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mircea_popescu: ie, approximately, "wind hurts cables, charged clouds block radio, thick clouds block satellite, fuck it all."
mircea_popescu: <mp> pai am si ramas. adica : cind bate vint au problema cablurile, cind is nori incarcati are problema radio si cind is densi are problema satelitye uplink. intre cele trei m-o tot chitait doua zile de am cedat nervos si m-am dus sa ma culc ieri
mircea_popescu: eh, fuck the works. lemme quote from minigame boardroom : <dc> aia, am crezut ca na, ai ramas si fara net de la vanturi alea
phf`: the place to be is of course http://www.mmts9.ru they do have 1/2 rack but i haven't tried them, since wasn't sure about our requirements. they can even get you a personal cage. antenna placement on the rooftop so we can put a microwave relay, the works :p
phf`: mircea_popescu: right, that would be the correct spirit :)
mircea_popescu: and i'm thinking of eventualk jdws here specifically.
mircea_popescu: anyone inclined to go "oh i'd have done a much better job" after any particular doing is going to find himself buried under a thick wall of "why the fuck didn't you DO IT then!".
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> iirc BingoBoingo was pounding the arabs/sw azns. << For some definitions of pounding, perhaps other definitions later
mircea_popescu: phf` well, on the other hand we gotta start somewhere. it's an adventure!
mircea_popescu: the more of a chain is wot-illuminated, the better link control.
phf`: mircea_popescu: right, i figured paying is not going to be a problem, either directly with btc or in the format that you've described. finding a reliable colo, getting a number down. unfortunately i don't have a good feel for russian colo space yet, and people i talked to while happy with their colos didn't necessarily have tmsr demands.
ben_vulpes: more important to me to get the locals into the wot, but i hear you
mircea_popescu: so tell gentleman to make himself an account neh ? easier to comm here than via email or w/e anyway.
ben_vulpes: translator also part of the deal.
ben_vulpes: i wrote a "hey tmsr, what would you use a cn embassy for" draft, which you saw, but since then i opened a line of conversation with a meatwot gentleman on the ground in cn who's working with me on finding dcs in chengdu and beijing in which i can lease a rack. "embassy chick" not at the forefront of these discussions because republican state of emergency.
mircea_popescu: phf` anyway, we're getting, imo, the smallest lockable, stand-alone item. whichever that is. in no case less than 4u, except really, we much prefer to discuss by the kw and gb, as seen in the convo earlier.
asciilifeform: absolutely, otherwise asteroid will fall on asciilifeform much faster than expected
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform that's good. also want more than 1 of these.
mircea_popescu: phf` so the question is very specifically, what do they take, and how do we sort it out ; it's in no case a "let's filter out whoever doesn't take bitcoins"
asciilifeform: asciilifeform will be , if plan worx, equipped to usd/rubleize/etc btc in necessary qties, before november
ben_vulpes: moving, and an afk crisis in my life are eating my time.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform this "hire chinese chick in china" thing's been ongoing discussion.
mircea_popescu: phf` i don't specifically care what they take ; but whatever it is they take, we'll have to figure out a process.
phf`: there's a bitcoin craze in russia right now (i.e. talk shows on t.v. discussing bitcoin as investment platform. dorky former FIDO node administrators talking about bitcoin mining on a rig in their apartments, etc.) so i wouldn't be surprised if i can find a colo that takes bitcoins. i haven't noticed one yet though
phf`: i've no idea about bitcoins or dollars, since i have facilities to pay necessary amounts in roubles.
phf`: mircea_popescu: i'll look into it. it would be helpful to know how many Us we'll be putting upfront, but i'll look at a rack. also i've no idea what kind of traffic requirements something like eulora or phuctor have.
a111: Logged on 2017-10-06 18:18 mircea_popescu: there's seemingly a lot of distance from this to 42u, but once the chinese woman tbf is hiring (is it ? mod6 ? ben_vulpes ? what's incremental from http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-21#1688633 discussion ?) starts hitting the hosting forums with offers...
ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-06#1721789 << gears grinding. i don't know anyone in beijing, but i've got a line on some folks in chengdu for translation services and building lists of eg datacenters ☝︎
mircea_popescu: anyway, this is why you get rack : so you can specify something like 14.4KW and 24 Gbit link and then sort it inside.
asciilifeform: argue with the ampermeter, mircea_popescu .
mircea_popescu: size is only part of this discussion.
mircea_popescu: they're not 1u if they draw 2u power yo.
mircea_popescu: 300-350 is where teh standard is, what are these.
phf`: not home, and i also didn't have time to process the information in detail yet, but i piped in since there was conversation. depends on what we want, baseline avg 3000 rub/mo $50 to put a 1u rack, with a 100mbit line, 300W. line is typically not metered, but also not guaranteed. then depends on our needs, an unmetered guaranteed 100 mbit line will cost another ~~$100 mo (to 1gbit around ~$500), plus whatever over cap on power usage.
mircea_popescu: every nonprofit has one, including nonprofits that don't actually exist.
mircea_popescu: heir job" these days...
a111: Logged on 2017-10-06 18:10 phf: there's curiously a lot of protests in d.c., with very well designed posters: artistic variations on the clenched fist, nice typefaces, the works.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-06#1721786 << this, fwiw, isn't even the giveaway it used to be. i personally supervised the release of piles upon piles of posters in us university campuses, for a very modicum costs. people off fiver just print what you give them, and put it up. nothing keeps you from having them print something decent, and with the abundance of "kids who fucked around with adobe illustrator instead of doing t ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-07-21 18:42 mircea_popescu: is this something the foundation may maybe consider ? open us an embassy in beijing, hire a chick to sit there 4 hours/day or such ?
mircea_popescu: there's seemingly a lot of distance from this to 42u, but once the chinese woman tbf is hiring (is it ? mod6 ? ben_vulpes ? what's incremental from http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-21#1688633 discussion ?) starts hitting the hosting forums with offers... ☝︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: on the home front : we clearly need a box for phuctor, i will also want a box for eulora ; there's also need for a third box for general purpose bitcoining/qntra/etc. that's three, plus whatever anyone else wants to add. iirc we also got 3 box servers ready to fly out.
phf: there's curiously a lot of protests in d.c., with very well designed posters: artistic variations on the clenched fist, nice typefaces, the works. ☟︎
asciilifeform: phf: there are goings-on in dc ?!
phf: i've catching up with the going ons in d.c. since i came back, so have a bit of low bandwidth at the moment. should free up in a week or so
phf: i have someone who can handle these requests on my behalf though, for legitimacy
phf: i've not had time to get a corporation going this time around (mostly i need to figure out what the tax structure is going to be), but i'll be going back in a couple of months.
asciilifeform: phf: get quote for the rack.
phf: i've talked to a handful of 1 hop from mmtsm9 collocation facilities in moscows, and they can do 1u or rack. i also have a trusted non-wot who can oversee or handle the installation. if we're doing a rack, and "worse ways to waste money" me can try and go straight for mmtsm9 (which is rostelekom's main internet relay, i.e. local web providers, like telcos etc put their equipment there)
ben_vulpes: "foar teh children!"
ben_vulpes: heh yeah the sex trafficking thing
asciilifeform: ( i.e. mandates full time stable of censors at whatever isp , and whatever slips through, isp still liable )
asciilifeform: guts the commoncarrier provision of clinton era
jhvh1: asciilifeform: phf was last seen in #trilema 2 days, 21 hours, 4 minutes, and 30 seconds ago: <phf> asciilifeform: that i figured out, the whole contraption reminds me of that ru anti-temper device pdf that you posted recently
asciilifeform: ru & the rest.
mircea_popescu: re-do ru like that!
asciilifeform: aite, i'ma then switch to asking for rack/yr.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform nevermind that. many worse ways to waste money ; not many better.
mircea_popescu: to quote the celebrated mr wolf, "get out of the sticks, boys."
mircea_popescu: you know the above ru may well be a case of "we don't deal with weirdos trying to get 1u for 1mo"
mircea_popescu: eh, get out. that's the egg size.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i really don't see point of buying less than 1 rack.
asciilifeform: if purchased by whole vertical rack -- about 1/2-2/3 of this.
asciilifeform: back to thread upstack : parking a 1U in india runs avg. 1-3hundy u.s. , depending on amperage and bandwidth curve.
mircea_popescu is not even kidding. ~1.1 liters or so. with ~1 liter being the low-average, in the sense of "average computed after excluding the outlying 10%"
mircea_popescu: the chick's just too tinyfor them is all.
mircea_popescu: in any case, these aren't even that huge.
trinque: if you pinch the nipples, do they go back to normal size?
mircea_popescu: "and why did you bury this car halfway in the mud, mr X ?" "well, gotta produce cars for our own consumption, postmodern free trade world. what can you do."
asciilifeform: holy fuq is that an arse or a torso
mircea_popescu: all these vast empires of grandiose technological achievements which upon examination fail to actually exist in any meaningful sense.
asciilifeform: seems as if it is deal killer, given that i wrote to dozen and 0 answered.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you talk to teh russkis in russian neh ? what foreigner ?
asciilifeform: trinque: the iron, as probably surprises no one, is the easy part.
trinque: will there be additional space in the rack to rent, or must rent a machine?
mircea_popescu: iirc BingoBoingo was pounding the arabs/sw azns.
mircea_popescu: heh. the errybody wants to not-do anything extends to dcs, does it.
asciilifeform: asciilifeform continues to write letters, most without answer.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform but specifically re the colocation part ?
trinque: so then just rate?
asciilifeform: asciilifeform prepared a quantity of servers, each approx. similar to spec of dulap-II ; these will be colocated, under the banner of s.nsa, and a certain number leased to folx in l1 .
asciilifeform: soooo since mircea_popescu already broke the radio silence, i will put on record :
asciilifeform: oh hey there it is
asciilifeform assumed it was being saved for the broadcast
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: did we ever publicly proclaim the details ?
mircea_popescu: lobbes turns out i named Framedragger twice, but the first instance was supposed to be you lol/
mircea_popescu: speaking of ^ asciilifeform , how's the isp thing going ?
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2017/no-such-labs-snsa-september-2017-statement/ << Trilema - No Such lAbs (S.NSA), September 2017 Statement
a111: Logged on 2017-10-05 18:20 mircea_popescu: ok so results of audit : Framedragger, shinohai, phf : your bot has no help implemented whatsoever, in spite of spec. trinque Framedragger you don't follow the json/sexpr portion, bot simply puts out the same help.
lobbes: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-05#1721301 << My bot's not following spec either. I'll be tinkering with it this weekend anyway so I'll add this to my list of tinkerings ☝︎
mircea_popescu: we're supposed to think he's respectable because he was purportedly inactive in EXACTLY the same manner we'd have been supposed to think him respectable for being active, in the same place a century prior.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the amusing bit to my ear was the implicit "only good citizen is citizen who isn't doing anything"
shinohai: Those 72 virgins ain't gonna fuck themselves.
asciilifeform: ( sometimes generically in sense of 'finally went to meet allah' )
a111: Logged on 2017-10-06 14:25 mircea_popescu: "Although ISIS have repeatedly attempted to claim credit for the shooting, saying Paddock had recently converted to Islam, both his brother and authorities have dismissed the claims. He had 'no religious affiliation, no political affiliation,' Eric said, adding: 'He just hung out.'" << good soviet!
a111: Logged on 2013-11-08 05:01 asciilifeform: "the little black rifle" which is useless to our cause!"
asciilifeform: ( the one of http://btcbase.org/log/2013-11-08#372732 ) ☝︎
asciilifeform: folx queuing up again, supposedly, to buy the littleblackrifle
mircea_popescu: this is about as long room service takes in the god forsaken shithole.
mircea_popescu: exact equivalent of that "russian geologist bad hunter" joke
asciilifeform: 'don't run from sniper, you'll just die tired' (tm)(r)