asciilifeform: what kind of gurl was it

asciilifeform: eh l0lk

asciilifeform: reader went to third grade, presumably, and knows...

asciilifeform: which that

asciilifeform: and pu brick in next room aha

asciilifeform: with a km or so of fiber in

asciilifeform: they launch balloons in antarctica

asciilifeform: exists here at uni

asciilifeform: it was in astronomy expo

asciilifeform: where do you think i was playing with it

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it is tho

asciilifeform: but will need 2 of'em, since i no longer have access to mass spec

asciilifeform: thieves work also

asciilifeform: you cant hide the periodic table.

asciilifeform: if i had $$$, would try to score some existing scintillator and put it through ms and get their dopant.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: nope cause he dun reflect

asciilifeform: it is painfully catalogued, just not on pediwikia

asciilifeform: but yes.

asciilifeform: need a little penetration

asciilifeform: well, not simply coat

asciilifeform: think!

asciilifeform: it is enough for the cladding to.

asciilifeform: for you do not need whole thing to scintillate!

asciilifeform: find way to dope standard plastic fiber, already born....!

asciilifeform: or did you already guess it

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: this is really begging for a wtf unconventional wunderwaffen, think:

asciilifeform: 'devil is in the details'

asciilifeform: and now mircea_popescu has correctly described the usual $100m apparatus...

asciilifeform: no, but it will stretch while hanging molten under it

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: if you don't have controlled constant diameter, you lose the total internal refraction and it aint fiber nomoar

asciilifeform: glass is not correctly dopable afaik.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: also recall that scintillator fiber is plastic

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: nope. you need the fiber to be straight, or if will kink to death when transported.

asciilifeform: but elaborate..?

asciilifeform: nah

asciilifeform: drawing fiber is only slightly easier than chip fab

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: briefly back to the fiber, from what i saw last night, one would need about 20cm for ideal rng.

asciilifeform: 512

asciilifeform: which was factored by buncha folks the old-fashioned way

asciilifeform: ti is famous for that 513b key in the calculator

asciilifeform: noshit.jpg

asciilifeform: lol

asciilifeform: oh key

asciilifeform: '80s

asciilifeform: collimates, in practice. but yes.

asciilifeform: so yes, 'antenna'

asciilifeform: subtract $1000 or so, and no need for hv, and no wear...

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-01#1460011 << you don't need photomultiplier tube with the fiber, aha. ☝︎

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-01#1460004 << holyshit, nontrivial factor. and see the 2 mods side by side, and will see why... ☝︎

asciilifeform: mod6: the baked-in presumption of webtardism is almost insulting

asciilifeform: eh.

asciilifeform: ;;grasers

asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu http://dpaste.com/18PAQRN.txt << lulzy.

asciilifeform: 'we detect yer neutronz. and dun want you detecting ours, aha'

asciilifeform: aaaaaaaaaand here's the sorta folk who are hogging the goodz, and hear from their own mouth why: http://www.nucsafe.com/cms/Why+Neutrons/51.html

asciilifeform: (does everybody understand why scintillator ~fiber~ is neat, while the commonly-available scintillating plastic blocks are nearly useless for rng ?)

asciilifeform: at least without 'note from hitler.'

asciilifeform: it is quite interesting, apparently this thing can be bought ~nowhere.

asciilifeform: (and happily detect, e.g., neutron flux)

asciilifeform: usg would rather that folks did not have cheap, low-power geigerz that never wear out

asciilifeform: usg verboten !

asciilifeform: (from catalogue.)

asciilifeform: an inquiry from you, and we may not be able to accept some inquiries depending on the end user and application...'

asciilifeform: 'The scintillating fiber is assigned in article 1 of the Export Trade Control Order as undermining the maintenance of international peace and safety. To export this item, an approval of the Minister of Economy, Trade and Industry of Japan is required, so we need to confirm the end user and application for each sales. We may sell the fibers to you, but we would have to check and confirm the end user and application everytime we have

asciilifeform: 'kuraray' sells scintillar fibre ( http://kuraraypsf.jp ) , but:

asciilifeform: in yet other lelz,

asciilifeform: 'By 1960... Shannon had retreated. He no longer participated much in the field that he had created, publishing only rarely.'

asciilifeform: in other l0ltr0n1cs, http://www.newyorker.com/tech/elements/claude-shannon-the-father-of-the-information-age-turns-1100100

asciilifeform: (but for 1/2 hr or so, it was blackhole)

asciilifeform: also.

asciilifeform: gotta love public toiletnet

asciilifeform: (not http, either, but 'classy', looks like syn flood)

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: phuctor ddos...?

asciilifeform: quite the difference!1111

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-01#1459944 << aha, correlates with every passing truck, l0l! ☝︎

asciilifeform: 'some sort of noise' is very low bar, actual battlefield rng needs a number of other properties (chiefly, difficulty for the enemy in influencing or predicting the output)

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-01#1459921 << this setup is equivalent to microphone (the only random element is the vibration of the meshes) ☝︎

asciilifeform: http://www.crystals.saint-gobain.com/Scintillating_Fiber.aspx << no pricing, sadly.

asciilifeform: (they need hv source, which in turn requires oscillator, which introduces nonrandom signal component; ~and~ tube wears with time)

asciilifeform: pretty much solves the problems from which i refused to use geiger tube in my rng

asciilifeform: (enough events, even indoors, for this)

asciilifeform: end glows blue, to naked eye - constantly

asciilifeform: i toured a lab today where i saw scintillating... ~fiber~.

asciilifeform: ^ not 'mirrored' either!

asciilifeform: Phuctored: 5371 divides ... <MathStuf@gmail.com> << l0l!!

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-30#1459880 << that thing is from eons ago ! ☝︎

asciilifeform: ty mod6

asciilifeform: 'lose weight, shed limbs!'

asciilifeform: adlai: aha

asciilifeform: adlai: all it is, is primes 2 ... N (for some large N) turned into a phuctor-compatible gpg key

asciilifeform: (i refuse in principle to pay storage)

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i dun have a coinbr acct either, for reasons discussed in agonizing detail in the logz

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-30#1459699 << i dun have an mpex acct. so qntra shares are not mechanically convertible to coin. ☝︎

asciilifeform: adlai: here, http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-29#1459374 ☝︎

asciilifeform: adlai: read the bloody l0gz

asciilifeform: so no.

asciilifeform: adlai: realize that the whole 1.7m mods get phuctored in ~800 sec.

asciilifeform back from ph00d

asciilifeform: aha!

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i m lazy