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mircea_popescu: "This took a bit for the stupidity to really sink in. Like, sink sink in. Her comment “I have to say I don’t really appreciate reading something like that and would prefer a much more constructive discussion about web payments” is the absolute peak of the stupidity. " << this was the problem
menahem: i didn't know how far I should push it - mention her on twitter, etc.. maybe best to leave the heavy hand to you ? i'm too much of a luvva. but maybe my definition of luvvin is wrong.
mircea_popescu: im gonna erase history to satisfy the hopes and aspirations of the subhuman horde five minutes after i gangbang literal sows.
mircea_popescu: and in the lines of drama : a few years ago the ro education ministry failed utterly at publishing natl highschool exams. so i hacked their shit and published the lists.
mircea_popescu: suppose i do.
mircea_popescu: so if i posion dns cache, can i also steal payments for that domain ?
mircea_popescu: mkay. well i'm exiting this process with message "a project to provide bitcoin-deanonymizers with a domain-address pairing method, powered by the general public's expectations of convenience and lack of expectation of guarantees" which sums up to "fluff".
mircea_popescu: but i gotta be able to figure out what stuff is too!
mircea_popescu: "What is OpenAlias? OpenAlias seeks to provide a way to simplify aliasing amidst a rapidly shifting technology climate. " << i mean come on.
fluffypony: I'm guessing the CloudFlare node you're hitting is being wonky
williamdunne: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-04-2015#1111640 <<< To the layman it seems they would be different. Assuming you're a fairly boring person as far as you're concerned dollars are pretty fungible (obviously not entirely and dependent on payment system), but they're not even close to non-discriminatory. I guess the difference IMO is between 1 btc = 1 btc, and anyone and everyone being able to have 'a ☝︎
williamdunne: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-04-2015#1111677 <<< Originally it was linked in the footnotes, not sure what happened to that. I'll add it again later ☝︎
mircea_popescu: anyway williamdunne i see what you meant by "not as eloquent" :D
jayk: i've tried to find her on fb but i dont know what happened to her
mircea_popescu: i turn down so much sex...
jayk: so i took her to the beach and we stripped down
cazalla: mircea_popescu, i guess so, figured you had the kavorka yourself but guess not :P
jayk: so why can't i!
cazalla: jayk, i get the bandana, free bird shit but c'mon, take hat/bandana off in a casino or any establishment for that manner
jayk: i...
jayk: cazalla: i shaved my head and didn't like the way i looked
mircea_popescu: i'm really the best customer anyone could ever have. i tip, there's hot chicks, the works.
mircea_popescu: the last time an idiot "asked me to leave" i had the place torched.
jayk: i was in a casino with a bandana and i was asked to leave because i appeared to be a frightening gang member
jayk: i got flamed for calling them pizza boy
jayk: i never liked the idea, and BFLY labs tried to do it
jayk: i heard you cant be profitable at $200-250
mircea_popescu: i would suspect maybe trustless is a misnomer. trust is not involved at all, the point is coherence. the system remains coherent, which is to say it does not fork into ambiguous states.
cazalla: made a irl scoopbot https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C21PhQU6tjg (every parent thinks their kid is the smartest but i think this is good for 15 months)
mircea_popescu: i am probably the record holder for most footnotes in an article out of the entire interwebs
mircea_popescu: i suspect everyone using them is using the same
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-04-2015#1111227 << i use WP-Footnotes4.2 By Simon Elvery. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: mike_c i noticed sorting earlier. pretty cool!
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-04-2015#1111168 << i lollerd. ☝︎
asciilifeform: the one consumer crud item which (i am told) behaves in a similar way is - diamonds.
asciilifeform: but back to the machines, because i consider this a mega-educational moment - there are countless instruments where you can pay, e.g., 10k on 'ebay' but you can also pay 800k if you want new, with support contract, for the mandatory softs to not be considered pirated, etc., etc., (most of this is strictly usg)
assbot: Logged on 25-04-2015 23:21:58; asciilifeform: i mention it because i can imagine a world where such clocks are considered not only acceptable, but 'state of the art' and 'best practice'
asciilifeform: aha. just like the xyz robot i worked with
assbot: Logged on 25-04-2015 23:43:06; asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-04-2015#1110941 << interestingly, i asked about the cost. was told something like '$1m for the old style, 2.5 for the new generation.' fella said this with straight face, too, as if there were nothing remarkable about this factoid.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-04-2015#1111123 << to round off that thread, it appears that a secondhand instrument of that type can be had for 10-20k usd, where i live. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: "this i should put where is ?"
asciilifeform: 'where i should put this?!!!' -- 'borat'
mircea_popescu: "i forgot where i put it "
mircea_popescu: gabriel_laddel once i go to jerusalem
gabriel_laddel B.A.D (bitcoin-assets distro) update #1, I just finished rewriting mozrepl in parenscript. Now to cut out extra crud.
asciilifeform: but also for many other reasons, which i will not waste readers' time on.
gabriel_laddel: While we're here, I'll note that being tied to text (perl) is quite limiting. On CLIM today I can tell any object how to "present" itself, i.e., how to draw itself on the screen. Such a thing is unthinkable in a language based around regexes.
gabriel_laddel: way less mental fatigue looking at them, I've found << I suppose. One can learn to read most anything. The importance here is the triviality of generating "syntactically correct" program texts.
trinque: I have to run; cheers
trinque: way less mental fatigue looking at them, I've found
trinque: it's a wonder I can hit the toilet with my ass ☟︎
gabriel_laddel: <trinque> seems relevant to the lisp vs perl thing << ummm... the angle I'm attacking this from is that meta-programming is inescapable and sexprs are the only sane way to go unless you want to program forth or APL.
trinque: yeah, and I went to a school that did C++ and Java, and dropped out of that
trinque: and a few months in I'm pretty sure it has goddamn everything, so to speak
trinque: I was for example shocked to find an object system in CL as a layman
asciilifeform: i don't want to buy the office chair that is successful in cheaply making infinite copies of itself into the aeons. not unless it also parks my arse well.
trinque: he could enter things like i 52345 s <ent> 3 <ent> and that would add inventory number whatever to the ticket 2 times
asciilifeform: nature's criterion of 'works' and mine, i will say, are not at all alike.
mircea_popescu: i am merely pointing out that the perl-bashing has some serious problems in front of it.
mircea_popescu: mind that i am not proposing any change here.
asciilifeform: i just can't help but recall kreinin's piece re: how folks who are asking for meat-like architecture 'whether they want a tool, or electronic best friend or sex partner' and asked whether 'they had tried the selection of naturally-occurring ones first'
mircea_popescu: i have no doubt you have still hope alf :)
trinque: I wonder if we'd have done the one with the afterburner having never seen a bird
mircea_popescu: anyway i should like to see a schizo computer.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i wasn't going nearly as far as any of that.
asciilifeform: <mircea_popescu> that may be. i'm just pointing out that biology offers a very significant challenge to theoretical cs. << i must confess, that i am at a loss as to which aspects of meat we should like to replicate in machines: intransigence? toe fungus? pneumonia? schizophrenia? ☟︎
gabriel_laddel: anyways, I ran across lots of juicy information.
gabriel_laddel: I ended up trolling through gov. documents on the yucca mountain facility (I had previously quoted wikipedia)
gabriel_laddel: that doesn't mean I should stop "butchering slugs"
mircea_popescu: decimation nah, i'm just being unreasonably heterodox over here.
gabriel_laddel: this conversation is going in the direction of "heat death of the universe" so I'll note that companies that use e.g., scala have to hire a lot of people to regin in the complexity inherrent in ALGOL.
decimation: did I just stumble into an ongoing turing test?
gabriel_laddel: I should note that "they" (algol programmers) try to add the tree traversal properties of lisp to their languages
gabriel_laddel: (I'm assuming you're saying "why don't you think they don't - do tree traversals")
gabriel_laddel: I don't because it's stupid
gabriel_laddel: ah, but I can
gabriel_laddel: I use strings all the time, don't use regexes
gabriel_laddel: I wouldn't dare draw that equivalence without agreeing on a formal definition for regexes and the process in question.
mircea_popescu: that may be. i'm just pointing out that biology offers a very significant challenge to theoretical cs.
gabriel_laddel: yeah, I don't see the analogy to perl
mircea_popescu: Pierre_Rochard from what i see (and from what i know of these systems) there's periodically going to be a beheading.
gabriel_laddel: I've had sex with a female if that's what you're asking.
mircea_popescu: Pierre_Rochard i suppose it's the next head on the chopping block after AA.
mircea_popescu: i see nobody wishes to engage the cunt problem. but yes, IT DOES RUN ON PERL. ☟︎
trinque: I'm fucking 28 and learning CL *now*
mircea_popescu: i think the female reproductive system runs on perl.
asciilifeform: 'certain languages support serious programmers, and others don't. e.g., I don't think it is at all possible to become a serious programmer using Visual Basic or Perl. if you think hard about what Perl code will do on the borders of the known input space, your head will explode. if you write Perl code to handle input problems gracefully, your programs will become gargantuan: the normal failure mode is to terminate with no id ☟︎
gabriel_laddel: I mean literally - steal their bitcoin, hack their bank accounts
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: concept alluded to was 'fits in head.' i suppose this is a good time and place to note that it can be accomplished in three basic ways: a) small system b) big head c) powerful hydraulic press
assbot: Logged on 25-04-2015 22:28:04; Naphex: anyway, what i was saying is you take steps 'secure' or tape your stuff always, and you don't feed raw data to your apps if you can filter the input beforehand.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-04-2015#1110915 << i still think this'd all benefit from a lot more documentation. ☝︎
williamdunne: Hmm I can probably deal with it, I'll take a look
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/category/bitcoin/ shows the lot but i suppose you don't like html cruft ?
mircea_popescu: i think it does this already.
assbot: Logged on 25-04-2015 21:16:50; menahem: seeing as everyone is posting their blog love, i did write this today: http://chedr.ca/2015/04/your-emotions-are-irrelevant-and-youve-missed-the-point/ (brings up mircea_popescu 's discussion on RIPple with W3C)
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell BayAreaCoins prolly later tonight i'd guess.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-04-2015#1110745 << i lived in costa rica for a few years, so yeah. but never been much of a coffee drinker, so... whatevs! ☝︎
Pierre_Rochard: but what do I know, I’m just an accountant
trinque: I'd love a proper emacs mode which could more or less "eldoc" postgresql functions
Pierre_Rochard: I was outraged because the reason they ignore quarter (and don’t raise an error!) is because there’s no convention as to whether the date should be the beg or end of the quarter. Month, week, etc do the beginning, why not adopt that as the convention!?