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brendafdez fucked it, I thought it was Luke-Jr saying that shit.
mod6: Luke-Jr: anyway, im trying to listen on -port=8333 but i think aws is doing something funny.
danielpbarron: n3xtb1gthng, as long as MPEx accepts my coin I'm alright with it
cazalla: anyway i don't need this aggravation, had enough of it today
cazalla: n3xtb1gthng, if people willingly accept my worthless dollars, i would be foolish to give them something of actual value eh
trinque: PeterL: I was looking for a definition of the phrase ☟︎
n3xtb1gthng: cazalla - I mean if you didn't want the possibility of spending it, how is it even money? It's only money because you know people will accept it :) :) And that comes from the fact that they accept everyone else's - i.e. high adoption.
cazalla: oh look n3xtb1gthng is yet another person suggesting i spend my money, gtfo
n3xtb1gthng: danielpbarron, I disagree. if twenty people are trading seashells at a rate of twenty trades happen per day, that is high adotpion. at the rate of 1 seashell gets traded per year, that is low adotpion. adoption = spending.
n3xtb1gthng: danielpbarron, I'm totally unclear. spending literally == (=========) adoption, when it comes to a currency?
n3xtb1gthng: I mean a low percentage of seigniorage, not like 10% inflation or anything.
n3xtb1gthng: Luke-Jr, I mean if there is a nominal inflation that is automatic (beyond the very low percentage caused by mining) that would incentivize spending, and since people want to spend it, adoption (people will accept it).
brendafdez: BingoBoingo I'm available, too. Not sure about the 'good' part, though.
Luke-Jr: I'd like to investigate why my crawler isn't picking it up
mod6: <+Luke-Jr> asciilifeform: Bitcoin's rules are defined by what people use. Nobody is using the 0.5.3.1 fork. << not true. i'm using it.
danielpbarron: i am
BingoBoingo: I wish Scotland would have seceeded so I could justify writing "Lower Britain" more often
mod6: maybe i'll order one this coming week
mircea_popescu: to no-one's surprise except i guess a coupla code monkeys here and there who really bought the "doocracy" koolaid.
brendafdez: Oh, that's sad, I though I knew eho they'd just hired to look for them. "Yeah I suppose the sad story in here is that if you show supposedly literate teenagers the insides of a USB stick they may be seeing it for the first time, and if you demand they point out the actual memory cores to save their lives they may well not be able to." http://trilema.com/2013/how-to-airgap-a-practical-guide/#comment-95546
mircea_popescu: i wouldn't ask cisco for their own heads on a platter.
mircea_popescu: i can see why the gavin troop would like the defense of "we have already moved the protocol once" to rely on, but it's simply not true.
brendafdez: i thought you may want ot have a laugh and it seems it wasn't shared here yet: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/03/18/want_to_dodge_nsa_supply_chain_taps_ask_cisco_for_a_dead_drop/
assbot: Logged on 20-03-2015 01:06:49; Luke-Jr: asciilifeform: I mean the consensus protocol
assbot: Logged on 06-03-2015 02:28:39; asciilifeform: 'On two occasions I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr. Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question.'
asciilifeform: but apparently this dope is being passed out, because i routinely run into folks who have this kind of mental bug
mircea_popescu: i'm sure it'll do just as well as all preivious rehashes of this process.
asciilifeform: i can picture how
asciilifeform: i thought it was 'chavv'
BingoBoingo: At the time of the 2013 fork I humbly though resolution would be possible. I mean it is just making DB's agree. Yet... LevelDB is a mess.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i dare say i did figure out. but not enough hands here.
mircea_popescu: only way to manage it i can think of at the moment is disallowing the power ranger imbeciles from further commits
mircea_popescu: i tyhought they were stuggling with getting it to work.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i don't intend to bring the cardboard
midnightmagic: yeah, I run -current on NetBSD occasionally too..
asciilifeform: i had a box with it, for instance
midnightmagic: Also, I don't know much about FreeBSD except they caught their shitty /dev/random mistake before it was released to production
mircea_popescu: midnightmagic i don't think anyoine's using them anymore seriously.
midnightmagic: asciilifeform: the thing I'd be more concerned about was the recent non-random random number generator they committed to released versions.
midnightmagic: asciilifeform: most those problems I've read so far are only problems if you let randos log in to your bitcoind box. I personally would not be interested in running a non-dedicated bitcoind box on any OS.
midnightmagic: Linux on PPC builds and syncs to head based on the bigendian patch. I have not verified it against a current git yet.
asciilifeform: how does consensus care, so long as i answer queries in precisely same way as 'leveldb' user
asciilifeform: yes but why 'leveldb.' say i'd like to use a db which runs on a martian trinary computer and writes bits to miniature dead babies turned in one of two directions
Luke-Jr: BingoBoingo: ah, hm. I wonder how easily just adding some OpenBSD checks similar to the FreeBSD ones would go
BingoBoingo: Luke-Jr: OpenBSD. I had the choice of debugging a bunch of wank or reverting to 0.7.2 and hand patching.
Luke-Jr: asciilifeform: I mean the consensus protocol ☟︎
cazalla: asciilifeform, my reputation for poverty IRL might not match with what goes on here simply because the one thing i will spend money on is food/drink.. every unit i've rented furnished with second hand goods, i've purchased clothing from the same places (mind you, have not purchased clothing in at least 2 years)
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I need working hardware. In the past I've treated such bexen as too disposable. Ingnored fans cries for help.
Luke-Jr: I believe it's merged.
BingoBoingo: If it came to replacing my current vehicle I'd prolly start looking at used police crown vics
asciilifeform: i'd rather fill a suitcase with benjies & publicly burn it
cazalla: even if bitcoin was 10k per, a brand new car is an extravagance i would not spring for
asciilifeform: possibly the most dangerous animal to be in the lands of usg (and au, as i understand, is a kind of target practice range for usg idiocies) is the fella with just enough to be worth skinning, but three or four zeroes short of mircea_popescu-esque atomic dirigible where he can hit back ☟︎
cazalla: asciilifeform, you have no idea i tells ya
cazalla: if there is anything that gets my blood pressure sky rocketing, it's people tell me or someone close to me how i should spend money on useless shit
mod6: <+funkenstein_> i tested the 0.5.3 build on an old ubuntu box, built like a charm << nice! thanks for the info
BingoBoingo: I think I may have seen that version
asciilifeform: ^ from, i think, one of the film versions
BingoBoingo: At night walking I see plenty of cats, coons, groundhogs, foxes, and coyotes. Haven't ever identified a rat
asciilifeform: http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--x5WK3_Zo--/fzogcaspzsoynnfdqeg2.jpg
BingoBoingo: I've only here ever seen rats purchased from petstore.
asciilifeform: incidentally i often wonder if the ratfacecage is still in fashion somewhere
BingoBoingo: I dunno what it is with your flavor of swamp and rats
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: the most 'shieldy' box i've ever personally owned was a hp 'visualize'
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I liked that form factor. Just looking at the models that slice a zero off of the model number atm.
BingoBoingo spent some time today looking longingly looking at sun blade 150's (model I did not know existed or had forgotten about) on Ebay.
danielpbarron: "OK, here's the plan. Our evacuation tactic is to lock everyone in this room. They should all be extremely safe there. Except we haven't secured the vent OR fire escape... Oh well, I'm sure they'll be fine." They must have been evacuated for maybe TEN MINUTES before the zombie breaks into the fire escape door. Wow, that is a fantastic "safe zone".
mircea_popescu: i didn't leave lol.
funkenstein_: i hope to make myself useful around here eventually
funkenstein_: i tested the 0.5.3 build on an old ubuntu box, built like a charm
funkenstein_: USian you mean i suppose
mircea_popescu: for that matter, me in istanbul. very competent local secret service guy wants to know where i'm from. "i'm american" "no you're not. you're bulgarian or something".
funkenstein_: i like that, you gotta meet the locals
funkenstein_: mostly gringo stuff but not tour guide. some hitchhiking and low budget stuff, but nothing i would brag about here
funkenstein_: i've spent time on several continents
funkenstein_: mirecea_popescu, change of position with time? i misunderstand your question
ascii_field: funkenstein_: but unless i misunderstand, you see the passport as a dumb, pointless ritual
funkenstein_: ascii_field, that's what i did learn when i did travel
funkenstein_: well i understand i still need a passport
funkenstein_: how long do i need to cryosleep for?
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: i won't say specifically ru, but various aspects like 'children belong to parents as meat, not to the state' being in their bones
mircea_popescu: well maybe uninformedly, but i do believe there is such a thing as chinese, and european civilisation.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo i do not think so. i think they're trying to drone them.
BingoBoingo: I just hope the big 3 (Russia, China, USia) simply keep up their current equilibrium of losing.
mircea_popescu: which is why i'm very little inclined to take jurov's ideas about you know, russia holding anyone back too seriously. all states are evil.
trinque: I know we did things like this in Iraq
trinque: I'll check it out
mircea_popescu: cazalla inb a word, i'd say it's exactly the correct position.
cazalla: mircea_popescu http://i.imgur.com/THZwPMC.png please to translate and inform if anything interesting
mircea_popescu: jurov i doubt that's actually a group in russia tho.
jurov: i did not say bbc is innocent. but covering apparatchik's mishaps vs. war propaganda aimed to alienating whole groups of population?
mircea_popescu: if they order puffer fish because "i know what i'm doing", they get puffer fish.
trinque: jurov: dunno bout proof, but I'm referring to things like this http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/bbc/11243459/The-BBC-is-still-ignoring-evidence-of-a-potential-cover-up-over-Jimmy-Savile.html
trinque: it's those kinds of perspectives expressed here that I would *never* have encountered in daily life
jurov: yes that what i meant
ascii_field: jurov: notice that i don't live in ru, and nobody's inviting me over. but i happen to see the conflict of irreconcilable civilizations thing, and see the ru version - with the orc barbarism, yes - as less moribund
ascii_field: jurov: like, as with one fella i know, a certain country confiscated his family home and turned it into a (literal) city jail
ascii_field: jurov: i admit that i'd enjoy reading an article-length thought re: what is it between you and ru
kakobrekla: i dont see how it makes sense to have a special deposit address for first registration+deposit and then you are fine using the single one for all of the rest of txes
assbot: Logged on 19-03-2015 20:22:56; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-03-2015#1057738 << it is. people (especially people kinda too lazy to study things in depth) have all sorts of theories about privacy and keep pestering me for special addresses etc. it's a fashion is what it is, one i don't aim to encourage, and i'm stuck because w/e, serving teh customer. ☟︎