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mircea_popescu: but hey, "i guess now you know how the ''syrian refugees'' feel".
mircea_popescu: i had no idea genocide could be so intellectually appealing.
mircea_popescu: go door to door, beat all males to death, rape all females, load them up in trucks and ship them to fucking bahrein. what the everliving fuck, these people should not live.
mircea_popescu: i think as the collapse advances, i will be very hard pressed to resist the temptation to take a trip over to sf and just serb the fucking place.
mircea_popescu: but this is important! these shitheads are ENTIRELY self referential now.
mircea_popescu: to my eyes, sept 93 looks like the flu as compared to this bubonic leprosy varicella.
mircea_popescu: these delusioanl urchins are so used to seeing themselves as a sort of neo-in-matrix that it just doesn't compute.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: asciilifeform no dude. 20yo in '93 was fucking afraid of getting a beatdown.
mircea_popescu: reddit makes money and is important, star wars is an acceptable font of comparisons, "exaggeration" in the sense of cracked.com retardation is an acceptable stylistic maneuver, and the list just goes on and on.
mircea_popescu: i have nfi what they're drinking, but there's this cloud of pointedly useless 20somethings floating around in this lalaland of delusional thinking the likes of which has not been seen ever since the turks wore the byzantine "aristocratic" kids as cock decorations five centuries ago.
mircea_popescu: "emperor palpatine" and "reddit, one of the blabla". 1) reddit is shit ; 2) reddit never made any fucking money.
mircea_popescu: "I understand a business has to make money. 8chan needs to make money to survive, but making money and being open source is not mutually exclusive. Lots of sites do it, including reddit, one of the biggest sites on the Internet today."
mircea_popescu: i suppose once people get serious about it, it could be made to cost less than the tyre.
mircea_popescu: costs more to cut the tyre and replace or make a replacement than it costs to let it be.
mircea_popescu: that's actually a very close solution. about as good as it gets in terms of your dream "sunken bubbles in the ocean"
mircea_popescu: but yes. however, unfortunately for them, this is a very hard problem.
mircea_popescu: "hashing - works ; reproducibility - not yet. BUT IT IS UNBREAKABLE!"
mircea_popescu: i guess someone should make a three-mosfet hash function. just spit out the 1/f pink.
mircea_popescu: There is an extensive, and apparently never-ending, literature on "lightweight identification protocols" such as HB, HB+, HB++, HB-MP, HB*, Trusted-HB, and HBsharp. Each of these protocols was broken within one year of being proposed. Note that any authenticated cipher can trivially be used for identification: the challenger sends a random message; the prover sends back the same message, authenticated.
mircea_popescu: M18, 2015.09.2829: DIAC 2015: Directions in Authenticated Ciphers 2015. Singapore.
mircea_popescu: "a contest of which nothing is known but the name", i guess.
mircea_popescu:
http://www.cesarproject.eu/ there we go. "To maintain the European leading edge position in the transportation as well as automation market, CESAR aims to boost cost efficiency of embedded systems development and safety and certification processes by an order of magnitude."
mircea_popescu: iirc, eu was spending some decent money on a derivative to evaluate safety of embedded systems
mircea_popescu: in the same way, we also go to bed with the empress-consort of china every night.
mircea_popescu: but yes, expect all such items to be buried in well - curated burial pits.
mircea_popescu: i originally gave it as an example to stand pro toto for a larger set. specifically - that hunting the p = np thing is a waste of time, when there are in point of fact items known to be harder than np.
mircea_popescu: actually : the cost is shown to be double-exponential. fischer & rabin 1974.
mircea_popescu: the why and wherefore be left for students from the future.
mircea_popescu: just like it - ALSO disappeared with virtually no trace.
mircea_popescu: as a curio - this was a very promising field just about the time of mit ai being a very promising field
mircea_popescu: however - that decidability has a cost, and the cost is > exponential.
mircea_popescu: (unlike peano, presburger is actually decidable. but it has no multiplication.
mircea_popescu: did a lot of work on an interesting if oft neglected part of hardness / pressburger arithmetic etc.
mircea_popescu: anyway, get his guy stuff from library, if can't be web'd (i spent a little trying to dig that one up).
mircea_popescu: basically showing that a+b < c is true or false for a, b, c in R is a harder-than-NP problem.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: jurov doesn't have to be invented in crypto to be fundamental for crypto
mircea_popescu looks forward to a time when say berman's is a fundamental theorem in crypto
mircea_popescu: so i have to leave pc overnight / rng on for ten minutes to make a key ? big whoop, i make a key a year if that, and i'm an intensive user.
mircea_popescu: quite. now 1mb IS probably too large to be useful (unless actual mathematical need/benefit for it is shown)
mircea_popescu: getting rid of one of the most idiotic constraints people-who-are-not-me put on cipher design
mircea_popescu: merely, that the "key over the wire in the jungle" aspect need not be accounted for.
mircea_popescu: (for the future, the ~ONLY way to get a key would be to ask trusted third party for it. such as hey x you know y ? send me his key!)
mircea_popescu: similarly with the key. so large key can't be sent over the wire. bwahahahaha mkay.
mircea_popescu: there are some schemes which, if the result is split, lose strength
mircea_popescu: i for instance had never read it / wouldn't care to now.