asciilifeform: lol i wasn't thinking in the 'fuck sisters' vein but 'import own chix'. ( as iirc mircea_popescu wrote about doing in ro, 'locals unfuckable' or how went the piece )
asciilifeform: i wouldn't propose to know. i know moar about how to refine petrol than about what mircea_popescus ecosystem like
asciilifeform: picture e.g. cat who prefers that dried liquishit the ameritards feed the poor animals, to tuna
asciilifeform: i watched repeatedly with dropped jaw as folx with no shortage of moola ate ameri-cheese, entirely voluntarily, and regularly
asciilifeform: 'wai spend 10 on milk when fdr-milk is 3'
asciilifeform: that's the thing you can't buy on 'market' -- sumthing resembling taste. ameri-food seems like a deal to folx who have nfi what even edible means
asciilifeform: afaik aint no way to fool the lit match litmus.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: btw do you flame-test 'em ?
asciilifeform: i'm not even mircea_popescu but spent moar on natural fiber i suspect than on comp
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: re 'femherd pester', iirc you had a piece where 'see, like chicken, they gotta send SYN, get ACK, coo-coo, how else to know that fox hasn't yet eaten'
asciilifeform: the bois will buy even less tangible brooklyn bridges, e.g. maffs phd
asciilifeform: i dun even know if the chix 'want to feel like miner', i suspect the higher nervous system aint even involved in the sense where they 'want' anyffin but to look-like-neighbour
asciilifeform: asciilifeform, for his part, dun want ; nor wants plastic obummer-years bmw, nor crapple
asciilifeform: q is re the 'feeling like a trader'(tm)(r)(ballas) simulacrum
asciilifeform: asciilifeform had entirely same 'eyes melt' experience when went to ameri-foodstore for 1st coupla times. today i spend good money at shop that loox exactly like what well-stocked one in sovok did in 1985. and not in 'dazzling variety' where cornsyrupinerrything.☟︎
asciilifeform: imho the interesting detail re 1989 was that ~these~ particular 'settlers' were already descended to approx the amerind stage, and sold ~entirely hollow beads.
asciilifeform: this i'll buy. as surely as the amerinds were doomed to 'buy' the beads.
asciilifeform: i distinctly recall a thread where mircea_popescu explained 'stupid wants to go and be with other stupid'. i.e. buncha derps in ro considered 'freedom' to be 'go shopping in vienna'
asciilifeform: how do i distinguish this from the pressure of a miami tho
asciilifeform: interesting, btw, detail : stalin, seems, mostly closed eyes to black market. the idjit 'let's actually practice what preach' thing began in earnest with hrusch.
asciilifeform: i dun think there's a modernistan without massive blackmarket (i.e. comparable in mass to the 'white')
asciilifeform: why does 'close cycle' have to involve j00z in zurich ?
asciilifeform: aint that whole point of 'autarky' 'we dun care if you won't buy this petrol, we refine it for own trabants and fuckyou with hot poker' -- to close cycle ?
asciilifeform: i suspect the bulk mass of 'worker' is similarly lazy errywhere (possibly excepting jp and other oddities)
asciilifeform: and he delivered his petro 100% ontime
asciilifeform: gaddafi was massively solvent until suddenly 'oops'
asciilifeform: i dunno that, e.g., belomor canal, was also ever 'profitable'. but also suspect that it is not good metric. ( was t34 factory profitable ? what's the ev of a t34? )
asciilifeform: that decided it has ~0 use for the little sovok it ate
asciilifeform: per logic of the 'spherical horse' market(tm)(r) mircea_popescu is 100% correct. but the 'market' aint one when there's derps printing money, it's simply a larger sovok
asciilifeform: that's what refining it yerself on ww2-era gear buys
asciilifeform: what is worth of being able to say fuckyou to washington , zurich, berlin, put together ?
asciilifeform: they didn't have to cut open that gold mountain, to make it, neh
asciilifeform: cost-to-make in what ? i thought 'all time is burned time'
asciilifeform: (actual report from old colleague, who went through series of ameri-autos that dutifully expired just as he paid off the credit, and didn't seem to teach him any)
asciilifeform: somehow, somehow! south kr did not turn into a mcd paraside of fast cars an' suburban picket fence, despite spreading legs for usg in '50s
asciilifeform: ( afaik to this day, mentioning communists in anyffin but the same light as a christian mentions satan, in south kr , is good for coupla yrs in the clink )
asciilifeform: and somehow despite definitely-not-communists
asciilifeform: to this day typical d00d working for e.g. 'samsung' lives approx. like factory worker under ceausescu ( and i suspect -- even moar threadbare )
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-03-14#1902437 << in 1941 su there was a mass of very similar morons who expected to 'drink bavarian' , chix lined up for barber shops to get fashionable hair to show to germans, etc. imho people who actually expect that getting conquered results in mass handout of candy and beer are tards. history offers no example of this kinda thing, and plenty -- of the obv. opposite, the 1 where no candy but instead ht☝︎
