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asciilifeform: diana_coman: the line_request one is sporadic ( erry dozen or so runs )
diana_coman: asciilifeform, I get as I recalled this "[63939.499700] pl2303 ttyUSB0: usb_serial_generic_read_bulk_callback - urb stopped: -32" but I don't see the others, hmm
asciilifeform: diana_coman: do you observe same on your box ?
asciilifeform: [8621835.463377] pl2303 ttyUSB0: usb_serial_generic_read_bulk_callback - urb stopped: -32
asciilifeform: [8621835.122919] pl2303 ttyUSB0: pl2303_set_line_request - failed: -32
asciilifeform: [8621835.122044] pl2303 ttyUSB0: pl2303_get_line_request - failed: -110
asciilifeform: btw, diana_coman , mircea_popescu , there's visible sys log barf from pl2303 when operating diana_coman's test :
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, read on for...deeper uncovered shit
asciilifeform: i'ma let mircea_popescu say, whether Right Thing is to start with (2) and proceed to (1), or straight to (1) .
asciilifeform: diana_coman: further pl2303 mod lulz, https://archive.is/CefaN
asciilifeform: diana_coman: i confirmed ( coupla dozen shots ) hang only ever takes place on 1st read() after open().
asciilifeform: diana_coman: lulzily, turns out that our horror show is not unknown, https://archive.fo/kRfZy ( spoiler: none of the proposed pills, have any effect
asciilifeform: diana_coman: i'ma have to do a detailed dig in re the linux tty thing. but this could take a while, and no guarantee of finding culprit in the 100s of MB of open sores liquishit. so you will need the buffer+timeout thing, i suspect.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: ok, finally managed to get a stuck dd
diana_coman: hence my diana_coman> dd seems to be more resilient but I suspect it's mainly because it's not that sort of little&frequent
asciilifeform: diana_coman: what was the exact process for dd hang ?
asciilifeform: diana_coman: i've built eucrypt and replicated your hang
diana_coman: BingoBoingo, thanks! confirmed back on + 1 fg available; unfortunately the simple test from smg_rsa (./tests 11 11 ) still hangs
mircea_popescu is looking at ben_vulpes talking to himself, shakes head.
douchebag: ben_vulpes: I understand we disagree on that, however I'm trying to make money - I don't see how hosting rockchips that are overpriced is going to generate revenue in the long term.
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> mod6 do you need it or something ? << Not at all, Sir. I was going to let it expire indeed.
asciilifeform: ( i recall a trilema article where mircea_popescu actually walked fleanode looking for signs of life, found ~0 )
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform and i'll bet you whatever you want that much like the #lisp morons failiong to realise what candi_lustt is ; so #linux-whjatever will fail to realise why #trilema doesn't have a problem, and what a voice model is, and what EXACTLY it means to be the intellectual inferior.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: spambot, spammed '9000' unmoderated chans
mod6: The one that mircea_popescu rented for douchebag doesn't expire until the 19th iirc. I'll update you on that one. Unless mircea_popescu says to nuke it ahead of time.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: note, not in the i-dun-give-half-a-fuck-what-it-costs market, either
BingoBoingo: diana_coman: Machine is ready, both cables swapped, but only one FUCKGOAT plugged in.
BingoBoingo: Will have it ready <diana_coman> BingoBoingo, do you know whether smg main server has the black snake cables or what? << It does.
BingoBoingo: <diana_coman> BingoBoingo, do you need me to shut down the box? << I will if you want me to pull it to swap cables.
asciilifeform: goodnight diana_coman
a111: Logged on 2018-07-31 15:49 diana_coman: asciilifeform, yes, get eucrypt and run the tests for smg_rsa, something like ./tests 11 11 (i.e. 11 times test no 11)
asciilifeform: diana_coman: is http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-31#1838330 an exact description of the test ? ☝︎
asciilifeform: diana_coman: ftr i am still on the lookout for anything like a practicable replacement for pl2303
asciilifeform: diana_coman: i'm gonna try and replicate here in the torture room, with your proggy -- i have both cable types here
a111: Logged on 2018-07-31 19:57 diana_coman: asciilifeform, that tip says problems handling more than 2 but I have...2?
BingoBoingo: <diana_coman> BingoBoingo, how long would it take to get there and unplug one of the FG to have a test with only one? << I could go there and be back witing an hour
asciilifeform: diana_coman: does your boot-time sh init both dongles currently ?
a111: Logged on 2018-07-12 13:49 diana_coman: asciilifeform, BingoBoingo access to box & config confirmed; FG on ttysUSB0 had a wobble at first and I don't understand why: I ran the stty -F /dev/ttyUSB0 115200 raw -echo -echoe -echok and then tried dd iflag=fullblock if=/dev/ttyUSB0 | hexdump -C but nothing came up; then I ran the stty on usb1 as well and tried again and it...worked; any idea wtf was that at first?
a111: Logged on 2016-08-27 15:03 mircea_popescu: "if i make it what i think it should be it crashes"
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: happened to me '9000' times when testing FG, and earlier iron.
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, ahaha dadatroll; but now I see why it didn't even ring a bell at all as I probably missed the comments section there/didn't follow it
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the astonishing bit isn't even that system5 unix had this nonsense, but that the linux derps faithfully re-created it.
BingoBoingo: <diana_coman> basically if I don't manage to reproduce it on any other machine, it would seem it's potentially to do with that specific system << Let me know if you want a pair of hands.
mircea_popescu: diana_coman http://trilema.com/2010/o-institutie-culturala/#comment-21292 << found!
phf: diana_coman: we will take credit for it (also we'll take retroactive credit for the frequent mysterious reboots of asciilifeform's machines)
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, I don't recall it but sounds apt (as dr. a does wherever I read him)
mircea_popescu: diana_coman do you recall that lulz btw ? "nu-i ardelean, n-are rabdare adevarata, ii emulata-n soft"
phf: mircea_popescu: to be honest i didn't read into it past the roleplaying humor, but upon immediate reflection, your objection makes equally obvious sense
phf: mircea_popescu: well, we had conversations about esoteric societies in the past, and there's a reason for why the logs are public and everything that follows
a111: Logged on 2014-11-30 06:31 mircea_popescu: like the stuff discussed above re usg agency redhat, fuycking up linux. EXACTLY the stiuation of the giant ruining a chair.
a111: Logged on 2018-06-20 20:33 ben_vulpes: diana_coman: why does it need to be wholly separate machine? i think something might have flown over my head
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, well, it *does* answer that question: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-20#1827889 ☝︎
phf: mircea_popescu: it's an adam wieshaupt quote, and i take its meaning to be in line with the stereotypes about his organization, control through influence rather than direct domination
diana_coman: so, the set_usb_attributes was commented out; I cleaned everything and did a fresh build; ran the tests and... it read 3 octets and then it blocked
asciilifeform: diana_coman: when these are stuck, how do you kill'em ?
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/patches/eucrypt_manifest/tree/eucrypt/smg_rsa/truerandom.c#L65 << incidentally this is erroneous. a correctly-inited FG will never produce interrupt ( the tty ~must not~ interpret 0x03 as control char, it must return all octets verbatim )
diana_coman: asciilifeform, I commented out the set_usb_attributes so basically it opens and calls fcntl to make it blocking but that's it; it took a bit longer to get stuck but it still did
asciilifeform: diana_coman: comment out the init, and fire a shot.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: can almost certainly rule out iron problem then
phf: diana_coman: haven't had problems with usb reads, i've struggled with getting octets across ffi boundary before, which is probably what you're remembering re my work
asciilifeform: from my current reading of diana_coman's code, the only major diff b/w the official manual's test scenario, and diana_coman's, is the init thing.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: i agree, this kind of thing is absolutely impermissible, and gotta get to the bottom of it.
BingoBoingo: diana_coman asciilifeform: We did recieve a pile of new USB ttl cables. Swapping the cables for fresh ones is a troubleshooting option.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/patches/eucrypt_manifest/tree/eucrypt/smg_rsa/truerandom.c#L84 << seems like you re-init the usb dongle every time you read. this is not recommended, i've encountered a chinese ttl plug that wedges if you init it one too many times
asciilifeform: diana_coman: see if you get same horror on the old, non-musl box
asciilifeform: diana_coman: is http://btcbase.org/patches/eucrypt_manifest/tree/ current ?
diana_coman: asciilifeform, smg_rsa/truerandom.c does the whole stuff really
asciilifeform: diana_coman: plz show me where you init
diana_coman: asciilifeform, yes, get eucrypt and run the tests for smg_rsa, something like ./tests 11 11 (i.e. 11 times test no 11) ☟︎
asciilifeform: diana_coman: is this using the code currently published in dianacoman.com ?
asciilifeform: diana_coman: start by making sure you don't have multiple instances reading
asciilifeform: diana_coman: this is immediately interesting and i'd like to replicate
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: very old noose: e.g. http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-24#1775301 ( he replaces all mentions of #trilema with '#fraudsters', and of mircea_popescu with something or other, i fughet, and possibly other substs ) ☝︎
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/patches/ffa_ch11_tuning_and_api << for the l0gz.
a111: Logged on 2016-03-28 13:11 mircea_popescu: and so, this is the end for this particular irc channel as a venue for tmsr. the irc festivities are moving over to #trilema ; with a more selective lordship list and improved tools all around. you're welcome to join - but leave the fiat mind behind, lest it drag you too back down into the swamp.
a111: Logged on 2018-07-29 16:12 mircea_popescu is actually quite curious if esthlos managed to do two days yest :D
asciilifeform: meanwhile, in resurrected vintage lulz, http://btcbase.org/log/2014-03-18#564709 >>> http://s3.eurecom.fr/tools/screaming_channels/ ( tldr -- public demo of seekrit bitz recovery from parasitic passthrough rf ) ☝︎
lobbesbot: mircea_popescu: 0.00243902439024
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i'll do it, plox to gpg.
a111: Logged on 2018-07-30 00:21 mircea_popescu: and steam excavators to dig them.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: to round off prev thread , http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-30#1838243 is exactly it -- i'd prefer 'steam' waiters too, if these existed ! somehow asciilifeform is 100% blind to the 'feeling served' pleasure. i like work to happen, dun much care how, and steam beats meat just about erry time. ☝︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i have nfi in what shithole the d00d in the clip lives, even here there is kerosene.
a111: Logged on 2018-07-28 12:22 diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-27#1838045 -> thanks, paid
a111: Logged on 2018-07-24 16:31 asciilifeform: it went approx like this, iirc some time in 2016 : asciilifeform : 'if quality slavegurlz can be trained to do anything , mircea_popescu couldja spare 1 or 2 for ada battallion ' mircea_popescu : 'hell no, why would i waste any on such a thing; what next, i will ask asciilifeform to do field work detail in their place ? '
asciilifeform: i thought mircea_popescu brought own servant hands errywhere
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: so the appeal of cr -- the climate, the iguanas ?
a111: Logged on 2018-07-29 14:08 phf: i think mircea_popescu benefits the more virginal the peasants are around him. easier to source untainted (?) bulk meat of four legged and two legged kind
a111: Logged on 2018-07-29 14:03 asciilifeform: asciilifeform's puzzler is , re how mircea_popescu gave verdict 'argentines are subhuman' but then moves closer to equator, where monkeys , and somehow there - 'not subhuman'
a111: Logged on 2018-07-29 13:43 phf: asciilifeform: that's not a fair comparison, if nothing else gulag still was _men_ wrestling raw matter from the earth in extreme environmental conditions, and succeeding. whatever limited technological support they had had to work reliably and achieve some kind of objective
asciilifeform: diana_coman: i can see this pov. fwiw my emulated mircea_popescu says : 'if ameritards were given their just deserts per their actual productivity, they would then lack not only their gas stove, but would not even have primus'
phf: i think mircea_popescu benefits the more virginal the peasants are around him. easier to source untainted (?) bulk meat of four legged and two legged kind ☟︎
asciilifeform: asciilifeform's puzzler is , re how mircea_popescu gave verdict 'argentines are subhuman' but then moves closer to equator, where monkeys , and somehow there - 'not subhuman' ☟︎
phf: asciilifeform: that's not a fair comparison, if nothing else gulag still was _men_ wrestling raw matter from the earth in extreme environmental conditions, and succeeding. whatever limited technological support they had had to work reliably and achieve some kind of objective ☟︎
BingoBoingo: In other news, pete_d's new blog header has him with a Elon Musk branded weeding torch http://www.contravex.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/contravex-not-a-flamethrower-header.jpeg
a111: Logged on 2018-07-28 18:27 mircea_popescu: lobbes oh i see what happened, so basically you went "shit, i'll do this auction fix thing once i get the whole bot rewritten".
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: or possibly the ordinary bureaucratic tunnel vision ( ~100% of 'pirate' of commercial interest to usa 'music' cartels lives precisely in the 'plebe fm' range specified )
a111: Logged on 2018-07-28 16:43 mircea_popescu: speaking of nothing in particular, i'd say erryone who hasn't read http://trilema.com/2016/the-herd-of-independent-minds-or-has-the-avantgarde-its-own-mass-culture/ should prolly do that now.
a111: Logged on 2017-08-03 18:20 mircea_popescu: how did the poet put it, "the writing head does write, and having writ, moves on
a111: Logged on 2015-01-21 01:37 mircea_popescu: very common problem people have on the internet, the "everyone is as stupid as me / everyone's a goat the same gender and age as me" issue.
a111: Logged on 2018-07-27 18:03 mod6: !!invoice diana_coman 0.14485298 Invoice for one year of Rockchip + FG