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ben_vulpes: doesn't make the scytale an acceptable cipher
ang-st: well consider them neighboor with different coutume :)
mircea_popescu: working with the republic is entirely dependent on working ON republican methods.
mircea_popescu: im not going to use email.
ang-st: mircea_popescu: question@tetaneutral.net it you want to put a box there
ang-st: needed some time to figure out otp stuff
mircea_popescu: ang-st so what'd it cost me for you folks to host 1 sealed box, containing an opteron 6376 as above, cool it and feed it its required wattage and bw ?
asciilifeform: i have currently 3 boxen for pilot plant. all 3 contain 32cores of 'opteron 6376'. 2 of them contain 256M of ram; 1 currently has 24G ( can hold up to 256 ). each has 2 x G/sec nics, 2 x (reduntant) 700W ps . ☟︎
mircea_popescu: ang-st say !!up to deedbot in a pm, then !!v with the challenge string
mircea_popescu: well, also a cheap explanation as to why there's "flat earth" believers to this day. but we digress.
ang-st: juste an easy way to feel "high level"
ang-st: i feel that considering people as cow, or what ever, isn't a good way to make line move
asciilifeform digs in log. could've sworn i posted the specs
ang-st: sorry dunno the reference
mircea_popescu: ang-st my point, conversely, is that the general public is as human as the population of holstein cattle. nobody cares nor ever will.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: me ? i have the 3 pilot boxen as prev. catalogued. or you meant him
ang-st: my point is crypto concept are still miles away from general public (and i consider most user of ttnn as general public)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you wanna send one box on an adventure to these folk ?
ang-st: how long beetween the seminal RSA paper and it's widespread use ?
mircea_popescu: i don't know yet, there might be something here.
ang-st: but i think it's a bit early
mircea_popescu: ie the makers of the endless september, the " a burden if mandatory or simply ignored".
mircea_popescu: ang-st there's a matter of scope here, your => 4652.00 (total en moyenne mensuelle) is 2/3 or so of the random advance pushed out to one purveyor of eventual tmsr.isp. the republic is indeed mighty in this sense ; meanwhile there's also an ideological rub, the republic is dedicatedly elitist whereas from what i see the whole point of this tetaneutral thing is to support specifically those-who-should-not-be-permitted-online, ☟︎
ang-st: well you might give a try :-)
mircea_popescu: or is the idea here that user=partner
mircea_popescu: but your partners ? not tech savy either ?
ang-st: might work if most of our users were tech savy, but tbh the way it goes actually it would be a burden if mandatory or simply ignored beside some folks in any other cases
mircea_popescu: consider also the whole WoT infrastructure ( http://trilema.com/2014/what-the-wot-is-for-how-it-works-and-how-to-use-it/ and say http://wot.deedbot.org )
mircea_popescu: ang-st consider how this works here : http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=%21%21pay and http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=%21%21withdraw
mircea_popescu: as it happens we're right in the middle of building republican infrastructure, in principle at least as to what meets the eye very similar to whart you have there.
ang-st: well i tried to push for bitcoin at some point, but didn't get many support
mircea_popescu: also : any interest in moving your associates registration to the already existing and well developed deedbot WoT infrastrcture ? payments via same system, in bitcoin ?
ang-st: well, that's kind of stuff that you might talk at #tetaneutral.net
mircea_popescu: any interest in getting a rack or two in a similar squat somewhere in the colonies, algerie, morocco, whatever ?
mircea_popescu: what's that, like the old style interchange room ?
ang-st: well we have a true DC room, and an "assocative" one (as in french term association which stand for non profit org)
mircea_popescu: where, this ?
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes funny thing, i read a r in there.
deedbot: davout rated ang-st 1 << didn't run away screaming in the first ten minutes
mircea_popescu: do you have like what, a rack in toulouse ?
davout: !!rate ang-st 1 didn't run away screaming in the first ten minutes
ben_vulpes: neutral tits!
mircea_popescu: basically it's a whole pile of "how could i reinterpret the world through my firmly held notions of biblical truth". this is nice and good, provided a large solid comedy goldmine for the whole 1800s, "darwinism debate" still ongoing in particularily protected corners of the swamp.
a111: Logged on 2017-11-09 18:08 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-09#1735297 << ah, are you the dev.to guy ?
a111: Logged on 2017-11-09 18:10 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-09#1735296 << studiously ignored the "nobody holds any title to any bitcoin" portions of http://trilema.com/2012/the-reasons-why-bitcoin-securities-cant-be-regulated-by-the-sec/#selection-129.0-129.311 final and dispositive ruling on the matter.
asciilifeform: 'how many divisions has the pope?' (tm)(r)(iosif vissarionovich)
mircea_popescu: of course, the original pope trying for this ended up going around barefoot in the snow to beg forgiveness.
mircea_popescu: if all the "here's the usg-bitcoin, accept it in exchange" doesn't work as it hasn't with ripple/ethereum/bitcoin-core/crash/whatever, the only remaining avenue is the idly papal claim to "all the bitcoins".
asciilifeform: if 'all land belongs to the crown', and 'sea belongs', and 'radio spectrum belongs', etc. why not also bitcoin.
mircea_popescu: but yes, one'd fully expect pretend-sovereigns of the fiat ilk to arbitrarily assign themselves title in bitcoin. why the hell not, they've assinged themselves "representativity" of "society" and "justice" and "the environment" and so forth.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-09#1735296 << studiously ignored the "nobody holds any title to any bitcoin" portions of http://trilema.com/2012/the-reasons-why-bitcoin-securities-cant-be-regulated-by-the-sec/#selection-129.0-129.311 final and dispositive ruling on the matter. ☝︎☟︎
a111: Logged on 2017-11-09 17:43 ang-st: i guess the random guy having this random convo with me was davout
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-09#1735297 << ah, are you the dev.to guy ? ☝︎☟︎
a111: Logged on 2017-11-09 17:34 asciilifeform: as it is it barely can afford trucks that dun leak oil, much less any quantity of 'bigdog'
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-09#1735275 << hey, they traded in the frigates for "litteral completely sunk"s, somehow missing entirely the sad irony of blue-sea-unworthy frigate. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-11-09 17:33 asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: in any case it hasn't applied to generals ever since they stopped being expected to lead men on horseback into attack
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-09#1735271 << a general is a staff position, he sits on hill next to artillery not charges with cavalry. that's colonel at most. ☝︎
ben_vulpes: "and for as long as your citizens run free 802.* rebroadcasters, we're going to be utterly uninterdictable"
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: sorta was the impetus for asciilifeform's entire q -- can haz transoceanic radio that scales down to, e.g., suitcase
a111: Logged on 2017-11-07 20:01 asciilifeform: observe, the problem dun exist if you already have your own pyongyang and can happily put a megawatt station there and invite whoever objects, to pound sand up his arse
ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-07#1733631 << it occurred to me that the fortification model is entirely unsuited for war against the megastate. correct approach here is "we can deliver munitions anywhere within $city, even to a mobile individual." ☝︎
ang-st: will rtfm the stuff
ben_vulpes: good idea to do that sooner rather than later; provisional ratings are easy to come by for the newcomer who registers quickly, less so for the obstinate/self-important
ben_vulpes: ang-st: anyways, the way this place works is that you register a gpg key with deedbot, and then maybe someone gives you provisional membership in the list of folks that can give themselves speaking privileges
ang-st: asciilifeform: i think you can grab a bunch that are pretty active
asciilifeform: ang-st: asshole in C << koch, drepper, et al. but they're old and they ain't making more, for some reason.
ben_vulpes: gotta say, i've never seen the perfect asshole
ang-st: i was about to says rust :)
ben_vulpes: > because its authors are who they are
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: iirc thing has 'chrome' internally, so displaying a 8M gif prolly eats 8G
ben_vulpes: you know, the sort of thing that web pages do normally, but that js idiots can't figure out how to do
ang-st: even get a bounty if you're that kind of guy :)
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: where they show an image in the chat based on its link
ben_vulpes: ang-st: the other day i observed 'slack' fail to inline a 7.4 meg gif because its authors are who they are
ben_vulpes: what, you think electron isn't fifteen packaged browsers?
asciilifeform: 'if you’re worried you possess stolen coins and want to sell them, you may want to consult a lawyer first. The National Stolen Property Act could apply to intangible goods' << lol!!
ang-st: the "coutume" there ?
ben_vulpes: eyy davout what is this character going on about
ang-st: ben_vulpes: you're not on that channel and i guess it's priv8
ang-st: i guess the random guy having this random convo with me was davout ☟︎
ang-st: ok i prefer grep than talking so, it will be fine
ben_vulpes: ang-st: there are logs at http://logs.bvulpes.com/trilema and btcbase.org/logs for the idling
asciilifeform: ang-st: how about link to the 'random conversation' ?
ang-st: so i thought i might idle for a while, see what's going on
ang-st: a random conversation in the internet
asciilifeform: ( 1940s-era propeller fighters also would. but these cost moar money, and you gotta train somebody to fly, etc )
ben_vulpes: but yes, this is 'leaking oil'
ben_vulpes: predator and phriendz seem to work fine, so long as nobody's spoofing gps
asciilifeform: actually very closely resembles nazi army . yes, somewhere there is dr von braun with wunderwaffen. but mostly it's d00dz with old rifles.
asciilifeform: the fancy hardware that exists, is largely circa 1980s.
asciilifeform: as it is it barely can afford trucks that dun leak oil, much less any quantity of 'bigdog' ☟︎
asciilifeform: this'd be so if the army in the colour brochures were the actual usg army
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: in any case it hasn't applied to generals ever since they stopped being expected to lead men on horseback into attack ☟︎
asciilifeform: there was even some interest in usa, 'learn the game that built the strategy of the enemy!11' lulz
asciilifeform digs, but fails to find link , re incident where jp attaches taught go to the german general staff, and they actually played, until the house with the boards was destroyed in bombing raid
mircea_popescu: well... military men. it's like a profession. if your tax accountant sucks at go that doesn't necessarily disqualify him from his line of work.
asciilifeform: ( and in many of these 'great leaders' , head was not the strongest organ to begin with )
asciilifeform: sadly the head gives out 1st.
mircea_popescu: it's inexplicable, to me at least, how virility is not part of the army qualifying list, btw. "this dude does not look hot naked and therefore can no longer be an army general. retired." seems perfectly mandatory for a fucking army.
mircea_popescu: "sack all o10 and over that no longer have a supermodel mistress"