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Landgull: I'm registered with gribble.

williamdunne: More like an airport with a pet airline I think

williamdunne: flyplymouth: Not sure how that works, so I won't comment. Anyhow. How do you stress test a business plan?

mircea_popescu: i still don't understand what stress testing a business plan involves.

williamdunne: flyplymouth: And I know business model is different, I meant more along the lines of bandwidth, plane size etc

williamdunne: flyplymouth: In comparison to Exeter how big was Plymouth? Exeter is kinda shit. I prefer just to go to London something

flyplymouth: well I am one of them

jurov: i don't think win compatibility is major problem

mircea_popescu: easier to give you btc i think. which windowses can you do ?

williamdunne: I shit you not

jurov: mircea_popescu: i see eulora moving, can we talk about release engineering reward?

williamdunne: I thought that was the Kiwis?

williamdunne: Keyserver thing could be ...kinda useful I guess?

ascii_field: mats: i distinctly recall hearing of this before

williamdunne: I do indeed

mircea_popescu: i didn't find a supplier. ☟︎

ascii_field: jurov: sure. i was trying to point out that the answer 'well firewall it off' is not a pill against this kind of thing

mircea_popescu: apparently i've not been paying attention.

mod6: <+ascii_field> mod6: i was simply pointing out that it is not, afaik, part of the official therealbitcoin tree as of yet. << ahh corret.

mircea_popescu: i think ipmi is the most retarded thing ever invented

ascii_field: mod6: i was simply pointing out that it is not, afaik, part of the official therealbitcoin tree as of yet.

mod6: Then it was working well as far as I know.

mod6: He was running deb8 on one box, and then stock v0.5.3.1-RELEASE worked fine. but on a seperate instance of deb8, he reported the boost type issues, so I had him follow these instructions: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-April/000082.html

assbot: Logged on 01-06-2015 14:53:54; mod6: <+shinohai> To whatever peers it connects to instead of specifying ip's << hi! glad you're having some success,.. I thought we added ascii's dns snip patch? Or did I mis-remember that? you did have to use "addnode=" in your bitcoin.conf right?

mod6: <+ascii_field> http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-06-2015#1149686 << afaik it was never merged << it wasn't. but I had him apply it while helping him get setup. ☝︎

shinohai: np jurov, I signed up for mailing list last week

danielpbarron: i think there's a blog post about that

shinohai: I "almost" have a node up.

shinohai: I like to be prepared for all contingencies.

Landgull: So why is it that all of the sudden I'm hearing about people wanting to put everything and their cat in the blockchain? Is it actually a good idea, or is it just a way to attack/overwhelm the network?

Landgull: Mmm, echo chambers only matter to politicians pandering to votes, though. Or 50%+1 attacks via democracy, I suppose. ☟︎

Landgull: At any rate, I've been reading the logs for a bit and I like the kind of discussion that seems to happen in here, so I thought I'd say hi.

mircea_popescu: i would guess it'd depend just how desperate they are.

mod6: eh, i must be stale again

mod6: <+shinohai> To whatever peers it connects to instead of specifying ip's << hi! glad you're having some success,.. I thought we added ascii's dns snip patch? Or did I mis-remember that? you did have to use "addnode=" in your bitcoin.conf right? ☟︎☟︎

Landgull: Hey, I didn't say he was right - just that someone with a botnet thinks he's right.

williamdunne: jurov: I don't own Deedbot

shinohai: I have that same line already ?

shinohai: But yes, I see the point. Perhaps irc is the best way to find non-gavinized nodes.

shinohai: I know it was removed, but when I last spoke to mod6 I think he told me to just connect normally for now

assbot: Logged on 01-06-2015 13:55:14; shinohai: mod6 when you return, wanted to let you know I built without the irc peer discovery and it works nice.

mircea_popescu: i prefer this, because it drains the attacker.

shinohai: mod6 when you return, wanted to let you know I built without the irc peer discovery and it works nice. ☟︎

punkman: I think I put in all the patches currently listed on thebitcoin.foundation front page, except perhaps static-makefile.tar.gz. And used whatever openssl etc that was present on my debian7 system.

punkman: maybe I had wrong openssl version, dunno

assbot: Logged on 01-06-2015 09:11:43; punkman: and when I tried to verify all of them, it blew up before block 150k

assbot: Logged on 01-06-2015 07:22:44; mats: i miss assbot titles

mircea_popescu: i think reddit awaits you.

mircea_popescu: same thing i did about doge, keisercoin, auroracoin, younameitcoin

cazalla: lol australian housing bubble keeps on going.. place not far from here auctioned on weekend.. i figured it'd go for 600k maybe 650k.. sells for 971k http://www.realestate.com.au/property-house-vic-ringwood-119702667

punkman: and when I tried to verify all of them, it blew up before block 150k ☟︎

liquidassets: What is ATC I can't find a reference

chalbersma: Think is I don't think that anybody is actually using ATC P2Pool implementation anymore. The contract for the build had 1 month of runtime and then MP and Ragnar I believe ran the p2pool node for a while. But ATC didn't seem to catch on that much.

chalbersma: In this case I forked the bitcoin p2pool implementation (https://github.com/forrestv/p2pool) added a better interface and ported it over to ATC pool (under the hoods it're really just a couple of lines).

mats: i miss assbot titles ☟︎

mircea_popescu: i said coanda

Vexual: i assumed vault was just a word that presumed they were better than apple at storing nudes, so i didnt look

asciilifeform: thestringpuller: i'm seeing a microsd single-chip turd

assbot: Logged on 11-05-2015 20:00:50; mircea_popescu: "TLDR I ran afl-fuzz against libbitcoinconsensus to discover interesting Bitcoin scripts and used them to search for Bitcoin reimplementations vulnerable to forking. This discovered two bugs in btcd by Conformal. See the bitcoinconsensus_testcases repository for the discovered Bitcoin scripts."

decimation: heh yeah when reading that bastards section I ran into "CCriticalSection" stuff - which apparently all came from mfc shit

asciilifeform: this is one of the reasons why i - in all seriousness - believe c++ to be one of the 20th century's greatest crimes against the future.

decimation: I guess I'm saying: did satoshi fail to clean up clutter as he went along?

decimation: asciilifeform: I see lots of std::vector and associated bs in your igprof stuff

mod6: <+asciilifeform> not 100% certain that we're all using same bdb... << but anyway, yeah, I'll check anyway. there is a chance that we could be looking at two seperate versions.

decimation: asciilifeform: I'm using the auto.sh build

mod6: <+asciilifeform> our ver. of bdb actually lacks the set_memory_max << OH. ok did not realize that. damn. well, i'll mention this fact in next months letter. should hvae asked.

mod6: I should have put in a line maybe about "encouraged to read the submitted emails" or something, but perhaps I just thought it was implied.

asciilifeform: oh perhaps i should mention that i tested the db memory thing

asciilifeform: mod6: i would comment that technically the block-bastardage and tx-orphanage nukes are semantically independent. but the latter was derived from a main.cpp patched with the former.

asciilifeform: lispworks is actually (afaik to this day) the maintainer of the online cl hyperspec! while documentation from franz was once superb - came in printed volumes, which i bought second-hand

asciilifeform: <ben_vulpes> trinque and i were wondering about their CLIM implementations, and if documentation etc was better on the closed-source side of the world << i never had lispworks and can't comment about it, but franz 'allegro' does come with clim. iirc it only works in the non-smp version though, and depends on gtk

Adlai: i've heard they're great for hammering in nails

ben_vulpes: trinque and i were wondering about their CLIM implementations, and if documentation etc was better on the closed-source side of the world

assbot: Logged on 31-05-2015 22:53:20; midnightmagic: williamdunne: If you're quick enough, I suppose. Also, this is presuming the host itself isn't in some fashion pwned, since who knows how it was actually compromised considering the physical drives are unavailable for examination.

assbot: Logged on 31-05-2015 21:27:33; asciilifeform: i don't even apprehend why this 'jam tomorrow' nonsense was even in there in the first place.

mircea_popescu: i'm not proposing "This by itself and right now"

assbot: Logged on 31-05-2015 21:23:54; asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=31-05-2015#1149116 << i tried various values of 'misbehave' increment per orphan block - 20, 50, even 100. in my tests, this made sync... slower. reason, as i understand, was that 1) you lose time renegotiating connection 2) overwhelmingly likely that any node you reconnect to -also- shits just as many orphans.

assbot: Logged on 31-05-2015 12:11:09; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=31-05-2015#1148837 << i would like to see a patch which maintains VALUED list of other nodes.

mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=31-05-2015#1149112 << i was talking about the mixed moduli situation yo. ☝︎

Lk4_DPB: i would not know, perhaps it was not a smart question

Adlai: although i guess it could be an experiment, and the experimenters wanted to only diddle their own keys, to minimize collateral damage

Lk4_DPB: i was at some event in milano and they talked about assets as a the place that knoews best about bitcoin adn that discovered a probem with rsa keys

danielpbarron: >> At this time, I oppose increasing the block size limit as per Gavin's proposal.

midnightmagic: williamdunne: If you're quick enough, I suppose. Also, this is presuming the host itself isn't in some fashion pwned, since who knows how it was actually compromised considering the physical drives are unavailable for examination. ☟︎

williamdunne: i.e using the cheap blades how many servers can you fit per maybe 48us?

williamdunne: jurov: Wow, I can get you better than that. Thats pretty pathetic

jurov: I personally got only an offer to share a rack with 4x100MBit(can be upgraded to giga) and 4xIPv4 for 500 euro/mo ☟︎

jurov: williamdunne: yes i knew about it. but, what do you think "victim of its own success" mean? :DDD

jurov: premature optimization, i guess

asciilifeform: i don't even apprehend why this 'jam tomorrow' nonsense was even in there in the first place. ☟︎

asciilifeform: i have come to the conclusion that the -only possible- non-retarded solution to bastard blocks -when we can only adjust our end- is to throw them into the sun.

asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=31-05-2015#1149116 << i tried various values of 'misbehave' increment per orphan block - 20, 50, even 100. in my tests, this made sync... slower. reason, as i understand, was that 1) you lose time renegotiating connection 2) overwhelmingly likely that any node you reconnect to -also- shits just as many orphans. ☝︎☟︎☟︎

decimation: but I'm not sure if those checks actually are effective in the bastards case, gonna need to read more code

decimation: asciilifeform: yeah I'm trying to crawl my way through it. are these nodes actually hostile or do they just not have the full blockchain?

asciilifeform: (incidentally, a while ago i posted a patch that kills log rollover. might be of interest to some of you)

decimation: I added the ip of the node that was passed when ProccesBlock was called

decimation: asciilifeform: as an example, I have 131 'BASTARDS' between two accepts

asciilifeform: not on any pgptron i've ever used

mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=31-05-2015#1149080 << special interest politics, from gay to womens to minorities to what have you is fraud, run on ambition, high hopes and bad numbers. i am so shocked i think ima become a vegetarian nao. ☝︎