (and in fact they were, mostly by accident). it's been generally washed out of them by now.
asciilifeform: that these people are sitting on coin, is an atrocity, and the sooner corrected -- the better
a111: Logged on 2017-08-18 03:59 mircea_popescu: so he bought btc in 2014. his job is to lose it to his betters, nothing else.
a111: Logged on 2017-08-18 03:59 mircea_popescu: pro tip : nobody has any incentive to help fucktarded nobody on a stick keep his unearned and unwarranted claim to importance.
asciilifeform: i'm beginning to wrap head around http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-18#1699945 + http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-18#1699946 ☝︎☝︎
mircea_popescu: from experience they subjectively think they're "doing pretty good" ; in any case "better than those other deplorables". whereas discoursively he could in principle say anything, chiefly because is not convinced words carry any meaning. as long as he's not saying something verboten like "africans have no culture", it's all up for grabs. "for controversy" which is somehow related to "funding".
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform not even false, i dunno there's much worth reading in english. i mean one can be done with twain and shakespeare in a summer.
mircea_popescu: but in any case, ANOTHER aspect of discipline reveals itself. "work on what mp tells you to work on, not on what you think is fun to work on".
asciilifeform: and the inevitably comorbid 'i know enlish, i Can And Have Read Everything There Was Worth The Reading'
asciilifeform: witness the response, also typical, 'oh hey , you don't fellate lincoln? you must LUVV AYNRAND then'
mircea_popescu: "who squeezed all the life outta ya anyways"
asciilifeform: because in his mind he flies to alpha centauri 'just next month'
mircea_popescu: i can't. it's as incomprehensible to me as the girls. a boy that dun wanna fight, really ? exactly like a girl that dun wanna fuck, i look at these like a dog looks at a painted bone. "nice work i guess lol. but..."
asciilifeform: so he answers 'show me FUN!! things, your work is a snore, nobody's flying to alpha centauri on it'
asciilifeform: to the fella for whom even his plasma tv is magical artifact
asciilifeform: i can grasp the psychology ( psychiatry..? ) of the california folx. yes, imaginary star drive or immortality nanobot pill is 'moar exciting' than real-life little board with fpga...
mircea_popescu: myeah. good thing people are busy "thinking" about things they don't understand instead.
asciilifeform: plenty of green field left also. e.g. the freebsd-had-no-rng-for-two-years thing
mircea_popescu: anyway, surgeon general's warning : openssh is at this point known by the republic to be cryptographically weak.
asciilifeform: or rather, how they cameabout
asciilifeform: ( the debian primes are well-known )
asciilifeform: personally i'm interested in the nondebian ones
mircea_popescu: ah not yet done. aite, up to you.
asciilifeform: but will publish table, along with what else is known re each ( e.g. is debian prime ? etc )
mircea_popescu: print teh lists.
mircea_popescu: if it's the case that "here's this list of 200 primes which popped 2000 moduli", then we should make a histogram of moduli per prime.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: mechanism is, if isprime(N / q), then p = N/q , announce(p).
mircea_popescu: and further, how many are the same factors ? because it's starting to occur to me we might be able to find an openssh bug through birthdaying the factors it keeps popping up.
mircea_popescu: a speaking of which asciilifeform i was meaning to ask, seeing how they keep popping in pairs : how many times as a % of cases is that when we pop a modulus we pop it for BOTH p and q ?
asciilifeform: hey, recall, g_l's 'fuck off with your old stolid newton, i will make UNIFIED THEORY!'
asciilifeform: very easy to kneel to the majesty of nsa, when you skipped kindergarten and have nfi how to find q given a p...
mircea_popescu: wtf transfuckinghumanism! there's all this basic humanism stuff to be still mastered!
mircea_popescu: dude this possibly takes the cake. i mean the previous contender was what, something in basic physics. but this is...
asciilifeform: 01:28 < fenn> i don't know how to do that and not interested in learning right now
asciilifeform: 01:26 < adlai> hint: try finding the 2nd factor
mircea_popescu: a recall the gazelle and cheetahs scenes ?
asciilifeform: you can have tiger that also dun attack. so long as he's fed. and in good mood. neh?
mircea_popescu: you know you can have wolf pups that don'\t attack the farm animals ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform to a large degree yes.
mircea_popescu: THEN they keep biting the steel girder in any real interaction, because guess what, if you're not watching tv the conventions of tv world aren't enforceable.
asciilifeform: wolf in the forest, also trained?
mircea_popescu: they get trained by tv and candy crush to be as superficial as possible because it reduces production costs significantly.
asciilifeform: this is what, the 5th d00d.
asciilifeform: lol, 01:53 < fenn> somehow i knew both these names and never put it together
asciilifeform: http://gnusha.org/logs/2017-08-29.log << lulzy, i had nfi adlai wanted to work pr for us!111
mircea_popescu: kinda why literature was a thing in 1700 france ; was not a thing in 1900s us.
asciilifeform: how all - afaik - good sf -- worked. ( notice, past tense.. )
a111: Logged on 2017-08-28 23:35 mircea_popescu: because the political power is a super-2 exponential on smarts, whereas cost is a logarithmic on stupidity, it's very easy to be powerful hanging out with smart people. almost as easy as it is to go bankrupt hanging out with many people.
mircea_popescu: goes right back to http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-28#1704371 ; it's very easy as an author to write great books -- write books that only appeal to the intelligent and get a free ride on your reader's backs. ☝︎
asciilifeform: this is an extremely common thing.
asciilifeform: orig b00k rocked because left much to imagination.
asciilifeform: but the observation stands.
asciilifeform: a few of them were , sadly, by herbert
mircea_popescu: i think the later author (iirc the sequels weren't written by the original, but some son or inheritor at any rate) suffered very much from the equalizing stupidity (ie, unaware of differences, thinking self equivalent to anyone) who then imagined "what people want" is "to have blanks filled in" and produced very much http://trilema.com/2017/and-dont-go-around-upgrading-the-testaments-either/#selection-67.187-67.188
mircea_popescu: that ain't literature anymore than memory-trained monkey is thinker.
mircea_popescu: it's plain to notice, too, all the fanfic porn on literotica or whatever always has these stat cards, "she was so and so and tits like that and the other".
mircea_popescu: but you're very much correct, and yes, the #1 skill of mp-writer is exactly "do not specify".
mircea_popescu: indeed. and much of the result is that it creates different notions in different people.
asciilifeform: as soon as he started shitting out sequels where the details filled in -- permanent ruin.
asciilifeform: much of the appeal of the b00k, imho, was that it left such detail to imagination. ☟︎
asciilifeform: herbert does not say ~how~ they got trained.
mircea_popescu: you can't train into being moon ; and if you are moon you can train while playing civ or golden axe. i know i did.
mircea_popescu: right. which is why in my mind it's represented as a sort of you know, moon. "you can't reboot the machine without knowing what it's doing"
asciilifeform: in the b00k, it was described that they were selected & trained, and somewhat rare ( i.e. if yours got killed, it was an expensive problem , to replace )
mircea_popescu: ie, like a very beautiful girl ; not like a very well trained $sport boy.
asciilifeform: ( a more refined variant of the real-life 19th c profession of 'calculator' )
mircea_popescu: yes, but in a mystical rather than artisanal sense
mircea_popescu: i was busy with girls by then.
mircea_popescu: i did not read the sequels.
mircea_popescu: yes, i did read the original coupla books, as a 15yo boy.
a111: Logged on 2017-08-29 13:24 phf: but i think it was cool as a kind of roleplay toy "learn all these tricks and you'll be just like a mentat from dune"
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-29#1704886 << my understanding of " a mentat from dune" was "a guy who takes a lot of showers", rather than what i discovered later was the general us view on the matter, "guy who does lots of xword puzzles". i have nfi where that typically 80s idea "xword puzzles make you smart" came from. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-08-29 12:57 phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-29#1704716 << i don't think it matters which faction of ultra rationalist posthumanists you belong to. either way the nature of your misunderstanding of tmsr take certain predictable shape, and so are your interests, etc. nobody thinks that you literally suck yudkowsky's cock, but personally i don't even care.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-29#1704883 << i had nfi the *humanist crowd was large enough to have factions. ☝︎
BingoBoingo: Even then, negative turning radius
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Those things are fun. Like a morbidly obese golf cart.
BingoBoingo: kanzure: Well, sometimes a big oem doesn't make a truck that quite exactly fits your job or your site
BingoBoingo: The electrics tend to not be roadable at all. 4 points base instead of 3, etc
BingoBoingo: Yeah, toyota makes those
mircea_popescu: had to have the lift raised or else would have suspended itself
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Sweet, was it one of those little toyota LPG trucks?
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/15F4FA38A9D548A96D3C479721A62823BC7C76EC8C0B0E6DA74E3BD0E36EBC4D << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1797...1043 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '212.175.153.55 (ssh-rsa key from 212.175.153.55 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (Unknown TR)
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/15F4FA38A9D548A96D3C479721A62823BC7C76EC8C0B0E6DA74E3BD0E36EBC4D << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1513...6157 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '212.175.153.55 (ssh-rsa key from 212.175.153.55 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (Unknown TR)
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo in which vein : coupla weeks ago saw angry forklift beeping while driving down this hill road (like 15% incline, crazy serpentines etc)
BingoBoingo: kanzure: Well, cheap used forklifts are like anything else. There's collector's markets, enthusiast clubs, and modding hobbyists. Though mebbe you'd picked up a cheap one.
kanzure: BingoBoingo: i unloaded the FIB from a trailer, if that's what you mean.
mircea_popescu: kanzure is this a girl one of yours ?
BingoBoingo: kanzure: Ah, was hoping maybe you had something cool you were looking to unload.
a111: Logged on 2017-08-28 23:39 kanzure: you could safely argue it would look like a plot of the sha256 function against a graph, but i would also be surprised to hear that
kanzure: forklift was temp rented
BingoBoingo: trinque: How is the ongoing weather? Perhaps submit a piece on that if reallity differs from what is on tv?
BingoBoingo: <kanzure> yea had to get a forklift to move this thing << Do you still have forklift? What kind, is it for sale?