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mircea_popescu: asciilifeform oh,
the little wolverine huh. she's one spirited hussy.
mircea_popescu: scratch
the surface of "diversity" and "World of choice" juyst a little, admire
the self-same oroborus maggot.
BingoBoingo: So, in new lulz...
Telestra is soliciting business by posing as independent datacenters
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: (ticker [--bid|--ask|--last|--high|--low|--avg|--vol] [--currency XXX] [--market <market>|all]) -- Return pretty-printed
ticker. Default market is Bitfinex. If one of
the result options is given, returns only
that numeric result (useful for nesting in calculations). If '--currency XXX' option is given, returns
ticker for
that
three-letter currency code. It is up
to you
to make sure
the code is a valid (1 more message)
mircea_popescu: should i have said " how much dough
the etsy chicks don't make" ?
mircea_popescu: the proper equivalent of "he has either x of q or y or p but not both" is equivalent
to "i only use p, and he has an x but IT IS NEVER
THE X HE NEEDS haha!
take
that bitch! murphy works for me!"
mircea_popescu: now it should be apparent : in
the first case you let attacker have X of Q. in
the second case, you MUST let him have X of Q and Y of P.
mircea_popescu: here's what you move
to : "I have a Q and a P". here's
the correct statement : "Of all
the possibles
that may exist, Q and P, I have both".
mircea_popescu: here's how you state
the story : "I have a Q". here is
the correct statement : "Of all
the possible Q
that could ever exist, I have Q,
the one and sole and only."
mircea_popescu: nope. in fact,
thinking about enemy in
this specified sense is inviting error.
mircea_popescu: lobbes how
the fuck is bringing watermelons supposed
to be discriminatory ? he wasn't gonna let
the white guys have any ?
a111: Logged on 2017-10-11 16:53 asciilifeform: proposed item is
that if using 1 stream, knowledge of a segment of plaintext gives you something valuable
to work with; if using 2+ -- nothing
shinohai: lobbes:
They were prolly pissed because he didn't bring a bucket of KFC
too
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform point
there was
that enemy will have access
to some plaintext of each stream.
a111: Logged on 2017-10-11 14:25 phf: but at
the same
time it's handy strawman: ~web of
trust~ is broken, because our
take on it is a piece of shit. i
thought
that's some pantsuit pattern discussed elsewhere
mircea_popescu: and in other (lengthy) lulz : i cursed new girl with
the old mpoe-pr curse, if you haven't guessed by now.
the
tardstalk
this
time is "black hat world", dedicated
to "seo" and shit.
mircea_popescu: what is so SPECIAL about him
that you get
to move but he has
to stay put ?
mircea_popescu: you rpopose
to move
to situation
two, where
there's
two streams AND YOU ALSO PROPOSE
to not permit enemy
to know 500bytes of each stream. why not ?
mircea_popescu: look. situation 1,
there's one stream, and enemy knows 1kb.
mircea_popescu: if you get
to double your heads, so does eve : now she has knowledge of a segment half size in each stream.
tada.
mircea_popescu: but
that nothing is entirely predicated of assumptions on how exactly "knowledge of segment"
translates into
the new world.
mircea_popescu: the problem now is at
the next link in
the chain,
the fs.
mircea_popescu: leaving us with
this situation where "a different hash function" is not even a meaningful mathematical construction.
mircea_popescu: yet nevertheless,
the "g is a different hash function from f" "how do we know ?" "because george named his g and florence named hers f" is nonsense.
mircea_popescu: and so in certain context, such as
this one,
the correct assumption...
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i don't have
the proof it is, but
that's irrelevant. you don't have
the proof IT ISNT.
mircea_popescu: that was
the point of all
those galois fields discussions recently.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you don't know it's ACTUALLY different ;
the expression sounds different, but
there's a clear modulo space / elliptic curve relation.
mircea_popescu: discrete curves, diophantine equations, it's all
the fucking same.
mircea_popescu: and
this isn't a joke :
the "distinction" between rsa and ecc, whereby "ecc is faster" or "has longer effective key" is bs. ECC is exactly RSA in polar coordinates, if either fails mathematically both do.
mircea_popescu: to recapitulate for
the noobs :
the converse of "we have no strong security models for hash functions" does ALSO imply
that we CAN NOT DISTINGUISH
THEM.
mircea_popescu: that's nice, but
tell you what, 1880 airplanes all failed if one did. and one did. any one.
mircea_popescu: well how. if hash function is preimage weak,
they all will be.
mircea_popescu: i don't get it. so instead of one item with
the above
three problems, i now have
three, and
they're hashed
together. so ?
a111: Logged on 2016-02-10 19:29 asciilifeform: (incidentally,
the problem of an inner cipher introducing known-plaintextisms is solved routinely by splitting
the payload into xor-able halves, using rng, and enciphering each ~half~ with different cipher, rather
than box-in-box composition)
jhvh1: asciilifeform:
The operation succeeded.
a111: Logged on 2017-10-06 23:13 mircea_popescu: basically
the scheme is, you rsa a random bitfield,
then you expand
that into as much otp as you want by doing recursively Fi = hash(bitfield + Fi-1).
there's a limit on i, obviously, which can be set
to 1.
mircea_popescu: lmao "atenCOIN is rebranding
to blablaBITCOIN". oook ?
mircea_popescu: it's a good
thing
the human rights crowd informs us "everyone wants
to be and is an individual", because from experience i'd never have arrived at
the idea.
mircea_popescu: quite exactly, it's never futurism as
the 1920s artistic blaseness. it's always "i will r entrepreneurize" or "i will marry well" or such,
translated in
the new paints.
mircea_popescu: phf just about same here. i particularily enjoy situations where
the "group expert" in "new
trends" brings bitcoin
to
the group. particularily if 20something female.
jhvh1: shinohai:
The operation succeeded.
phf: asciilifeform: well
to do middle aged ru dentist
types
talked
to me of bitcoin mining with a "please explain what
the hell is going on". it's very much
the opposite of
the beobachter
take, still as lulzy.
shinohai: Since event is being held in Russia, inb4 Russian hackers fucked with
the
team
phf: (ipoteka is a ru word by way of greece for mortgage, i've not heard it before when growing up, but now at a certain age it's a main conversation subject/as well as advertisement, so i've been cracking up every
time i hear it. i've been forcing it as a catch all
term for "orc financial matters"
to
the confused looks of my ru friends)
shinohai: lmao
the U.S. futbol
team was defeated 2-1 by *Trinidad and
Tobago* and will not advance
to
the World Cup.
phf: depending on
the person either
the context of "you're a banker, what do bitcoin investment" or else futurism "soon
there won't be ИПОТЕКА everything will be in bitcions, have you heard?"
phf: every single 'civilian' conversation in ru i had with friends and friends of friends at some point had bitcoin brought up, and obviously not coming from me. in fact not even as part of "talking
technology"
track
mircea_popescu: local orcs have
their own homegrown equivalents of graham-style "entrepreneurship".
mircea_popescu: idiocy is not really cross-cultural in
this strict formal sense.
mircea_popescu: all
this "conference" bs is much a subleaf of
that, for
the loser/womenz
to
try hand at.