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bvt: mircea_popescu: i will become blog post, but when i get to the home machine.

diana_coman: i.e. if anything, you can say that my test code should wait a bit and then check

bvt: diana_coman: i agree; in the abort signal handler, there is a snippet of code that ignores the signal (given ZXC exception handling model).

mircea_popescu: you know, it'd be grand if this were a blog article rather than a pastebin. odds are ima want to reference it later, and as a factual matter i want ot reference "More precisely, one of the issues seems to be that abort seems to be delivered to the child thread after the check for 'thread aborted' has already been done" specifically even now.

diana_coman: mircea_popescu, I'm not aware of anything directly equivalent

diana_coman: mircea_popescu, my hope is that maybe there is some flag or option that sets it; I'll have to dig deeper to find out exactly

mircea_popescu: meanwhile at the ~angry~ retard farms, moedirtcircle 26F Primal Prey 4h It Literatly only says "not even kidding" thats it. And I'm the one thats failing 😒😒😒😒 get that stick from up your ass and be nicer to people YOU message. Fuck off dipshit. moedirtcircle 26F Primal Prey 4h Damn I finally just seen your profile. You Literatly have no looks going for you. And not intelligence either, or compassion. Have fun wit

diana_coman: hm, asciilifeform from what I see at a quick glance in that s-taprop-linux__adb it actually calls pthread_kill ONLY if "abort_handler_installed" and that in turn seems set only if not some default state ? might be a clue to follow perhaps, I haven't dug much deeper yet

a111: Logged on 2019-02-12 01:31 asciilifeform: relatedly to entire subj, http://nosuchlabs.com/pub/warez/burns.djvu is the most readable ref i've found on the subj (of how the thing is supposed to work, that is , when actually worx )

a111: Logged on 2019-02-10 16:03 diana_coman: I also tried asynchronous transfer i.e. supposedly "try this and if timeout then do that" but apparently it's in fact still "oh, but ONLY if abortable"

phf: if any log reader is getting a 404 not found, even if intermittent, please let me know. i was just getting it for a couple of minutes, but i can't figure out if that's the actual situation on the machine or some russian dns problem

phf: asciilifeform: there's also sgi machines with their famously well built x11 implementation. i believe there's no source for that one though ☟︎

mircea_popescu: meanwhile in trilema roulette, fell on http://trilema.com/2010/ce-i-de-facut/ ; would propose it to teh rotaku club as perhaps the foremost use of that language found on my blog, stylistically perfect, elegant without equal, i doubt there's much romanian that can stand up to that romanian to be found anywhere.

mircea_popescu likes nothing more than i think i know how to spell my own name innocents shooting dmca notices.

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it's dumber, schmuck's like "hi there, i r anon please delete my name". how fucking stupid does he need to be, "anon" is not listed there.

mod6: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/ht6ey/?raw=true << Ok, inflating /dev/sdb with cuntoo. Will report back more tomorrow after install is complete, and I update the lilo.conf via LiveCD chroot mount of cuntoo. Will post lilo.conf changes, and results.

asciilifeform: i'ma document the fuckwaddery ( unless diana_coman beat me to it )

a111: Logged on 2019-02-12 01:34 asciilifeform: for total thread-completeness, there is a workaround that works, but it is imho ugly ( ada 'interrupts' package ), i'ma post example if mircea_popescu et al ask.

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-12#1895123 << maybe later. for now i'd much prefer a complete and thorough in-place solution, because rly now, if we're gonna use this, it's gotta work, not work-around. ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2019-02-12 01:25 asciilifeform: i suspect this is gonna be a '1-line' patch, to fix. q is where..

mircea_popescu: i can see your point, but what can you do.

asciilifeform: i got an entire mmap lib that aint genesisable yet on acct of above

a111: Logged on 2018-10-26 02:14 asciilifeform: meanwhile, in gnat bugs : apparently ( and this is documented or mentioned nowhere ) : it is impossible to have a Ada.Finalization.Limited_Controlled type ANYWHERE inside a static library, unless it is generic all the way down (i.e. if the lib package is generic, any sub-packages must also be instantiated as generics )

asciilifeform: will see what diana_coman dug out also, whoknows maybe i botched it somehow

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i'ma article about it when i finish up raging

a111: Logged on 2019-02-11 20:27 shinohai: (I also have copy of all those gpg keys I scraped from tardstalk too)

Mocky: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-11#1894983 << I'm gonna reorder my list and move to wp first ☝︎

trinque: yep, ^ is what I meant by usb hub

mod6: It's strange because this particular box has like 10 USB ports on it. 2 in the front of the chassis, and like 8 in the back. I wonder if it's like a special add-on thing, I was going to take some pictures for you all, but I need to get down there and do that yet tonight.

mod6: The other weird thing is that 'usb hub' as shown in the kernel.debug file. I do own a USB hub, as I bought one to test multiple FGs at the same time, but it's been just sitting on my desk for weeks.

mod6: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-11#1895003 << re: So I didn't ever use a USB boot disk, I actually was just using the Live CD to do the chrooting/troubleshooting. But I did the `./bootstrap.sh` from the working gentoo environment. ☝︎

mod6: (and the others with UUIDs at the same time. Who knows, maybe that's the thing. I'll try to setup tonight for another build.)

a111: Logged on 2019-02-11 03:53 trinque: yeah, I'm specifying root=/dev/sda3 in lilo; whereas if I specified root=UUID=D9FCABCA-1F52-4A84-9CB8-4898F8DEC6AE, oughta be able to boot properly even if drive enumeration changes. that'd be nice for the infectious/reproductive angle later.

mod6: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-11#1894999 << This is actually one thing that I have not tried, I had previously done it both ways with root & boot, as /dev/sda & /dev/sda3 respectively, and with UUIDs. However, this line in particular: 'append="root=/dev/sda3 console=ttyS0,115200n8 net.ifnames=0"' I should try the UUID with instead of /dev/sda3. ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2019-02-11 03:15 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-11#1894887 << i have not forgotten you, mod6 ! will grant wishes in the order lamp was rubbed, promise

asciilifeform: hrm, also gotta add -- if the delay-powered self-destruct is made to work, then so will async killing (given as it dun have to be 'delay', can be triggered by 'entry', i.e. flag, just the same )

asciilifeform: for total thread-completeness, there is a workaround that works, but it is imho ugly ( ada 'interrupts' package ), i'ma post example if mircea_popescu et al ask. ☟︎

asciilifeform: relatedly to entire subj, http://nosuchlabs.com/pub/warez/burns.djvu is the most readable ref i've found on the subj (of how the thing is supposed to work, that is , when actually worx ) ☟︎

asciilifeform: i suspect this is gonna be a '1-line' patch, to fix. q is where.. ☟︎

asciilifeform: i'ma post moar detail as i find it, gotta recharge head 1st.

asciilifeform: http://www.loper-os.org/pub/ffa/gnatology/ave1gnat/index.htm << linked for the log. cross-indexing dunwork currently, as the damn thing aint a gpr project, but currently i dun have time to try to massage it into one , promises to be a week-long shitfest on its own

asciilifeform: currently i suspect that adacorpse deliberately broke it, this is ~the~ pheature they use to peddle their 'pro' gnat (specifically advertised as 'support of real-time annex' )

asciilifeform: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/svUIo/?raw=true << same, but with 'delay 0.0' -- succeeds. variant of same with an i/o call : also succeeds ☟︎☟︎

asciilifeform: lol i took a look at these, whole parallel world where '2011 4evah'

shinohai: (I also have copy of all those gpg keys I scraped from tardstalk too) ☟︎

shinohai: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-11#1895061 <<< Ya know, I was gonna delete those out of uploads folder, but considering they might be useful for historical purposes I'll save them to http://btcinfo.sdf.org/library/ ☝︎

BingoBoingo: Notice I didn't use the Pantsuit term. If anything we ought to preserve 'deadnaming' in our namespace for characters like bitcoin_charlie, Nefario, Taaki, Toomim, et al. Actual dead names whether or not the corresponding meat recieves oxygen.

shinohai: oh that .... I'm doing some bot testing.

asciilifeform: i dun have the ccd option tho, for some reason these cost weight in gold

asciilifeform: i dun think there were that many recorded ( can only think of 2 right off memory )

mircea_popescu: "you mean i have to sit by magic stone all day come up with incantations ? SIGN ME UO!!!"

mircea_popescu: "i feel this is security-flavoured!"

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-11#1895021 << i saw nearly half MB of these in dulap log not long ago. iirc they're pill for ciscoisms ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2018-08-01 03:07 douchebag: Also the security firm I'm working on is expected to pull at least a half million dollars by december

asciilifeform: diana_coman: i found in my notes from 'programming of hell' a possible pill for the async stop thing, will report once i verify that it actually cures , on the actual gnat

asciilifeform: i.e. fully an' properly separate rasterism from the comp per se, never buy video cards again..

phf: i saw the x11 thread, will respond in a day or two once i'm on a more reliable internet

a111: Logged on 2019-02-11 01:33 hanbot: diana_coman fwiw i ran into a few broken internal links on ossasepia today on account of their still pointing to dianacoman.com, see http://ossasepia.com/2018/03/08/eucrypt-compilation-sheet/ fo' instance.

diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-11#1894896 -> ha, apparently you caught old hosting precisely when they messed up; thank you for reporting it, I'll have to sort it out (I had redirection set up from dianacoman->ossasepia since I'm sure it's not only my internal links but atm it's broken, will fix) ☝︎

feedbot: http://bimbo.club/2019/02/philosophical-transactions-for-the-months-of-april-may-and-june-1716-part-i/ << Bimbo.Club -- Philosophical Transactions. For the months of April, May and June, 1716. - Part I.

feedbot: http://bimbo.club/2019/02/i-got-99-problems/ << Bimbo.Club -- I got 99 problems.

trinque: yeah, I'm specifying root=/dev/sda3 in lilo; whereas if I specified root=UUID=D9FCABCA-1F52-4A84-9CB8-4898F8DEC6AE, oughta be able to boot properly even if drive enumeration changes. that'd be nice for the infectious/reproductive angle later. ☟︎

mircea_popescu: people HERE fcuking love it. bought an armful of roses few days ago, dood selling it was like "that's a great hat, mr! say, when you're done with it, don't throw it out, throw it at me, i'd love to have it."

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-11#1894887 << i have not forgotten you, mod6 ! will grant wishes in the order lamp was rubbed, promise ☝︎☟︎

asciilifeform: diana_coman et al : http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/4SpwP/?raw=true << built, replicated test jig; i'ma lay the thing out on vivisection table properly after sleep ( spent today , among other things, fixing a furnace, bent wrists out , gotta let'em snap back )

asciilifeform: but nao i gotta, because it is exactly apropos

asciilifeform: this was so depressing, i did not even put in log

mircea_popescu: right ? which is exactly all the proof i need.

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: flibusta mirror was ~100G last i looked. of ~ascii text~ .

mircea_popescu: what am i gonna do now, exclude linking him cuz admin reasons ? scandal!

mircea_popescu: check out that horror, <div class="exampleblock"> <div class="content"> <div class="dlist"> <dl> <dt class="hdlist1">. and of course i can't use #hdlist1 because all comments are hdlist1.

asciilifeform: the anglosads, near as i can tell, scanning in their shakspeares and... never touched again.

mircea_popescu: omfg Mocky_ how do i link to a specific comment on your site!111

a111: Logged on 2019-02-04 16:41 asciilifeform: http://flibusta.is is asciilifeform's routine 'gutenberg', been a while since i looked at the actual one

a111: Logged on 2019-02-10 20:51 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-10#1894713 << i specifically don't even WANT the "rich media" / dvds / epubs / pdfs / whatever bullshit. i don't even want their pagelong blathers about how all-important inca is or whatever shit.

mod6: I can give it a try and report back on this as well. I have a couple of things to investigate for trinque first though.

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yeah, and has to set things nine different times because reasons. CONFIG_NORLYNOT32BiT=y #(note the i in there!)

asciilifeform: recently as experiment i build a 'latest' kernel with it; and it required curing ! lemme dig up thread :

asciilifeform: ( i keep it updated also, it is current as of the last rebuild )

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i mean "any information whatsoever."

asciilifeform: i regret to inform that i do not have a config that works on 'anythings'

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i dunlike shit urls anymoar than anyone else, it's down there on conveyor , somewhere below the various roaring fires

feedbot: http://bingology.net/2019/02/11/just-about-everything-i-grew-up-understanding-to-be-normal-is-a-recent-invention/ << Bingology - BingoBoingo's Blog -- Just About Everything I Grew Up Understanding To Be Normal Is A Recent Invention

hanbot: diana_coman fwiw i ran into a few broken internal links on ossasepia today on account of their still pointing to dianacoman.com, see http://ossasepia.com/2018/03/08/eucrypt-compilation-sheet/ fo' instance. ☟︎☟︎

lobbes: btw, I managed to finally get a handrolled heathen gentoo installed the other day (my first one ever). Still wrestling with getting networking functional, but once I do I'ma get vtools set up, and then give the cuntoo bootstrap.sh another spin

lobbes: And the utility of reporting applies to oneself too; even though my flailings in http://blog.lobbesblog.com/2019/01/initial-cuntoo-testing/ may not be of use to anyone else, -I- now have a ready history of wtf I was thinking/doing years down the line, from which to diff

a111: Logged on 2019-02-10 21:14 BingoBoingo: For my own selfish reasons I want to see what you hit your head on, because there is a very real chance when I go to try things I will also hit my head on the same rocks

lobbes: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-10#1894807 << verily. And not even necessarily rocks he hit, but also rocks avoided that less experienced folx may hit (for e.g., I have never debugged a kernel before. Now, when my time to do that comes I know I can check http://blog.mod6.net/2019/02/a-cuntoo-adventure/ to re-read how mod6 did it). ☝︎

mod6: BingoBoingo: what is meant by 'human readable'? I can mouse over them and they seem to be correct.

mod6: trinque: thank you for your comment; will respond when I can gather up some more info.

mod6: oh hey, i guess i was added to the roll.

mod6: I've got to go do some snow removal, will be back in a bit.

mod6: http://blog.mod6.net/?p=42 << Ok, I've got that blog post up.

shinohai: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-09#1894458 <<< I'm working on a simple trilema.com search function, lemme know if you'd like to see a demo. ☝︎

jurov: BingoBoingo: I'm more likely to bid on smaller amounts, 500 wff is fine. Maybe you can split the sum into several auctions.

mircea_popescu: that aside, i'm guessing i still supplied a large-ish chunk of pizarro's dubaloos in 2018. but anyway.

mircea_popescu: i personally am not generally bidding because broadly i want this thing to develop its own network and narrowly it's just twenty times the cost in overhead for whatever benefit it might produce, sorta like carrying strawberries by the boat one by one.

BingoBoingo: Anyways, if there is something I can do whether that is standardizing the length of auction, day of the month it starts, duration, etc feedback is welcome. ☟︎

mircea_popescu: risky enough. dood who failed to bid when he was supposed to is much less likely to go "oh, this high invoice is what i deserve for my failure" and rather "o no, bill too high, won't pay [nevermind that i made it too high by being deliberately stupid, that shouldn't count, nobody should ever have to do anything]"

BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: This month I suspect I may have to.