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trinque: interesting; I'll consider the dieharder source code a starting point for further research.
ascii_field: i will also add that, e.g., digits of 'pi', are beautifully entropic per dieharder and most anything else
ascii_field: trinque: if you are a n00b to dieharder, i must remind you that just about anything looks like 'weak result'
trinque: I'll chew on the thing for a while and see what comes of it
trinque: ben_vulpes: oh and... several weak results from the consumer hardware I have laying around
mod6: anyway, i have high hopes that some of these steps could even be automated to aliviate the pain of building this by hand.
mod6: mircea_popescu: ahh, yeah. having gone through the gauntlet already on the thing at least a dozen times in aws, and also now having re-read the Gentoo-Handbook, i feel like I'm very close on this. To complete the guide, i wanna test out all of the steps on real hardware so the steps are accurate. I believe it'll entail something like creating a USB boot image, then booting off of that, then creating a stage3 in a chroot, then deploying that to
assbot: Logged on 07-05-2015 05:21:17; mircea_popescu: this is unlikely to EVER change. i tried to move it to gentoo but the attempt burned, toppled and sunk into the swamp.
mircea_popescu: mod6 i feel you. here's me kinda having to put gentoo on hold for a... minute : http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=07-05-2015#1123691 ☝︎
mod6: And as far as the gentoo stuff goes, I kinda had to put that on hold for a minute. I'm going to finish the rest of that up on real hardware. But to do so, I gotta drive across town and buy a new box. I might wait until after the 1st to continue this front.
assbot: Logged on 17-05-2015 13:41:39; davout: ;;later tell mircea_popescu http://i.imgur.com/g5ci4oK.png <<< the paymium banner
mike_c: box is still standing. yet another reason I need to move to BISP though. it seems ok for now.
mircea_popescu: if it needs to be scaled down you say, i scale.
trinque: I have a half-baked notion that people in the US like this show because they are aware of 200 years of history, if that, and only of their own dirt
mircea_popescu: by now, im not so sure of the mental health of tv watchers anyway. i guess it's prolly best not disturb them.
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: i typically get'em from diametric
mircea_popescu: i notice alf is very chan-oriented these days. picrelated all day from this fellow.
ascii_field: http://i.imgur.com/O3F9CF5.jpg << relevant
davout: ascii_field: yea, hopefully i end up in decentrally corwdfunded valhalla
mircea_popescu: davout i think this is one of those stories of old world privilege meanwhile abandoned because impractical and who gives a shit. just don't make it sur, that's niggerspeak
davout: mircea_popescu: i wish the b-a fairy gave me more money, instead of more hair
davout: there seems to be something to waht mircea_popescu's saying wrt to 'riding', but it doesn't look that's the full story, i found another source that says both "en/à vélo" are correct
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: i was drummed out of academia while reasonably young, for the crime of not-giving-a-rat's-arse
davout: but the more i look into this issue, the murkier it looks
davout: that how i'd say it
mircea_popescu: im so sick of this "retards are people too" bullshit by now i can't begin to tell you.
trinque: mircea_popescu: I told william I'd turn it off if his was returning, but it hasn't
trinque: mircea_popescu: I noticed scoopbot was absent for a while, and after many complaints just loaded the feeds plugin into tenyks
mircea_popescu: trinque i dunno what you two did there. what did you do ?
trinque: as scoopbot is not back I assume deedbot- is the new guy for that too?
trinque: I've "fixed" it locally which is to say it builds
mircea_popescu: i don't think they can work this fast.
Apocalyptic: i'm nearly convinced there isn't by now
Apocalyptic: oh, I thought you knew the answer and it was a challenge
ascii_field: Apocalyptic: not atm. but i'm currently occupied with other things
Apocalyptic: ascii_field, i'm still thinking about your "exercice for the reader" from yesterday as to how get $othersmuckQ without at least doing a division for every modulus encountered
ascii_field: i will say more later, promise.
Apocalyptic: I misunderstood what you were saying then
ascii_field: and what i meant was that one must demonstrate that one could import the pubkey, somewhere, and verify material that was signed with it
Apocalyptic: i'm disputing you can sign anything without having it first
Apocalyptic: I'm not disputing that
ascii_field: thus i conjecture that full factorization can be had, at reasonable cost, if there is a reason to attempt it
Apocalyptic: so I don't get how you can save this factorization exercice for after you sign something...
Apocalyptic: or did I misunderstand what you were saying ?
Apocalyptic: anyway the remainding part I have is not divisible by primes below something like 1 billion if I remember my tests correctly, may still qualify as -small- though
Apocalyptic: ascii_field, i thought these it was pretty much NFS all the way
ascii_field: Apocalyptic: i was saving this exercise for after we demonstrate that one could 1) sign with the dud key 2) it would verify on some broken pgptron, somewhere
Apocalyptic: but i'll look at it later
Apocalyptic: on a 311 decimal base number I have my doubts, even msieve refuses to crunch it ☟︎
Apocalyptic: ascii_field, I did some trivial factoring on the reminder, got 2 more primes
Apocalyptic: I would like to point out that unless yesterday's modulus was fully factored, which I have no knowledge of, we actually didn't factor the invalid subkey discussed
ascii_field: Apocalyptic, decimation: i will let mircea_popescu include this and other interesting zoological specimens in his next article.
decimation: right, but if a cosmic ray were to zing through a ram stick, I wouldn't expect a 32 bit word to change completely?
trinque: I just learned that yesterday from the fine folks at HN
trinque: I am merely scratching the surface of what I'm looking at, so far
trinque: I have lived in a sea of shit
trinque: ascii_field: I recall somebody "doing" this by bolting webkit to a terminal emulator :p
trinque: looks easy enough to fix so I'll probably take a crack at it at some point
mod6: oh yeah, i saw that on outside sites.
mod6: how do you know they're subkeys? did I miss this in the log?
asciilifeform: jurov: i regret to say that i may have been responsible for the first such article.
cazalla: what can i say other than he's right.. 9/10 aussies i met on 4chan love nothing more than shit posting
mircea_popescu: cazalla i find from 8chan that you suck. link related https://8ch.net/btc/res/33.html#212
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-05-2015#1135914 << i dun recall who put it in, mebbe davout but at any rate from what i've seen they couldn't get consensus behind the "inaccurate title" theory, or w/e it's called there. so that didn't werk. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: cazalla shit i was doing a very old log lol.
assbot: Logged on 28-02-2015 01:55:22; cazalla: so i made a bitbet under the influence and couldn't fund it until later, i assume 0 conf address listed for it in /propositions/ is the address of which i need to fund?
LC^: mircea_popescu: thx for answering my questions so far. I have to jump on a call, but if I decide to go ahead with an article on this and have additional questions I'll look for you around here.
mircea_popescu: ehh, diddled php implementations << obviously i mean pgp not php.
mircea_popescu: adlai i would guess something between 50 and 100 BTC's worth of S.NSA engineer's time, and maybe a few months-box worth of hardware.
mircea_popescu: we might consider publishing the "harmless" keys, but for one thing i am not altogether convinced they're so harmless, and for another, much more interesting would be a hunt for diddled php implementations.
mircea_popescu: there's been a total of three pairs, so six total keys to date. i have little doubt that as the program progresses through the list, more will be found. generally, the idea is to discuss this with the owners and them only.
mircea_popescu: because i did lots of the former and the latter never occured.
LC^: there are parts in some archive formats you can modify and the archive will still work, though year I understand your point, the suggested theory of damaged in transit would suggest random damaging not controlled modification
LC^: I see, so the key would serve as an exploit of sorts or a trigger
LC^: I'm just trying to understand what the risk is here and why would someone create such keys, intentionally
mircea_popescu: i am plainly saying that while the weak keys incontrovertibly exist, it's unclear why they exist. someone put the effort into making them, which is not exactly trivial.
LC^: I guess that is the main problem you're trying to highlight, correct? that some generators might be broken and generate weak keys
LC^: I want to write an article about your Phuctor-related findings.
LC^: I'm a journalist. I shared my identity via privmsg.
mircea_popescu: i don't know you, so no.
mircea_popescu: in other news, the next batch of usg dept of internet outsourcers, to replace the current batch of third worlders : http://i.imgur.com/9EG2jYA.gifv
mircea_popescu: this constitutes harassment in zoe quinn degree. i now must have my own oprah show.
mircea_popescu: halp halp i've been lyfthreatenet across hte internets
mircea_popescu: i dunno but it seems serious.
asciilifeform: for anyone still awake, i'm presently wondering re: how the rotten keys behave in autoverifier scripts (debian ? etc)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform notice that idiots are doing their pressing. "If I wanted to poison HPA with a fake key, why would I create a degenerate one? A fake key with strong factors would have gone unnoticed, at least by this analysis"
assbot: Logged on 18-05-2015 01:35:23; justJanne: Sometimes when I get DDoSd I run nmap against the attacking servers, one time I found a small IRC server with only one channel, in which were 256 clients all with just a number as name, and one other client sending specific commands every few minutes
assbot: Logged on 12-05-2015 22:05:41; mircea_popescu: "here i sit in a prefab vinyl siding plebhousing unit, burning a 50 dollar bill" ?
danielpbarron: I think it's like this -> http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-05-2015#1129306 ☝︎
mircea_popescu: but she's REALLY bad. i mean sweet singer of michigan level bad.
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron i'm not closer to comprehension
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-05-2015#1135696 << maybe they could make them also fly, i'd donate. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 17-05-2015 23:39:53; pete_dushenski: williamdunne i really have nfi what the first trade was. if you say it's weed, we'll go with that, but that doesn't mean that first=best
assbot: Logged on 17-05-2015 23:34:39; williamdunne: Read the article, and I still don't see how that makes it bad for the last mile
mircea_popescu: i have my doubts if you could get a decent definition of the notion of number from one in ten us graduates.
justJanne: Right now I'm taking second semester classes, last week homework was doing RSA on paper.
mircea_popescu: i think alf might fall in love.
mircea_popescu: <justJanne> BingoBoingo: Yes — remember, I use no Google services, and modified half of the apps on my phone myself. << o.O what are you, like a hacker ???
mircea_popescu: midnightmagic i have my doubts about how all that *pathic stuff works. kinda weaponized terminology, like "heretic"/"disbeliever" in middle ages.
williamdunne: I'll eventually create another key offline which I'll use as a master or summin