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asciilifeform: 'ok, ctrl-c? i'll assume you meant the last of the 9000 jobs you just spawned, right'
asciilifeform: witness also, how unitardix makes 0 distinguish b/w operator- and mechanism- initiated processes
asciilifeform: e.g. you ctrl-c and it nukes ~child~ of process however many layers deep, as in hanbot's example, and instead of propagating the kill up the tree, 'returns' barf uptree
asciilifeform: whole concept of 'current task' is perlesque liquishit
asciilifeform: errything else seems to require fiddling.
asciilifeform: most complicated mechanism i ever used that 'works' , in light of mircea_popescu's concept thereof, is.. idk, kalash
asciilifeform: 'killer micro'(tm) never 'worked' arguably.
asciilifeform: ( the subj of microshit, i'll spare, tho could expound.. )
asciilifeform: tho it aint clear to me than the e.g. crapple rituals, make any moar sense
asciilifeform: hanbot: mine are min. of 1m apart always, for this reason. this dun mean that mircea_popescu is wrong tho, re opensores.
asciilifeform: *blockade
asciilifeform: prior to usg-engineered 'international' blockage, ~north~ was the industrial kr.
asciilifeform: ( how do you suppose korea ended up korea )
asciilifeform: very korea
asciilifeform: lol she has mains current ? potato battery ?
asciilifeform: oh hey BingoBoingo how didja get her out of vuvuzelistan ?
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-03-08#1900966 << not clear to me that 'isms' are in play : afaik it's moar of the thing where the anglos have same relation to other folx as worm to apple ☝︎
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-03-08#1900962 << near as i could tell, subj is a kind of http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-03#1693150 , i.e. junkyard dog ☝︎☝︎
asciilifeform: guten tag mircea_popescu !
asciilifeform: the obv hypothesis is that the gnutards ended up happy with the position where 'priesthood' builds kernels and users blindly eat the binaries, etc ☟︎
asciilifeform: why linus et al did not supply a ready-built http://btcbase.org/log/2019-03-08#1900938 util, remains a mystery to asciilifeform , just as he found it mystery in '90s ☝︎☟︎
asciilifeform: sadly it's how the current ball o'crapola worx.
asciilifeform: since mircea_popescu is asleep, i'ma 'fill in' for him and note ftr that the necessity for this process is indeed a warcrime of the gnutards, and really not how sane configurator of any kind oughta work
asciilifeform: ( i.e. it ~may~ end up containing useless modules, that you will later want to cut out, but ~will~ contain the necessaries given in the supplied config )
asciilifeform: hanbot: if it ends up asking you q's , like prev. time, feel free to press 'enter' and let it give the default answers -- they come from the existing config (when available) and from default of the given kernel's (if not) . this generally gives bootable kernel, that you can trim later at your leisure.
asciilifeform: hanbot: lemme know if you run into barf
asciilifeform: ( and of course the snsa-operated dulap )
asciilifeform: all pizarro-owned x86 boxen in the rack, are currently using this config
asciilifeform: ( trimmed manually )
asciilifeform: hanbot: see if you can build using http://nosuchlabs.com/pub/conf_current.conf , it is an asciilifeform-sewn config for the specific iron you happen to be on ☟︎
asciilifeform: ( if you were to take trinque's example config, your kernel will boot but will panic when looks for root partition, as it won't find that iron's raid card )
asciilifeform: iirc trinque had an experimental proggy that takes a running kernel's lspci / lsmod output, and diddles an existing config so as to give a kernel that boots on $iron . but afaik not yet published. ☟︎
asciilifeform: this is prolly not an answr that will make hanbot happy. the only good news is, this only gotta be done 1ce per kernel-iron combo. ☟︎
asciilifeform: then manually walk over the result
asciilifeform: the way i handle this , is when building kernel with an older config, i use the menuconfig util, and have it eat the prev config
asciilifeform: ( this is to be brought up at linus's impalement )
asciilifeform: and, annoyingly, won't say which.
asciilifeform: hanbot: that answers it then. that one contains some flag that trinque's kernel has nfi what to do with. ☟︎
asciilifeform: so he took the 'simpler evil'
asciilifeform: lobbes_field: imho it's an asinine default behaviour of linus's builder ; tho the alternative ( build a ball of ??? that fails to boot ) may be equally asinine
asciilifeform: !!up lobbes_field
asciilifeform: where did the copied one come from orig.?
asciilifeform: 'found I could replicate mod6's process of copying the .config file in /usr/src/linux into the cuntoo/config directory' suggests that this build was using a non-trinqueian .config ?
asciilifeform: hanbot: did you perchance hand-tune something in that config prior to building kernel ?
asciilifeform: nao what i do not know, is how this scenario can play out using trinque's cuntoo kit -- iirc he includes both a particular kernel source and a config (for 1 of his irons) that was known to be edible by it
asciilifeform: it sees sumthing unexpected, and switches to manual derpery
asciilifeform: hanbot: this also happens when you used a config baked for a certain kernel, but then feed it to another (usually moar recent) kernel's make
asciilifeform: hanbot: i can tell you ~what~ you saw, tho not yet why : the linux kernel make starts asking itemized config q's if it sees sumthing in the given config that dun add up to something 'menuconfig' could have shat out, by its lights ( e.g. a module for $device is enabled, but 1 of its deps aint )
asciilifeform: 'US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo said Maduro’s government only has itself to blame for power shortages in Venezuela, noting sarcastically that “Maduro’s policies bring nothing but darkness.”' << lol!! ☟︎
asciilifeform: humanitarian(tm)(r) democratic(tm)(r) sabotage
asciilifeform: seems to be in medical school or sumthing like.
asciilifeform: in other noose, adlai apparently sobered up, and blogs, http://80.244.243.194:7421
asciilifeform bbl, meat
asciilifeform: on the uy1, that is ^
asciilifeform: ( and/or log in via your shell acct , where you know the host key already )
asciilifeform: morrow
asciilifeform: hanbot: if you're concerned re mitm, ask BingoBoingo to log in via console and gpg you the current hostkey to
asciilifeform: hanbot: it's a livecd, naturally regens host key erry time you revv it up
asciilifeform: meanwhile, in 'men alone', https://www.floodgap.com/etc/machines.html ☟︎
asciilifeform: 'karatekas are cover for nazis' etc ☟︎
asciilifeform: was, incidentally, the Official excuse behind the http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-30#1891016 ban ☝︎
asciilifeform: only beelzebub knows for fact.
asciilifeform: some folx think all of this summed to 0 ; others -- 'to dead sovok'
asciilifeform: ... and tito! ( + buncha other figures painted in sovok propaganda as 'devils' )
asciilifeform: in '50s, 'punk' kidz 'heiled' not only hitler, but... eisenhauer.
asciilifeform: https://archive.is/ymXhV << imho most complete / least obv. bogus src. on subj.
asciilifeform: ( tbf most of the surviving evidence is on the level of rumour and innuendo )
asciilifeform: there were rumours of other, similar escapades.
asciilifeform: ( item was hushed up, best as they could , fathers demoted, sons sent to army , etc )
asciilifeform: buncha kids, mostly of local party elite, seekritly sewed themselves some semblance of ss uniform, and raised swastica flag at night on city hall; then marched to cemetery and laid half a tonne of flowers on old white army graves ☟︎
asciilifeform: reminds me of a famous (in the right circles) incident in su, in 1981
asciilifeform: lol that's the school obummer sent his spawn to
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i expect it'll go approx like the at&t phone tap lawsuit -- usg invokes 'sovereign immunity' and that's it
asciilifeform: i have nfi how and why putting sumthing through a column is patentable. but it aint any odder than the rest of that racket.
asciilifeform: 'enantiomeric' patent -- cheapest trick in that box ☟︎
asciilifeform: 'it is likely that esketamine treatments will be covered by insurance and that it will have fewer side effects than ketamine' << the main 'side effect' was not being patentable, lol
asciilifeform: 'The drug, developed by Johnson & Johnson’s Janssen subsidiary, is intended to be used with another antidepressant, and only by people who have already tried two and don’t feel better' << lol, 'approved' so long as dun threaten ye olde chemlobotomy racket
asciilifeform: asciilifeform did not go, and to this day i have nfi how many takers
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: ketamine, lol! when asciilifeform was research slave for us army, they were offering comparatively impressive sums (coupla thou) to anyone willing to take ketamine and run labyrinths / do various puzzlers
asciilifeform gets spanish spamola by the gigatonne, since signing up for acct there
asciilifeform: unsurprising, afaik mainly is used by miamihajis, to send orcbux home
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: seems like wu worx, but only from usa..?
asciilifeform: oblig 'is that a real program, or is that something somebody wrote?'(tm)(r)
asciilifeform: i gotta try this item
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-03-07#1900826 << this is pretty interesting to asciilifeform ; believe or not, i've never used automatic log eater, all of my stats since i 1st had a www, go through unspeakable handwritten perlisms ☝︎
asciilifeform happy to be of use.
asciilifeform: ty mircea_popescu
asciilifeform brb,tea
asciilifeform: 4.99 / 3247 ~= 0.00153680
asciilifeform: danke schon BingoBoingo
asciilifeform: i'm still waking up, coming up empty when digging
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: can you link to the last known figure plox ?
asciilifeform: hm do we have an automated knob for this yet
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: np, enjoy
asciilifeform: exactly the quoted sum
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i'ma log out, then see if went.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: seems to have worked.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: ok, lessee..
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i'll do it if it's a normal pp , but if it's like the last one it prolly won't work from my machine
asciilifeform: hard to picture an easier coin than this, but aite