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phf: mod6: well, lets say you have something like mutt open with the current email. it's pretty easy to write a script that takes current email and feeds it to an external script, that splits out patch, verifies it with the provided sig, and then applies it to the codebase (or pushes it into some queue of patches as a case may be). i.e. you read the email, push "p" to do everything for you, and then move on to the next email ☟︎
mod6: plus, create a How-To guide. Both of which need updating for the flurry of recent patches that have been submitted. Just haven't had a chance yet.
mod6: <+phf> the process was needlessly complicated since my mail client lets me do a bunch of those steps (patching, gpg verifying, etc) with a single key, so if i had an mbox, i could just import it, and then use a more familiar interface << so, what I've done in the past was; create a perl script that pulls down and verifies all the patches and applies them to a common baseline.
mod6: ahh. im not sure i remember mbox. and yeah, the whole thing is a bit... unwieldly
phf: the process was needlessly complicated since my mail client lets me do a bunch of those steps (patching, gpg verifying, etc) with a single key, so if i had an mbox, i could just import it, and then use a more familiar interface
phf: mod6: i don't necessarily have problems, i have a bitcoind with all the patches up to eatblock (haven't looked at stator yet, but then i'm building with enemy tools). the way i assembled patches is by reading through web archive and saving/verifying each patch as i saw it
mod6: heh, this boost compile is taking a while, because i'm also syncing at the same time haha
mod6: I'm creating a log of this, and will post for everyone to look at once complete.
BingoBoingo: On that note, I'll brb in a few units of time.
mod6: I will work on a patch list and maybe a script later this month. It is a bit hard to follow. ☟︎
mod6: So a bunch have patches have been submitted in the last month. A read through each of the emails is kindof required at this point because they all have specific instructions and dependantcies.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Reddit death already had a big one. This one's getting a quick note
mircea_popescu: goies nicely with the discussion of that time when they fucked up deleting a qntra article iirc.
punkman: no, reddit fired a chick, moderators closed down subreddits in protest
mats: BingoBoingo: this must be a hoax
assbot: No Such lAbs (S.NSA), June 2015 Statement on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1RWpDKb )
mod6: we've got quite a lot to do before we're there anyway.
shinohai: There should be a super-secret #b-a mining pool.
trinque: I went from 100s of spamz a day to 0 with this one weird trick.
trinque: maybe a performance thing
mod6: just a minute here.
mod6: lemme give it a shot on my end first, see what happens so I can give you valid help
mod6: yeah, that's what i was saying before: leave your v0.5.3.1-RELEASE as-is. Then setup a new environment to give the "stator" build a try -- is pre-patched, so should be able to compile and run, or if your slightly more daring, just run the included pre-compiled (by alf) binary (ensure to check sigs first!)
mircea_popescu: ascii_field in practice this may not be a problem. the gavincoin insanities aside, growing by 300 bytes every ten minutes may well be sustainable indefinitely into the future. ☟︎
shinohai: @ mod6 I think I should start with a bare build. the other one is fine, son't want to touch it xD
mats: dignork: i'm looking forward to a test drive
mircea_popescu: anyway i'll feel a lot better about this world and my life once this has been actually reviewed by third parties. ie , you.
ascii_field: dignork wrote a cryptographic poker ?
assbot: Logged on 20-02-2015 14:56:37; dignork: mircea_popescu: I can't currently handle it myself, but I can bring a friend and we'll split the work, would you be interested to cooperate?
pete_dushenski: and it wasn't even a 'closure order'
ascii_field wonders now if pete_dushenski is physically able to eat in a restaurant now
mats: got a link/name to paillier paper(s)?
ascii_field: a corpse, buried at sea, has the most options:
ascii_field: (can still wake up with a bill for 10,000!)
ascii_field: funkenstein_: i pay the 700 in order ~not to wake up with a bill for 500,000~
pete_dushenski: ascii_field: u.s. is a big place. not all are so afflicted.
ascii_field: pete_dushenski: as a pathological example: just about anybody's living costs could be lowered by moving to africa, but for some reason very few takers
funkenstein_: ascii_field, have you considered that anything costing 700 USD per month is far more likely to be a detriment to health than a basic medical care?
ascii_field: pete_dushenski: because i'm not in a market.
funkenstein_: even assuming retarded farmers and homeowners accepting fiat, this is still not "control" in the sense of being able to issues a billion tons of rice. The stuff still has to exist and is limited.
pete_dushenski: ascii_field: i guess i'll wait until i see a monthly budget breakdown on loper-os.com before i submit my analysis :)
ascii_field: pete_dushenski: and where ~you~ buy it, that wouldn't cost me the price of a fleet of 'boeings' to get to...
pete_dushenski: funkenstein_: to the extent that the federal reserve is a counterfeiter, they most certainly control food (monsanto) and bedding (housing bubble)
pete_dushenski: ascii_field: you buying a case of z80s or pogos is reallocating capital ☟︎
pete_dushenski: trinque: most certainly. sounds like a swell idea to me.
trinque: it'd be a vast improvement for their lives
ascii_field: (at one point, a variant of paper reichsmark, but at all times - smokes)
decimation: ascii they give a little walking-around money too
funkenstein_ is looking for such a room and board position
pete_dushenski: decimation: besides, not like usafricanz are expensive labour. at least not within a decade
punkman: ascii_field, probably a few of those
decimation: or perhaps a bolt-on
ascii_field: punkman: is there one that isn't in a shitlang ?
pete_dushenski: decimation: well, it's a robot, not that bright y'know
decimation: or bank in a way that I desire
decimation: actually I would pay good money for a robot that could wonder through a yard and pull weeds ☟︎
decimation: yeah, I was talking with a farmer once, apparently john deere etc are investing heavily in fully autonomous tractors
BingoBoingo: ascii_field: It's a workalike. Apparently had a few previous names it burned through before they decided to just wait for reddit to kill itself.
assbot: Logged on 22-06-2015 13:43:47; punkman: "Poole said that one neighbor using self-driving technology downloaded a software update that disabled his tractor for a week in the middle of planting season this spring. If a system is working, farmers will often hold off on updates rather than risk complications"
ascii_field: looks like a straight clone
ascii_field: in other nyooz, apparently 'reddit' has imploded and replaced with a very similar service, 'voat.co'
pete_dushenski: well, 'dysfuntional' is a matter of perspective, isn't it
pete_dushenski: then a huntin' i shall go, a huntin' i shall go, hi ho the marry-o, a huntin' i shall go.
ascii_field: i dare say mr k's thing is a bit more... current
pete_dushenski: other b-a books include mp-advised 'secret life of dali'
ascii_field: pete_dushenski: ted k. had a book!
pete_dushenski: sorta a decentralised circle
pete_dushenski: this 'ssdi party village' sounds like a soviet full moon party
ascii_field: 'What if, for at least one meal per day, those 50 million people were invited to come to a social meal?' << kolhoz !!
pete_dushenski: ok, that's kinda a lulzy idea...http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/philg/2015/07/03/can-puerto-rico-be-a-laboratory-for-the-future-of-the-rest-of-the-u-s/
pete_dushenski: "We have 50 million people getting food stamps. What if, for at least one meal per day, those 50 million people were invited to come to a social meal? The same deal with SSDI. We could offer enhanced SSDI benefits for those who move to an “SSDI party village” where at least half of the neighbors are also on SSDI."
pete_dushenski: "As there seems to be a political consensus in the U.S. around raising minimum wage to $12-15/hour, if we assume that Americans as a whole will respond to economic incentives in the same way as those who live in Puerto Rico, presumably the 50 states in 10 years will look like Puerto Rico today"
scoopbot_revived: Survey: More Than a Third of American Adults Would Expatriate http://qntra.net/2015/07/survey-more-than-a-third-of-american-adults-would-expatriate/
ascii_field: ;;later tell ben_vulpes have you considered a blockchain to... s-expression ! tool
assbot: Logged on 03-07-2015 14:50:54; ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-07-2015#1184638 << asciilifeform, could i get a re-link to that piece on SIDS/implied infanticide?
assbot: Logged on 03-07-2015 13:47:19; ben_vulpes: decimation: now is when i confess to a quarter-implemented blockchain->relational db importer
shinohai: I also like that it doesn't use up a fuckton of memory and bandwidth during sync xD
kakobrekla: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-33378778 << The Catholic Church wrote in comments submitted after the bill was proposed: "Should freedom of expression go so far as to mean that the identity of a person of faith can be freely insulted, then personal freedom - as individuals or groups - is undermined."
assbot: Logged on 02-07-2015 22:27:27; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-07-2015#1184001 << well, look it up. there's a present risk of suffocation, and most sudden infant death correlates with shared sleeping arrangements. baby should have a cot, something. even if it's just a sling hanging off a hook by side of your bed.
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-07-2015#1184638 << asciilifeform, could i get a re-link to that piece on SIDS/implied infanticide? ☝︎☟︎
decimation: have a good day
ben_vulpes: man you can get a sql user (not an expert, mind you, but someone who understands it has used it and can avoid common retardations) at half time for approximately half the cost of some hotshit "full stack developer" who thinks mongo's a good idea
ben_vulpes: and because none of them were designed for that in the first place because a) it's hard and b) fucking retards write nosql stores for hackernooz points the algebraic layer turns out to never actually work. or it locks everything up while running queries that a real db would plan handle like a boss
decimation: I'm suggesting an intermediate step where you query your nosql db properly and place the results into a structured relational db
ben_vulpes: much like any c project eventually grows a miserable half-assed implementation of an eighth of common lisp any nosql project eventually tries to implement relational alggebra
ben_vulpes: otherwise you're going to start running the kind of braindamaged queries your 'nosql' layer support and then glomming it all together into something representing a query in application code
ben_vulpes: dude if it has a hint of structure it belongs in a relational db
decimation: nosql can be used to sort through your shit into a proper db
decimation: the only situation I can imagine is if you have a gigantic pile of disorganized data, that probably has a structure
ben_vulpes: i've yet to see the real world problem that a nosql db was actually the right solution to that wasn't actually a cacheing/cdn problem
decimation: other than 'wanting a backup copy'
ben_vulpes: but perhaps there's a good reason for writing the blocks directly to disk that i'm not grasping
decimation: I suspect satoshi intended on making a transactional database using the block .dat files at a later date
decimation: ah you are right, it isn't relational, it's just a key value hash
ben_vulpes: i was under the impression that it was either not relational or was only being used in bitcoind as a kv store
ben_vulpes: if you had the whole blockchain querieable in postgres, you could infer account balances in the usual fashion and sell reads over a pg connection
ben_vulpes: decimation: now is when i confess to a quarter-implemented blockchain->relational db importer ☟︎
decimation: such a thing would be needed for the 'private wallet query service' that ascii and I discussed last night
decimation: lul "As much as Victoria is loved, this reaction is not all a result of her departure: there is a feeling among many of the moderators of reddit that the admins do not respect the work that is put in by the thousands of unpaid volunteers who maintain the communities of the 9,656 active subreddits, which they feel is expressed by, among other things, the lack of communication between them and the admins, and their disregard of the thou
diana_coman: uhm, nothing special real, just a decent (not even very new or anything video card