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mircea_popescu: i dunno why you're so fixated on poker,
this was just early bitcoin business.
mircea_popescu: nah, i don't recall what
the site was called, but dice something.
mircea_popescu: then
they want
to
talk about "Gdp growth" and "technology". fuck
them in
the ass with a pike of stupid,
there's no
technology in north america, and no gdp growth.
mircea_popescu: again,
this was for casino games, not poker. he never implemented multiplayer afaik.
mircea_popescu: house uses
the same hash for all players for
the whole day.
mircea_popescu: and it doesn't work without withening ; or in other words : he intelligently used
the otherwise useless whitening step as an assurance provider. was pretty clever move, esp considering
the standard for intelligence at
the
time.
mircea_popescu: and
then when
the reveal occurs, you sha512(i like chicks with small
tits71c0891f45d65ff7) and see.
mircea_popescu: then
the first hand is played as 0c3dbf77a25ebe9733548266406161111522839d1d41f221070e59c361f6b2b0990df0606d143e90b1bb9ed1a9b39ff5fcf0ac153cc0e90297f1273076fcf38c
mircea_popescu: concrete example : you set your seed
to "i like chicks with small
tits", site sets seed
to "71c0891f45d65ff7"
mircea_popescu: site publishes site + player, player can verify
that published player = what he
thought he was and
that
the sha results match (published)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform seed is a combo of site-produced
TRNG entropy and player-set (with defaults if playher doesn't feel like setting). you can change your portion at any
time.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: the reason i kept
trying
to get him
to be involved with
things was exactly
that he had good solutions
to actual problems. but... never caught on.
a111: Logged on 2017-09-01 22:18 asciilifeform:
this does not actually solve
the problem of proving
that
the output of prng was not known in advance
to one or more of
the players.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform
this impression is borne out of lack of experience and no more. what, i'm going
to assembly line phds ?
☟︎ a111: Logged on 2017-09-01 22:15 asciilifeform: 'We submitted extensive information about our random number generator (RNG)
to an independent organization. We asked
this
trusted resource
to perform an in-depth analysis of
the randomness of
the output of
the RNG, and its implementation in
the shuffling of
the cards on our platform.'
mircea_popescu: what, you're going
to arm
them
too ? with what, submarines ?
a111: Logged on 2017-09-01 22:06 asciilifeform:
though i've
thought about suggesting
to mircea_popescu
to offer hand-delivery ( chore would fall
to asciilifeform... ) as an option. but i dun like nonflat prices
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform didn't want
to commission back in 2013 or so because i don't recall, something about how doesn't want
to lose
the spirit or somesuch.
mircea_popescu: the girls love
the "ne futem sau evadam ?" "fuff. mai fimflu" one. which only exists in romanian.
jhvh1: shinohai:
The operation succeeded.
shinohai: !~later
tell jurov I wish
to donate my s.qntra shares
this month
to
the bitcoin foundation. Please advise how
to proceed,
thx.
mircea_popescu: i still
think
the best ever is
the magic of denial one.
trinque: this is not persuading me of
the hazards of hashcollision
mircea_popescu: hey, at least yours has
the best rack of
the alf-right or how did
that go.
a111: Logged on 2017-09-01 23:43 mircea_popescu: btw am i
the only one HIGHLY entertained by
the internets producing a girl alf ?
mircea_popescu: btw am i
the only one HIGHLY entertained by
the internets producing a girl alf ?
☟︎ a111: Logged on 2017-09-01 20:57
trinque: www itself is an incaism. death
to "it was said on arsebook walled garden; lives and dies at
the mercy of arsebook"
mircea_popescu: quite.
though usually in
the manner of "i just want my pension"
a111: Logged on 2017-09-01 20:51 asciilifeform: (
the www people simply pissed on
the problem, african-style, and didn't even pretend
to solve )
mircea_popescu: so as i was saying -- we don't have
to usg.dumb sign anything.
mircea_popescu: you can chose an arbitrary large prime and have
that arity.
mircea_popescu: and i don't
think it's necessarily a bad solution, which is why i said
there are others.
mircea_popescu: no, i was expecting
that's what you want ever since pushing me above.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform
the fraction is so small as
to be below heisenberg limits.
this matters.
trinque: and
they republish what
they've got. like all history.
trinque: worst case is
the original publisher is dead, and all you've got are whoever cared about him.
mircea_popescu: tell you what, i also have no proof in your sense
the slavegirls ain't cheating on me.
trinque: penultimate worst case is
that folks republish
their items in
the case of hashpocalypse. and
they
tell
their
trusted peers. and it propagates over wot.
mircea_popescu: the important point is : acordeon hash function set up
to spit 256 byte or 512 byte hashes WILL NOT collide.
mircea_popescu: we're
talking of different
things in
the sense you went off on a
tangent.
mircea_popescu: there's no shits given re
tmsa-rsa-signature being retrocompatible.
mircea_popescu: nobody forces us
to use
the 32/64 byte crap nsit likes.
mircea_popescu: so, message as chain of message blocks, with acordeon, settable hash. yes it is "possible"
to get a collision. if your hash is 512bytes long... not soon.
mircea_popescu: "hurr durr we know how
to sign "cocksucker" whenever
they use 93 bit outputs. which is... not now."