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trinque:
I don't see the connection to fanaticism there
ascii_field: to wrap up the thread, when
i spoke of 'fanatic'
i was referring precisely to mircea_popescu's 'act from cause not towards purpose' maxim.
Chillum:
I try not to work too hard
ascii_field: Chillum: and if not.
i spend a vastly larger fraction of my waking hours working to pay tax than any medieval peasant in europe did.
ascii_field: trinque: this is not a question that anyone has any use for the answer of, even if
i could convincingly answer it. but otherwise - chetty has it.
ascii_field: arguably in christendom, but he did write '
i do not need that hypothesis' when asked where the place of the creator was in 'principia'
trinque: chetty: yeah but "believers in bubble"
I think
trinque: ascii_field: ah,
I am not also saying that because something's not at walmart it doesn't really exist. the market being skewed towards morons is a separate problem which needs to be solved
trinque:
I think it's fine to say the capitalist and the scientist are different men
trinque:
I am not questioning whether people solve problems simply because of the satisfaction of doing so
trinque: ascii_field: was he permitted to benefit from the fruits of his own labor, or did this belong to some all-owning state?
I am not familiar enough with Russian history to say.
trinque: mats:
I think scientists might just tend to think themselves above commerce
trinque:
I'm stating obvious facts about business which will still be true in 2198
trinque: ascii_field:
I do indeed read the logs
trinque: funkenstein_: that
I get 100%
funkenstein_:
i'm not sure
i get this "hold it all in your mind" fascination
ascii_field: the only thing
i can promise for the $trillion is: more material for the next fella to work with
Chillum: ascii_field: my point was if someone hacks my camera trigger device they can take pictures and then
I will unplug it
Chillum: mats: through the serial port you can completely rewrite the firmware... though
I suppose on the wire it may be running some spyware, but then so could anything
Chillum: not all applications call for security.
I am making a device that uses a laser to detect a falling drop of water and triggers my camera just as it is impacting in a pool
trinque: ascii_field:
I bring this up because this was a far more incremental change to the stack than you propose, and it still failed miserably
Chillum: mats:
I am going to hook it to a serial gps chip and make a tiny super low power war walker
☟︎ mats: 16:04:57 <+Chillum>
I just got an ESP8266, a $4 chip that has a microcontroller that can run either C or Lua with 512kb memory 8GPIOs and a wifi card with a high level interface. All the size of a SD card and running off 300ma(peak) at 3.3v
trinque: ascii_field | trinque: are you able to see value in the truth as an abstract ? <<
I had the opportunity to work for a guy that thought the relational database should be central to operating system design
ascii_field: funkenstein_:
i am always entertained by folks commenting 'he does not know history of computing', when themselves they do not even know most of it, because it happened on the wrong side of the atlantic
Chillum:
I am sure big brother has something better though
Chillum:
I just got an ESP8266, a $4 chip that has a microcontroller that can run either C or Lua with 512kb memory 8GPIOs and a wifi card with a high level interface. All the size of a SD card and running off 300ma(peak) at 3.3v
☟︎ ascii_field:
i assume that the discussion concerned my www site, but my points stand even if not.
trinque:
I have my doubts that a mind which believes in the will of allah produces anything of long term value
☟︎ Chillum:
I have read of Zimbabwe, Germany, Argentina
ascii_field: Chillum: the only further comment
i have for this is that you will be well-served to read up on actual scenarios resembling your hypothetical. rather then using 'zombie apocalypse' 3d shooters as a mental model.
Chillum: ascii_field:
I honestly think keeping a low profile would offer a higher chance of survival than using a lot of force.
I would carry a weapon but try my hardest not to reveal it, and use it if
I do
☟︎ Chillum: gladly
I live in an area where you could live off the land if you wanted to
ascii_field: trinque: which is why
i said 'fanatics'. folks who understand that they are human rocket stages and accept this.
trinque: funkenstein_:
I'm not saying long term projects can't exist; however,
I think they're doomed if they do not benefit the participants all along the way
☟︎ Chillum: well if
I am in a nazi camp
I would probably not benefit much from gold
mats:
i've got some food here in case of emergency but realistically
i'll be eaten before
i get to that store... too many humans per sq ft in boston.
trinque: if
I care about anything at all how could
I not care about being able to continue to care?
mats: the only thing
i'd ever bother to stockpile are bullets and natural gas
ascii_field: 'And so, the answer to the perennially annoying question “How do
I invest my money for it to survive financial, political and commercial collapse?” is this: “There is no answer to your question. Try asking a different question, to which there might be an answer.”'
☟︎ Chillum:
I agree it does not prepare for some unprecedented level of collapse
trinque:
I give ample shits about what happens to my own hide
ascii_field: Chillum: where do
i leech 50 yrs of free time and a semiconductor plant ?
ascii_field: because the only approach that
i believe to be correct, will result in something tangible only long after we are all dead.
☟︎ trinque: say
I'm the firewall company,
I'd not only make my thing,
I'd spend money punching holes in everyone else's products all day
☟︎ ascii_field: trinque: again can't speak for you, but
i can't create the customer any more than can create the weather.
☟︎ funkenstein_: and the payee decides what that means
i suppose?
ascii_field: trinque: not like
i need any of it for anything elsewhere
trinque: ascii_field: yeah, plus maybe signing away certain rights to what you produce? (
I'd hope not, but it's common)
ascii_field: trinque:
i presently do something very vaguely similar to what you suggested, working for something that could be described as an antivirus firm. and it eats most of my stamina.
ascii_field: trinque:
i can't speak for you, but
i cannot build anything whatsoever in my sleep.
ascii_field: trinque: this fails because the subject of the thread is - as
i firmly believe - necessarily the work of -one mind.-
Chillum:
I wish
I had a satoshi for everything in the channel that was required reading
☟︎ Chillum: unless people find out you have it...
I really shgould not be telling you guys about my gold!
Chillum:
I suppose you can make gruel from wheat
Chillum:
I am not sure that happened during the Zimbabwe collapse
Chillum:
I don't know why you think it is absurd for a large number of people to be able to pull enough gold out of the ground to get an air drop
ascii_field: Chillum: the entire exercise is what
i call a 'bear suit'
☟︎ Chillum:
I have a bag of damaged rings, half a pair of earrings, links that sort of stuff
Chillum: not that
I trust SDBs for more than a backup stash
Chillum:
I read that the banks stopped serving accounts but still operated safe deposit boxes
Chillum:
I read a journal from a woman in Germany when they had their hyperinflation. She was selling the links from her gold chain one at a time
Chillum:
I have not personally experienced such a situation
Chillum:
I know during the collapse in Zimbabwe people went to the rivers to collect gold dust and pooled it to have food flown in from out of country
mircea_popescu:
i am perhaps the only one here that has actually gone through a collapse, and if that's worth for anything - goods aren't helpful.
Chillum:
I prefer to deal with other types of people
Chillum: the only drugs
I am stocking are antibiotics
gabriel_laddel: ascii_field:
I'll note that without comprehensive design documents others have to retrace your steps entirely and anyone who is a fan of your work is running on grey goo pipe dreams.
Chillum: so unless they are taken away or destroyed
I will have something
Chillum: well
I have a stash of low wattage computers and some solar panels
Chillum:
I predict that in 25 years computer software will be full of bugs and vulnerabilities
mircea_popescu: ascii_field> and
i could have easily built all of this by 25 y.o. <<
ascii_field: but that
i knew precisely what must be done to make a computer a tolerable thing, most of a decade ago.
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: largely because
i am not mircea_popescu and not in control of the variables.
ascii_field: and
i could have easily built all of this by 25 y.o. if martians had landed and given me the means.
mircea_popescu: but
i have no doubt this is correct, chiefly because that';s how the brain works.
ascii_field: nor am
i especially interested in building yet another computer with passive memory.
gabriel_laddel: ascii_field: o.
I thought that you could if they have an entirely known design?
gabriel_laddel:
I can't remember your exact words, but
I think you said in here once "my time would have been better spent putting together a demo than blogging"
gabriel_laddel: ascii_field: we've already discussed this.
I'm for doing it piecemeal because there are no other options.
gabriel_laddel: ascii_field: Sometime in the next 48 hours
I'm going to drop some information in here regarding the #b-a distro, and when finished with that move on to finding funding again.
ascii_field:
i will confess that it took me retardedly long time to understand that my hypothetical rebellion against the soup cannot be funded or organized for some very fundamental reasons
ascii_field:
i've been fighting a largely losing battle for many years, attempting to convince folks to imagine - in their spare time - that a computer is not necessarily von neumann and the 50 yrs of shit soup
gabriel_laddel: ^
I never would have thought of presentation systems unless
I happened upon ascii_field's blog.
mircea_popescu: gabriel_laddel you're on very slippery ice sheet there.
i'll save you the egg and point out that you can't form an apriori representation of why X model is no good.
ascii_field: what
i am speaking of is the effect
i observed where folks learn to like fundamentally uninteresting concepts.
gabriel_laddel: Urbit is probably a good example for what
I think stas is discussing. You can get paid very well so long as you are very active doing nothing.
ascii_field:
i'm not yet sold on the fact of that boy's existence being more fun than american jail.
ascii_field: this is why
i often say that in buenos aires
i would have to learn shoemaking or the like
ascii_field: the real reason
i will not compete with the 16 y.o. is not stamina per se, but that
i cannot trick my brain into actually caring