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asciilifeform: goes with the genre.
asciilifeform: all ecos are where you know how ends.
asciilifeform would defo read
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: a++ idea for an eco.
asciilifeform: eh if there's reservations of profoundly touched tards where they cry for the 'matriarchate' aboriginals, wainot also this.
asciilifeform: 'bout the same as we cry for the church derps voltaire poured cement on
asciilifeform: lots and lotsa grade-a folx , literally outta the mud, and straight into 'take country from wooden plough to thermonuke and moon buggy'
asciilifeform: sovok , fwiw, properly poured cement over the http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-03#1611080 thing ☝︎
asciilifeform: e.g. i have a (long-dead) distant kinsman whose father stayed alive in '20s strictly cuz he burned his swiss diploma. pretty sure ~erryone in sovokistans has a similar tale.
asciilifeform: new elite grows always either from arse or from foreign conquest, from where else, martians aint about to parachute one in
asciilifeform: and yes it's quite destructive. but rly not moar so than the properly-dynastic oh so civilized west euros ~thermonuking their kingdoms in ww1 for perfectly nonjacobin 'great game' reasons
asciilifeform: i dun have a better algo to give for how to reformat a cultural hdd , afaik that's still the state of the art.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: i can't get behind the usual reaction where 'noshit, this is retarded, what didja expect' tho. how the fuck ~else~ do you properly purge an oldregime wot ?
asciilifeform: 'социально чуждые элементы'
asciilifeform: diana_coman: sounds like replay of early sovok
asciilifeform: tho this simply moves the recursion, ~somebody~ up the line had to let things get to this
asciilifeform: point
asciilifeform: revisiting upstack re ivan and his missing harem -- suleyman is even moar of a case of wtf, had not only correct 'church', but working harem, and then 'wrapped it around telephone pole' when roxy
asciilifeform: diana_coman: plox to expand ?
asciilifeform: how else.
asciilifeform: greek gods read rather moar like the americans' favourite 'superheroes', humanlike.
asciilifeform: what with god as puppeteer etc
asciilifeform: the xtian ver. seems to be considerably moar rotting of brain
asciilifeform: i.e. take in some god swill with erry spoonful of latin, greek
asciilifeform: sorta how the classical education worked there.
asciilifeform: he ~did~ iirc spend moar time than is healthy around priests
asciilifeform: afaik moar of palace hostage than 'peasant'
asciilifeform: throne at 15.
asciilifeform: regency yes, re the rest i have nfi
asciilifeform: henry had to '51%' his church into programmability, ivan -- not, was already in pos to 'from nao on you pray to my left foot'
asciilifeform: recall that ivan was caesaropope
asciilifeform: it is therefore much moar of a puzzler, why didn't
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: d00d was in a 9000x better pos than e.g. henry viii , to make 'own church, with hookers, an' blackjack' and fuckerryone
asciilifeform: tho i must add, unlike shoemaker, ivan was a thinkin' man, spent good % of his life in his (lost to indiana jones warehouse) megalibrary, an' playin' chess etc with courtiers, scheming how to fuck english queen, and so forth
asciilifeform: gotta be
asciilifeform: the obv. next step, seems , is to actually use that fucking crown
asciilifeform: i still dunget fully why ivan did not enharem. he had all the 'ducks lined up', boiled in oil good % of the folx in any position to constructively object, even ran experiment where half the kingdom was a personal human-hunt reservation, to test.
asciilifeform: i gotta agree with mircea_popescu re item -- king with single-engined harem is like boeing on 1 motor
asciilifeform: afaik that there's the 'hole through which night came'
asciilifeform: he ran outta nodes tho, cuz no harem
asciilifeform: ended up with vacant throne and coupla decades of kakobreklas
asciilifeform: ivan iv used this algo
asciilifeform: see how it worked for'em ?
asciilifeform: well gorby et al ignored, where could've instead sent'em to 'hero' in afghan
asciilifeform: then i'm stumped, 1941-45 was my 1 crib sheet re problem
asciilifeform: in their stead, appoint to the succession some functional folx
asciilifeform: send the sad sons off to the front, the less braindamaged ones come back, the rest 'die the death of heroes'
asciilifeform: i'd expect it'd be same as what stalin did in this exact case
asciilifeform listens
asciilifeform: ( who yes later miami, but spent good, what, 3 decades of a++ work )
asciilifeform: i dun think he had the 'if they aint retarded, they will co-caesar and eventually eat me' problem -- consider pacepa.
asciilifeform: aint the whole point of a vizier, to handle the 'i can either king or learn c++' problem ?
asciilifeform: re 'understand' -- loox like c not only managed to avoid 'understand', but also somehow surrounded himself with viziers who ditto ?
asciilifeform: aa aaaa
asciilifeform: i gotta bite, an' ask, how is ~that~ bit of magic maintained...? do they have an eliza running, to post as him ? or how else anyone thinks 'not dead'
asciilifeform: ( where actual one, sent in '37-'38 mostly folx who were the most disgusting bootlicks, fattest apparatchiks, they continued to send! him! letters! with 'tov. stalin, to whom i remain most loyal servant..' etc )
asciilifeform: who sent to gulag 'for joke'
asciilifeform: m thereof
asciilifeform: i suspect he was working from stalin, but not the actual one, but own mental phanto
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: through my (admittedly inexpert) lens, d00d loox like archaetypical lion trainer who served up many a cookie but neglected entirely the whip
asciilifeform had in fact read the trial log
asciilifeform: nowadays any mcd-eater can become this, eh. but as i understand then it took some pull, to wangle the calories
asciilifeform: tov. c was quite unlike mircea_popescu in 1 important way , tho -- he neglected the disease until was unmanageable, was - near as i can tell - pretty soft (vs, e.g., stalin), very little 'prophylactic' depantsuiting in his reign
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-03-13#1901718 << that's exactly my reading of the events. ( and dun fughet to add, he, ohnoez, made'em pay the debt!111 ) ☝︎
asciilifeform: spyked: seems like the joke is on the folx who shot the shoemaker , who ~maybe~-sent police if he thought you had particular kind of bits on paper , and then spread legs for nato reich, who send police if they think you have ~another~ kind of bits, on yer hdd.. ☟︎
asciilifeform: 'Welcome to freenode. To protect the network all new connections will be scanned for vulnerabilities' << lol!!
asciilifeform: i'ma off to debuggery room then, bbl
asciilifeform: aite!
asciilifeform: i was under notion that this item is an 'all hands' firefight
asciilifeform: would luvv to go back to it, with mircea_popescu's blessing
asciilifeform: but so far this one's in the lead, i.e. box actually answered
asciilifeform: 'No racism and/or Nazism' smells of 'code of conduct'ism
asciilifeform: then went to 'ircnet', www last updated in... 2004. and none but the u.s. relays seem to answer
asciilifeform: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/wkd9B/?raw=true
asciilifeform: so asciilifeform went to 'quakenet', and saw guess what,
asciilifeform: verily
asciilifeform: other than 'not fleanode'
asciilifeform: maybe time to consider by what criteria to even pick
asciilifeform: 2015.
asciilifeform: ( and maybe even then healthiest horse, for all i know the others same but not reported )
asciilifeform: meanwhile, examining horses in the glue factory, efnet yields https://archive.is/bEyLF#selection-161.1-179.19
asciilifeform believes
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: afaik they autorotate'em ( by what satanic principle, i do not know at all )
asciilifeform: just that it happens erry quarter or so, when my fiber decides to sad
asciilifeform: not as if i dun regularly come up against same barf as mircea_popescu did this morning
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: so i did
asciilifeform: reminds of sov army shower -- grunt holds kettle over lieutenant's head
asciilifeform: lol
asciilifeform: bulgaria worx ?
asciilifeform: ohai mircea_popescu
asciilifeform: lol!
asciilifeform: i.e. buncha people who all promise same thing, and deliver ~same maybe-it
asciilifeform: per my lights, they're all ~identical
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i'd prefer if mircea_popescu picked which horse is healthiest in that glue factory
asciilifeform: trinque: i dun know this for a fact; maybe simply spat at the string of barf and stopped for nao
asciilifeform: i'm currently sitting on tepper.freenode.net ( 192.186.157.43 ) fwiw.
asciilifeform: hanbot: i'm with trinque on this one -- if we confine the thread to mircea_popescu's www, it will be a very slow thread. i do hope that he finds a working fleanode box to connect to in the meanwhile.
asciilifeform: http://trilema.com/2019/the-freenode-issue/#comment-128280 << the open q
asciilifeform: tho hrm, there's the 1 open q..
asciilifeform: hanbot: i have 0 to disagree in re the scheme mircea_popescu described on his www . it's exactly what oughta be sewed.