asciilifeform: which we signed. and notice, there is not such a thing there.

asciilifeform: danielpbarron: i must confess that if mircea_popescu was conducting an experiment to demonstrate the brokkenness of bitcoin, under the banner of s.nsa, he would have put it as expense in s.nsa statement.

asciilifeform: nubbins`: well danielpbarron was asking about s.nsa shareholders

asciilifeform: jurov ?

asciilifeform: any happier than the bbet ones ?

asciilifeform: danielpbarron: how do the shareholders of s.nsa feel about such a thing ?

asciilifeform: what will he say ?

asciilifeform: and let's say the chair breaks one time, and nubbins` finds out that it was because of something a bunch of subhuman scum did.

asciilifeform: every time ?

asciilifeform: nubbins` carefully inspects his chair every day before he sits down in it ?

asciilifeform: based on what mircea_popescu said in his article.

asciilifeform: again i have nfi, but this is the most parsimonious hypothesis

asciilifeform: nubbins`: default settings worked on every day prior to day x.

asciilifeform: for all i know (and i have said this) it runs on kremvax.

asciilifeform: which i know ~0 about.

asciilifeform: mpb prolly.

asciilifeform: nubbins`: if i had to guess, a1 was sent with default knobs.

asciilifeform: i hold myself responsible for some of mircea_popescu's rage. and think that it is justified. because the thing ~is~ br0k3n.

asciilifeform: not to this degree ?

asciilifeform: the way i'm reading it, he was trying to make a point, that the currency is broken (and it is), and that he refuses to be held to answer for ~it being broken~

asciilifeform: (with gold leaf.)

asciilifeform: i think he uses more than 17 btc of toilet paper whenever he shits.

asciilifeform: you think mircea_popescu actually ~needs~ the 17 for something ?

asciilifeform: why would an unprincipled mp ~not~ anonymously fill in the hole ?

asciilifeform: nubbins`: you eminently also have been.

asciilifeform: think.

asciilifeform: but he did not do this because he is a ~principled~ fella.

asciilifeform: and no one would even have noticed that any was lost.

asciilifeform: and it would have been 'donation to shareholders'

asciilifeform: nubbins`: if he had wanted to bail it out, he could have trivially - and anonymously - throw in however many coin.

asciilifeform: does it ?

asciilifeform: somehow i can't picture that 'zero asset' means 'dies if the wind farts on it'

asciilifeform: incidentally, i also have nfi how the 'zero asset' thing works. i.e., what was the plan if somehow bbet had lost x btc through some other misfortune.

asciilifeform: which i am not any good at.

asciilifeform: rather than trying to telepath.

asciilifeform: anyway i have nfi, will let mircea_popescu explain whether his chair collapsed, which pipe, if any, he grabbed, what kind of reactor coolant came out, etc.

asciilifeform: so chair collapsed and he grabbed whatever pipe was within reach.

asciilifeform: i am also sympathetic to the argument that the currency chair broke when he sat down on it and wtf.

asciilifeform: i admit that i don't see the ponzi aspect here.

asciilifeform: nubbins`: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=07-03-2016#1424847 << suggests that it was not 'behind back' but the normal operation of bbet ☝︎

asciilifeform: with whatever was in reach.

asciilifeform: nubbins`: recall, mircea_popescu said something to the effect of that he was putting out a fire.

asciilifeform: i dun get it

asciilifeform: why ponzi ?

asciilifeform: well in that case it wouldn't be 'his own money', but legit operating meat, no?

asciilifeform: or change. or whatnot.

asciilifeform: perhaps it was freshly-incoming bbet meat.

asciilifeform: actually i have no idea where B came from

asciilifeform: there is.

asciilifeform: aha

asciilifeform: because we are not in the soviet air force.

asciilifeform: there is nothing in the bbet listing concerning 'if officer blows up the reactor, he will pay for it out of his lunch money'

asciilifeform: and this is not a mega-surprise, it is quite how the 'separation between the man and the uniform' thing works.

asciilifeform: as far as i can tell.

asciilifeform: if mircea_popescu pulled the reactor control rods out because he had a drink too many, the shareholders, per the spec, have precisely two options - to forgive him, or to sell

asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-03-2016#1424835 << is important point. ☝︎

asciilifeform: so i reread the log, and,

asciilifeform: nubbins`: i think you did a perfectly fine job of putting the argument in the logz.

asciilifeform: nope.

asciilifeform: if i had to guess (why?) - say - drill.

asciilifeform: but i;m not.

asciilifeform: and yes if i were bbet shareholder i'd be going ???.

asciilifeform: anyway nubbins` i srsly have nfi why the 17 was put in as bitbet expense, ask mircea_popescu, i'm not his mother.

asciilifeform: read it, it's up

asciilifeform: nubbins`: you did not complain when mine was late ?

asciilifeform: nubbins`: idk, if this carries on, i might have to take up his offer and visit in person (and perhaps disappear into whatever gulag they put the real mircea_popescu in !1111)

asciilifeform: http://trilema.com/2014/the-hour-of-reckoning << as per.

asciilifeform: nubbins`: i'ma wait for mircea_popescu to wake up and admit he was conducting a drill.

asciilifeform: he had that muscle removed in the war.

asciilifeform: i dun think kakobrekla is congentalyl capable of worry

asciilifeform: what does kakobrekla have to say ?

asciilifeform: well that is my current understanding.

asciilifeform: l0l me?

asciilifeform: he can't simply say 'oops!'

asciilifeform: being pope is not easy.

asciilifeform: nubbins` ^

asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-02-2016#1402247 ☝︎

asciilifeform: nubbins`: recall the quantum computer thread ?

asciilifeform: they ~are~.

asciilifeform: aha.

asciilifeform: does nubbins` understand why this is a painful job ?

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu works as a pope.

asciilifeform: (or anybody ?)

asciilifeform: nubbins`: do you actually think he was trying to personally fleece you ?

asciilifeform: i got enough of that as a kid.

asciilifeform: i don't much care for them, myself.

asciilifeform: afaik pete_dushenski is this canadian fella who likes to race cars, and also occasionally reads the logz and writes summaries, in something like stalin's radio caster (levitan) voice.

asciilifeform: nubbins`: why piece of shit? i think he's a snore, and he - likely thinks i am a snore. but why the mega-rage, l0l

asciilifeform: nubbins`: fwiw pete_dushenski and i are not huge fans of one another.

asciilifeform: but it does not move the car.

asciilifeform: yes, it goes with the engine.

asciilifeform: it is like the vroom of a racing engine

asciilifeform: nubbins`: i dun think he needs the parroting for anything

asciilifeform: PeterL: not quite.

asciilifeform: or, similar example, do you know how famous sov. circus trainer kuklachev trained housecats to perform ?

asciilifeform: do you recall how it's generally done ?

asciilifeform: nubbins`: when you were a boy, didja ever lead a band of other boys to raise hell ?

asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=05-03-2016#1423312 << see also. ☝︎

asciilifeform: in his place, i would do it regularly

asciilifeform: nubbins`: it is possible that mircea_popescu is holding a drill.