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mircea_popescu: hm. and you have these two running on the same machine, or within a local net ?
mircea_popescu: no, the "core"
mircea_popescu: what version is this ?
mircea_popescu: -addnode ?
mircea_popescu: people didn't use to split coinbases because they preferred to sell them, for 103% or w/e.
mircea_popescu: or not is dubious, but that aside pirate's gpumax certainly played a major early role.
mircea_popescu: adlai there's some historical charge in there : bitcoin's first and largest ponzi ran a "mining" whatever, for the obvious and transparent purpose of acquiring freshly minted coins to pay out the idiot "investors". this was a major contributor to the early crystalisation of what came to be known later as "mining pools" which is what eventually in due time coallesced into today's problem. whether it was avoidable at all
mircea_popescu: so yes, for the sake of keeping the record straight - it is not possible for miners to include my (high-S, btw!) txn in blocks within 2:55 if in fact running a chain head delayed reporting scheme. either it got turned off or it never existed in the first place, anyone's call.
mircea_popescu: this is novel, even for 600byte txn with above-average fees and 10^10 size inputs aged halfyear+
mircea_popescu: check it out, 3 minute inclusion.
mircea_popescu: jurov approved.
mircea_popescu: hence my question :)
mircea_popescu: ...
mircea_popescu: !s marketmaking from:jurov
mircea_popescu: davout whatever happened to xeur bot yest
mircea_popescu: and welcome to the wonder of halfway logs. sigh.
mircea_popescu: believe it or not IN FUCKING MARCH the spanyards do not yet rightly know whether that fucktard won or not the december election.
mircea_popescu: not to even speak of https://bitbet.us/bet/1185/mariano-rajoy-to-remain-pm-of-spain-after/
mircea_popescu: alrighty. so then it waits.
mircea_popescu: is there a good source to document how you convert from these ?
mircea_popescu: in more practical news - jurov here's one for you. https://bitbet.us/bet/1247/parties-smer-sd-and-sns-to-win-supermajority-in/ is to be resolved. problem is the res source gives vote % and not a word re seats, and the bet is re seats. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: plenty o' room for idea guys all over the webs.
mircea_popescu: if i wanted to talk to redditards i'd make a reddit account.
mircea_popescu: you'll be on my ignore list. if you actually have something to say find a lord to play telephone, but ideally spare me.
mircea_popescu: !v assbot:mircea_popescu.rate.nubbins`.-1:2f86f1e0d27e296c65d393c3735b6596cc002265d63e3fc387f97968b5b46f24
mircea_popescu: !rate nubbins` -1 more or less shoemaker insistent on derping above the crepidam. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: sturle's theory fell apart upon examination in chan. ☟︎☟︎☟︎☟︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: there's no "logical rebuttal". you have some facts, go write a theory. maybe i'll bother reading it. seeing who it comes from, probably not. that's all.
mircea_popescu: dude... seriously, stick to printing or w/e it is you understand.
mircea_popescu: whatever. keep your ideas, i don't want them nor do they carry any value.
mircea_popescu: apparently the way the internet works [according to idiots] is that one guy that knows about things by virtue of being one of the guys that actually do things describes some facts, and is now obliged to entertain the half-baked idiocy of any random opiner.
mircea_popescu: right.
mircea_popescu: that made no sense. try again using meaningful words this time.
mircea_popescu: ...
mircea_popescu: because a1 was still around 4 days later ? whyssat ?
mircea_popescu: so a1 blocked a2, 3 and 4 because it sat in pool for 8 days because reasons ?
mircea_popescu: so a1 blocked a2, then a2 blocked a3 then a3 blocked a4 ?
mircea_popescu: we're talking about ~8 days.
mircea_popescu: the facts are there, write your explanation for them and spare me.
mircea_popescu: w/e.
mircea_popescu: as opposed to "here is what i opine - i know all about huffing glue because, practically speaking, it's what i do all day".
mircea_popescu: nubbins` we had this thread. make your own theory, CROSSING ALL THE POINTS.
mircea_popescu: nubbins`> all will be discarded because A1 is waiting for the cheap seats << except the part where these nodes would also advertise it, which they didn't do. and except for the part where nodes that keep txn forever are am yth. and except for anything actually to do with reality, as opposed to some cartoon someone saw last year on tedspeak or w/e.
mircea_popescu: i'm sure it'll bring greatness to canada or w/e.
mircea_popescu: but congrats on being the nth lazy thinker who has a simple theory in his head, cut ~80% of the facts or so that fit it, and is ready to reddit about the matter.
mircea_popescu: nubbins`> http://qntra.net/2016/03/a-miner-problem/#comment-47702 << FTR i thought this was obv the case << because it's neither obvious nor the case.
mircea_popescu: check it out - someone is using lisp for something!
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/jurov-slime.png < jurov asciilifeform phf and other lisp aficionados. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: the two buck bitcoin fork.,
mircea_popescu: aha
mircea_popescu: and in other bitcoin news, http://40.media.tumblr.com/17e2293db4434f81bc5aa68d643c8c85/tumblr_mgs749gbFs1qlne6uo1_1280.jpg
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-03-2016#1423705 << not all can bee-dog like the pros! ☝︎
mircea_popescu: kinda bizarre.
mircea_popescu: oh
mircea_popescu: http://qntra.net/2016/03/frontier-county-prosecutor-alleges-circle-jerk-iphone-carries-cyber-pathogens/
mircea_popescu: but i mean.. what shooting ? what ?
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo i must confess i don't get the latest qntra. wut ?
mircea_popescu: anyway, the weather in b-a fixed itself, tis very pleasant, the steaks still here, by all means.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-03-2016#1424138 << yeah but learn a good programming. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-03-2016#1424127 << this would be correct. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: the joke being of course that any serious designer is exactly a bee-dog.
mircea_popescu: somehow it became a term of endearment for alf and especially alfisms.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-03-2016#1424125 << bee-dog was originally a joke re very summary vision (because bees see large pixels and dogs don't see colors). see : http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=24-02-2016#1413916 ☝︎☝︎
mircea_popescu: yeah, not exactly wise.
mircea_popescu: this is good for bitcoin.
mircea_popescu: later.
mircea_popescu: not a question to be handwaved away.
mircea_popescu: still do for most applications.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform because convention. why do i imagine putting girl on knees is humiliating ?
mircea_popescu: money IS. whether it'll ever be what it ought or not - welll, that's what engineers are for.
mircea_popescu: not a question of ought, a question of is.
mircea_popescu: many questions remain, but the discussion has been interesting.
mircea_popescu: what are you, satoshi ? plox no dumbo.
mircea_popescu: pfff.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform so i'd have to constantly see this.
mircea_popescu: pff.
mircea_popescu: ;;google biulbiul fatme
mircea_popescu: ;;search biulbiul fatme
mircea_popescu: because if biulbiul has an argument with fatme, i am still fucking both.
mircea_popescu: try another : every morning when i wake up now, i read the log. this, i like. if i were using your coin, every morning when i woke up, i would conceivably be greeted by a list of notifications : "group X has now split. in five. would you like to name the shards or ignore the shards, for each shard ?"
mircea_popescu: perhaps. let us leave this very dark tunnel for now.
mircea_popescu: or is it "in everyone's view" ?
mircea_popescu: so you're going to bake in a magic number which is the largest number of groups that may ever exist in anyone's view
mircea_popescu: (notwithstanding all the idiots who "read" the code - it is there, specified. de facto, irrespective of intention, and besides the guy's intentions scarcely either made sense or made it into practice.)
mircea_popescu: up to 1mb.
mircea_popescu: and you can not specify the bytesize of this item.
mircea_popescu: so then. what do i do with the 5btc ?
mircea_popescu: i dunno about your or anyone else's experience, but i personally have spent my entire life to date in the company of people whose takes were fundamentally irreconcilable. ever since a wee tyke doing double time between the upper crups exclusive school and the criminal underworld.
mircea_popescu: so why would it require they "agree" ?
mircea_popescu: what did you think i meant ?
mircea_popescu: <mircea_popescu> purely for exploratory reasons - how far are you willing to take the gossipd ? << how about quantum money ?
mircea_popescu: and why would they reconcile ever if they met ? have you seen nude women together before ?
mircea_popescu: why would they ever meet ? they're not meeting. ask your pet.
mircea_popescu: now the chains are split.
mircea_popescu: because B mined on the basis of the chain that it saw ; and A idem. there's no guarantee these would stay coherent, and so they didn';t.
mircea_popescu: not being a superposition of eigenstates myself, but a resolved one, i can't both credit and not credit the 5btc. would seem i have to choose one.
mircea_popescu: at all.
mircea_popescu: huh ?
mircea_popescu: now - person X comes to me with a 5 BTC which he wants to spend on milk. B sees the 5 as valid ; A, as invalid. i know both A and B. does this mean i have to choose ?
mircea_popescu: ok, take the nonsense practically : there's A, as illustrated yesterday, the group of six nude ladies ; there's B, b-a. i hope you folks aren't nude atm ?