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mircea_popescu: phf but in any case, i ~can~ read a million lines. take me a season, but then again what are seasons for,.
asciilifeform: 'we have to destroy the village, in order to save it'
asciilifeform: same thing
a111: Logged on 2017-08-29 20:21 mircea_popescu: "we'll... ahem... protect the item... from derp-ass spammers who might want to do... exactly what roger ver is actually doing... in a few years ie today"
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-29#1705467 << recall the 'linux foundation' ? ☝︎
mircea_popescu: phf 1mn lines. i am currently trying to discern if i will. i have tools to help me in any case, some of which wetware ( eg http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-29#1704882 ) some of which not. ☝︎
phf is mildly curious is mp is doing his "once i found a thing, i read the whole archive" thing on 5gb or whatever it is of their log.. ☟︎
asciilifeform: gotta love these folx, 'patent' on item that lived in soil for $fuckknows million year
mircea_popescu: "we'll... ahem... protect the item... from derp-ass spammers who might want to do... exactly what roger ver is actually doing... in a few years ie today" ☟︎
mircea_popescu: like bitcoin.com registration, if anyone recalls those lulz.
mircea_popescu: im sure if you pin down anyone enough to ask it's you know "a protective patent" to "protect it" from "the bad guys"
mircea_popescu: yawell. usia. recall that article aboput how nobody can keep up with the printing to satisfy the wowow fantasy ?
asciilifeform: as is typical in usglandia
asciilifeform: teixobactin << lulzy episode : 100% taxpayer-funded, yet 100% patented and monopolized by $shitcorp
shinohai: I hear they lock you in a room and force you to read coindesk articles all day.
mircea_popescu: shinohai teh silbert police is on to you nao.
mircea_popescu: anyone with a diy interest in microbiology should be doing precisely that at least fucking once, these days.
mircea_popescu: wtf is your excuse not running around planting chips in your back yards to find the next teixobactin ?
mircea_popescu: <@fenn> you could have a dialysis membrane in a microfluidic chip i guess << speaking of vaguely this : the great success of the new microflora research chips was so great it even made it to qntra! seems an eminently crowd-source-able item, in a useful way at that.
mircea_popescu: but, whether it got put there by address owner or not, still same queue same process, so whatdiff does it make.
mircea_popescu: dun has to be automated.
trinque: not automating transactions going out.
mircea_popescu: trinque ah, good i said something then. any strong reason for this ?
trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-29#1705403 << I didn't expect it to be used direct to address anyway, but rather to just change hands, then the other guy has to ask for a withdrawal ☝︎
mircea_popescu: (apartments, one above, one below. the one below had an electrically leaky stove, so i bought metalware and punished girlies had to make coffee on it. ZAP ZAP ZAP.)
shinohai: mircea_popescu looks like he would operate BTC speakeasy in that pic
mircea_popescu: in other lulz, is thwe current trilema header my dorkiest pic ever or what.
asciilifeform: kanzure: i read the 'wizards' heathen logz, every few month, and know what it is that seems to occupy you lot
mircea_popescu: as i told the girl saturday, "i'll tell you when you ask!"
kanzure: ohh now you tell me
mircea_popescu: wikipedia is for tards. you know this do you ?
kanzure: how then would i maintain my reputation of overkill otherwise?
mircea_popescu: had no idea i was doing any of that.
mircea_popescu: um. i feel liek teh bourgeois gentleman over here.
kanzure: sure is a strange way to do coinjoin
mircea_popescu: O WAIT! THAT"S NOT IMPLEMENTED YET!
mircea_popescu: i just get a "x might want to be upped" notification, that's it.
shinohai: Maybe he is trying to avoid Barry Shillbert's secret Bitcoin police
danielpbarron: yeah if they break something else i'll just dig it out of one of my working machines and apply the same treatment
jhvh1: shinohai: The operation succeeded.
shinohai: !~later tell mats http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/zZ9Ny/?raw=true
asciilifeform: danielpbarron: they'll keep breaking it for so long as physically possible.
mircea_popescu: nice work danielpbarron ; shows the value of keeping proper tapes huh.
mircea_popescu: plenty early. no, my expectations was you're stuck with dust, and i was going to offer you one so you have one.
mircea_popescu: yes but, more than one or 0.dust ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: seems like i've read the d00d before, long ago. but can't remember when, and where..
mircea_popescu: so the -ists as basically, the filename, whereas the file contents is a pile of heuristics/hacks, work as well as you might expect ?
phf: mircea_popescu: i don't think a thinking man is any kind of ist. i think it's an affect, one could be a rationalist and then he's going to talk about occam and denounce causes, or one can be some kind of mystic, and then he's going to have a particular stance also. i don't think any of this has to do with with any sort of understanding.
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: Urban Dictionary: pencil dick: <http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php%3Fterm%3Dpencil%2520dick>; What do people consider to be a pencil dick ? : bigdickproblems: <https://www.reddit.com/r/bigdickproblems/comments/32edi6/what_do_people_consider_to_be_a_pencil_dick/>; pencil dick - Wiktionary: <https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/pencil_dick>
asciilifeform: the 2 are as related as cock is to pencil.
mircea_popescu: give it more power, it'll cut through other things! :D
mircea_popescu: he got an electroporing thing, in this vein.
asciilifeform: kanzure: now, here's 1 cnc tool for which you ~don't~ need rigidity -- electrolytic cutting head. was tried in su, and still (!) in production today, but 'industrial' scale. would be interesting to see compact version thereof. ( see old log )
kanzure: so touchy in here
mircea_popescu: eh, dun ruin his thunder.
mircea_popescu would like to hear what the man says.
mircea_popescu: kanzure mind asking him to come over ? i'll rate him anyway on teh basis of what i've seen
danielpbarron: shinohai, thanks to this latest annoyance i'm a little closer to understanding how such a mirror might work
mircea_popescu knows of no other qualification for the unknown besides asking the right questions.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform so you were cured. but he's, again, asking the right question.
mircea_popescu: so basically, either a slut (cock comes through the glory hole, i suck it, what do you want from me) or else a fanatic (allah told me!). otherwise, thinking man has no alternative but to be rationalist ?
shinohai: danielpbarron: it appears this cuntoo mirroe that mod6 spoke of is becoming more and more important.
asciilifeform: hey, i was cured. ( 'inexpensive' and 'portable' does not go with the mass you need for useful accuracy cutting even aluminum )
mircea_popescu: ehehehe! " how to make an inexpensive portable CNC milling machine - my Buckminster Fuller Institute contest "hexapod" entry"
a111: Logged on 2017-08-29 19:12 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-29#1704893 << what'd be the alternative to the rationalist without quotes here ? like an existentialist say ? or perhaps an "artist" ?
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-29#1705282 << i think empiricist, but also perhaps a mystic would be another alternative, i.e. knowledge through divine revelation. i think perhaps also traditionalist, i.e. inherent knowledge ☝︎
mircea_popescu: on the basis of his authority (as i understand it) i can decode meaning out of words.
mircea_popescu: kanzure a ty. the reason i ask him is that i know him, you see. like in http://trilema.com/2014/what-the-wot-is-for-how-it-works-and-how-to-use-it/
mircea_popescu: well, maybe it should be worrisome the best times were in 2014, but yes, seems alive enough.
phf: nah, catv was dead. this thing is alive
asciilifeform: i thought that was catv
mircea_popescu: 14:43 < kanzure> i was just going through "the list" in my head (i don't really have a list, i'm just making things up that sound important) << ehehehe. this is becoming very alike that seinfeld episode where they had an opposite world and there was an opposte alf named fenn and so on. THE RSMT!!!
mircea_popescu: kanzure> i wonder if people just signed their work with leibniz's name as a way to get it preserved << your reference points are pythagoras and perhaps
mircea_popescu: the original privateers were created through letters patent ; the meaning of the word there is very much in the vein of monarchical absolutism. it was later co-opted when industrial revolution folk wanted a way to claim transcendence for acts of commerce.
mircea_popescu: this is one of the main ways in which wiki "education" fails. to understand things you must follow their pedigree not merely attempt to recognize instantaneous shape.
mircea_popescu: kanzure you are experiencing the following problem : you do ocr on old text, which produces ambiguities that bite you in the ass. yes the string "patent" can be found in medieval and early modern period documents. the item thereby denoted however is not a patent.
mircea_popescu: 12:23 < kanzure> there is a certain argument about not always throwing away legacy code, but i currently forget the exact argument << it was joel writing up netscape implosion.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform 12:22 <@fenn> how many lines of code is OCC? <<< see, he is asking the right question. i knew my patience will be dug back out from the hole by the unfolding of events!
a111: Logged on 2017-08-29 14:25 asciilifeform just made it through entomological swarmpile http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-29#1704882 -- was really sumthing
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-29#1704898 << well i was going to read that after the log, but since you put spoilers in there ima go read it first and continue later. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-08-29 14:10 kanzure: phf: that sounds like something else. the lesswrong folx are moron navelgazers. yes it makes sense to "use thinking" but not if the output is just a pile of ponyfic and fearmogering.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-29#1704897 << see, the problem is not THAT it's ponyfic ; but that it's bad. there's plenty of demand for good fearmongering (don't stick your tongue in wall socket, son!), the problem is there's no demand for bad fearmongering. it's the quality, not the kind of item, that's the problem. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: in particular phf what'd be the name for "opinions and actions based on "i don't see anything wroing with it"" ? still rationalist ?
mircea_popescu: i take it we're all aware how athens (ie, wisdom) was born according to the greeks, yes ?
mircea_popescu: ("artist" = choiceless art producer, say like durer. or i suppose originally, zeus, "gotta get this bitch out of my fucking skull")
asciilifeform: does it make sense to proclaim it a 'way of life' ?
a111: Logged on 2017-08-29 14:00 phf: but yes i still think that you're a rationalist, without quotes. i don't think you would object to it, i mean, if you go by definition (opinions and actions based on reason and knowledge) rather than "rationalwiki" "rationalist".
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-29#1704893 << what'd be the alternative to the rationalist without quotes here ? like an existentialist say ? or perhaps an "artist" ? ☝︎☟︎
asciilifeform: or kako's 'shitcoin forks went away on their own, they just didn't feel like winning'
mircea_popescu: i don't think that really even happened. i mean... WHAT PROOF DO WE HAVE
asciilifeform: for psychopathological 'immune reaction' to dissonance
mircea_popescu: well yes, what's one to do.\
asciilifeform: which is why you end up observing what the 'pill' folx called 'hamstering', when confronting them , rubbing nose in it
mircea_popescu: by the oject ? but ofcouars.
asciilifeform: i suspect that most of the 'golden cage' behaviour is unexamined
mircea_popescu: tered than on his own."
mircea_popescu: the captured male how to behave so it doesn't rub wrongly. Example suffices, he will perhaps protest but certainly learn and definitely change to fit the limit on his penis. It's not like he's not very eager to alter his behaviour so he can maintain that sweet, sweet delicious cage for longer, for as long as possible, forever. Whatever he may say, it's all window-dressing for that simple, fundamental fact -- he's happier neu ☟︎
mircea_popescu: protective confines of your steel gift. They do want to, all of them do. Impediments, such as exist, all come from circumstantial happenstance, you have to be careful not to pinch their delicate skins putting it on -- and mind that for every inch of physical skin males have miles upon miles of mind-skins enveloping them like a far-reaching cocoon. Once on, you'll have to make sure it doesn't rub wrongly, and especially teach
mircea_popescu: "Every male you ever run into will be looking for an excuse, to explain to himself, and to "everyone else" as he represents that in his head, why he isn't doing, more, better, etcetera. You happen to have an exceptional answer, and one that he is extremely eager to receive from you. For this reason you are to expect no fundamental problems, it's not like you might run into a male that doesn't want to find himself in the safe,
asciilifeform: somehow can sit and smoke pot, which is punishable by 20 to life in all 50 states ( per usg paper, at least ) but not break patent, oh never!11