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BingoBoingo: <ben_vulpes> shall we demand that of the pete_dushenskis and hanbots who wish to run their own hand-compiled foundation releases? << Honestly prolly.
A recipe that provides ABI compatibility with 2.6.x Linux kernel is prolly fine. People can adapt to other environments.
BingoBoingo: <ben_vulpes> ... << how long? my maxint_locks build appears to be chewing on this one, but i cannot actually tell. << I remember more than
a minute, but only resorted to spring powered time after already waiting
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> ben_vulpes: i carefully summarized the antecedents to 'stator' for hanbot (see log) << stator, rotor work to build
a bitcoind on the "mint" ubuntu-like. Don't remember installing more dev tools after g++ for stator
BingoBoingo: <trinque> I watched
a guy drink himself to death because you know, unix wasn't everything-is-
a-table << What. People don't die of drink anymoar because it feels good man?
ben_vulpes to have
a brow soothed on
a sweet busom
trinque: that's what I as
a newb trying to wade in wanted to know
trinque: my only problem with rotor was that berkdb is
a piece of shit, ignored env vars that every ball o' source should care about without its own magical flag
decimation: my stator with eatblocks is almost synced after
a month of running
decimation: asciilifeform: mapTransactions appears to be
a std::map to me
trinque: sometimes you get
a shitty handhold, but you don't immediately shout "fuck this!" and let go of the wall
ben_vulpes: no! for it is
a merely
a derpy directory structure issue that any sophomore can figure out
☟︎ ben_vulpes: heck, it'd be
a huge improvement if /patches.html rendered in chronological order
trinque: asciilifeform: yeah, but the patches are
a tree, not
a timeline
decimation: trinque:
a web page with links to whatever deedbot spits would be sufficient
trinque: decimation: I was thinking this might be
a web app
trinque: dev is its own concern which might have other processes; you could say that
a particular feature branch eventually gets flattened down into
a release patch
decimation: it would be nice to have
a button to click: download the 'original tree' plus patches to get to this patch
decimation: it all depends on what is
a reasonable risk to accept
ben_vulpes: oh don't mind me, i'm just grumpy about
a frictive process
assbot: Logged on 14-07-2015 03:22:40; asciilifeform:
a mistake that is owned up to, before it sinks any ships - can perhaps be accepted as
a mistake, and forgiven
trinque: the patches page helps
a bit, but for example seeing easily from where various experimental patches derive
trinque: you can do the same process better with
a hierarchy of git repos
trinque: I watched
a guy drink himself to death because you know, unix wasn't everything-is-
a-table
ben_vulpes: *i* have
a repo. *it* has
a *stable* and an *experimental* branch.
ben_vulpes: i'm just trying to operate within these crazy boundaries. i don't have any process improvements that i'm sure wouldn't get shot down in
a new york second from asciilifeform.
trinque: then you can you know, use
a power drill
ben_vulpes: "
a real contributor would write all of their own tooling to solve this"
trinque: I had
a hell of
a time figuring out where I should be re: patches, at least before giving up and using rotor instead.
trinque: the patch signing is great, but it's not
a process by itself
trinque: hey yo, I made
a lot of noise about process early on
ben_vulpes: if you're up to date on the patching, submit
a patch and note its antecedents.
BingoBoingo: Most intimidating part of current realbitcoin is where the fuck do I submit
a diff from?
☟︎ ben_vulpes: i'm all for barriers to entry here but this is
a goddamn development obstacle course
mircea_popescu: how about submiutting
a "This doesn't work - don't use it" thing on the broken one
mircea_popescu: i can appreciate the heroism of "fuck you, it's all stable". but then that comes at
a cost.
mircea_popescu: for one thing, most everyone but us has
a stable and
a testing list.
mircea_popescu: the ml process needs some reviewing. it's sort of grown organically to
a point where it's troublematic.
ben_vulpes: not that i'm not infinitely indebted to you for unwedging my coracle but
a hint of context'd be useful.
ben_vulpes: not even
a note in correction about "lol sry first patch doesn't work"
ben_vulpes: second patch contained
a link to mp's "dis wat i do, yo"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform he still has
a point.
a) we're careening dangerously towards -dev levels and b) people can't fucking follow wtf is on that list.
☟︎☟︎ ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: did you find
a reason why maxint wouldn't work, or is the second patch just using mircea_popescu's lock values for 'myzteeri0us reezuns'?
assbot: Logged on 05-08-2015 02:36:09; BingoBoingo: I'd use
a stronger word than terribly, but... local fields look like shit. Shit corn and god only knows if the soy will produce beans before becoming silage. I expect the mold to cause more than
a few dairy die offs when it makes it to silage.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> it's
a game. who do they actually interdict, the "criminal" "biker gangs" ? << Much of this demographic is USG. Not in the informant sense, but USG peeps needed meanign in their lives.
decimation: otherwise the bureaucrats don't give
a fuck
mircea_popescu: it's
a game. who do they actually interdict, the "criminal" "biker gangs" ?
mircea_popescu: nah, the idea is that if you get
a good enough achievement, you get auto-diploma or w/e.
BingoBoingo: <decimation> my understanding is that europe it is common for ee's to be forced to work in actual 'electrical trade' for
a time << In hometown I once pulled permit to fuck with wiring by saying "Hey mayor Joe, sign this"
decimation: my understanding is that europe it is common for ee's to be forced to work in actual 'electrical trade' for
a time
mircea_popescu: europe uses 220 for residential, 380 optional. or otherwise you can get
a 2 or 5kv industrial line.
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> increasingly, becoming
a problem i nthe us, too. << tell me about it
BingoBoingo: Winter 2013-2014 we got weeks of subzero weather, but no lasting damage. Summer 2012 mega-drought (by midwest standards) best peaches ever no lasting damage. This year with
a bit cooler than normal summer and lots of rain... it looks like shit is going to be expensive for
a while
BingoBoingo: If the apple trees start breaking up like the peach trees when they put out fruit this year that will be
a double whammy rare, takes
a decade to catch up damage.
BingoBoingo: In
a month and
a half it will be interesting to see if edible apples happen this year.
BingoBoingo: Dry summers kill crops. Hot wet summers kill crops. The best
a we winter does here is offers crops
a marginal head start.
decimation: yeah makes sense. looks like usg's weather bureau is calling for
a cold and wet winter for the southern half of the us
BingoBoingo: I'd use
a stronger word than terribly, but... local fields look like shit. Shit corn and god only knows if the soy will produce beans before becoming silage. I expect the mold to cause more than
a few dairy die offs when it makes it to silage.
☟︎ BingoBoingo: There's already opiate shitting e. coli probably it will take one niche at
a time.
decimation: my understanding is that the fcc doesn't give
a fuck unless it interferes with broadcast radio or aircraft