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mircea_popescu: ima meet you in game in
a bit give you some starter stuff.
ben_vulpes off to welcome $bizpartner back from
a week's vacation
phf:
a build process tool, relaytool, used in some ungodly way to produce
a dynamic libraries during build. uses bash to work and is so specified in #!... configure wants to run it by explicitly providing bash /bin/bash ./bin/relaytool. somehow doesn't detect bash, so calls /bin/sh instead, which puts bash in sh emulation mode and breaks relaytool. this, and much more, in todays adventures with eulora builds!
ben_vulpes: hanbot: yes, fails spectacularly to produce
a bitcoin and makes the operator take over patching at that point.
assbot: Searching pgp.mit.edu for key with fingerprint: DEF6F884324D1E384DC09C97F2CBD75211F125B2. This may take
a few moments.
hanbot: i'll have
a look at the test2 bit.
hanbot: i did. is there
a new&improved patching guide? i missed it if so
mircea_popescu: i guess this resolves our standing dispute re whores/programmers. turns out it was
a misunderstanding.
mircea_popescu: there is definitely
a lot of management involved in being
a competent computer handler, by the nature of the thing
mircea_popescu: dbit oh if you already have
a key just need it passed to assbot
mircea_popescu: the derps may call it "
A time management device", but hey.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform but i mean... you wouldn't propose the alarm clock is
a manager would you.
gribble: You rated user dbit on Mon Jul 28 12:01:35 2014, with
a rating of 3, and supplied these additional notes: None.
dbit: mircea_popescu, can I have
a Eulora account?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform management as generally understood say by dilbert's strip is
a sort of dour nagging.
mircea_popescu: kinda why it's very bad "fiction" : it presents us the nonsensical construct of
a lone man that's part of the british empire.
mircea_popescu: well, he follows
a script he carried over (in his memory), which was given him by people, rather than discovered by him on his own time.
mircea_popescu: management is
a complicated thing. like persay robinson crusoe (as depicted by defoe) was certainly managed.
mircea_popescu: what the fuck lmao. "filesharing" ? it's not even
a thing.
mircea_popescu: "2. Box: The online filing sharing company is poised to go public on Friday after
a number of false starts. But Box recently revealed it suffered
a $170 million loss in its latest year of results."
mircea_popescu: but the "here is" part somehow never occured. there's
a 5-15 year overlap where the will and had overlap.
phf: asciilifeform: but yeah, of course that was his side of the story. he was not
a particularly good teacher, but he knew his shit, re spatial data structures
phf: asciilifeform: i think his class was
a entry level elective, so
a bunch of special snowflakes took it to distinguish themselves on transcript
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform this is
a good idea incidewntally. if i ran the school, it'd be "this class fails 90% - if the teacher doesn't flunk that many we'll draw lots, but student body DOES get decimated one way or another"
phf: mircea_popescu: there's an internal conflict resolution body, which essentially mirrors us court system. when i had some issues with the school, i was immediately advised to higher
a lawyer by every random student i talked to about it
phf:
a prof at umd (hanan samet, he did his grad work at stanford under john mccarthy) told me that he tried teaching SICP for
a semester, with the predictable result of 90% failure rate. equally predictably parents started calling dean's office and sent in lawyers, the grades were nullified and his teaching methods questioned, of course he never tried teaching SICP again
phf: that's
a correct hash
phf: xcode comes with clang/llvm and
a bogus llvm-gcc, which pretends to be gcc, except fails on all kinds of obscure flags, and certainly doesn't respect gcc semantics
phf: ben_vulpes: have you been brew update'ing? i'm looking at the latest log and it looks like an older version of
a script. `git -C $(brew --repository)/Library/Taps/pf/homebrew-eulora log|head -1|awk '{print $2}'` should return ce6d58194e2371ac9d4295e3a9a336fe6e44c548
phf: williamdunne: i guess i might've also did
a wild guess, i assume you're getting some standard-objects from somewhere, and they come out as #<FOO #x123123> or somesuch and you're trying to figure out, what's inside of them. you can (inspect foo) to see the insides of the object on repl, or you can call that (defmethod ...) and then every time an object is displayed on repl it's going to be displayed as #<FOO (value . 1) (value2 . "hello")> i
williamdunne: phf: Objects aren't created in
a very accessible manner. Simply received from an event
mod6: <+ben_vulpes> after much derping, i have
a rotor-built stator bitcoind << heeey! neat. :]
ben_vulpes: after much derping, i have
a rotor-built stator bitcoind
mircea_popescu: the only legitimate way to become
a king is at the hands of
a priest whose knees are trembling.
phf: williamdunne: not builtin, but here's
a generic object printer,
http://paste.lisp.org/display/153363. if you have an instance of
a class, you'll get #<FOO (
A . 1) (B . "test") C #x123123> (where C is unbound)
mircea_popescu: anyway, i'm penning
a "racists and the racist idea" piece, should help.
ben_vulpes: fair unsurprising, one has to toe that line to keep
a twitter account
mircea_popescu: nama see above link, where it says "first steps in #b-
a"
phf: i've met xach
a few times at post-ilc pub sessions, i think he's doing lisp consulting for clozure, but yeah i don't really know the details. i think him, fare, etc. would dismiss this place on superficial grounds being self proclaimed feminists. last i checked fare's twitter it was an equal mix of lisp conversations and sjw rhetoric
phf: asciilifeform: well, he provides
a valuable service of hosting both naggum and rob warnock archives
williamdunne: Cheers ben :) yeah does look
a little batshit to setup in buntu
mats: I had
a dream I got three scoops of guac at chipotle
ben_vulpes: i had
a dream that i figured out how to never recompile openssl again
trinque: williamdunne: if you're in
a slime repl, you can simply make mention of the symbol and right click the thing, and inspect
williamdunne: trinque: punkman: know how I can dump
a representation of an object to
a string?
trinque: only because the others hide
a detail lisp displays honestly, the AST
williamdunne: Yeah, I'll get that done. It's
a really strange language coming from some of the more "modern" ones
trinque: emacs is the only sane choice, and there are
a number of modes for that
williamdunne: Although evidently he doesn't quite understand the concept of
a private message yet
williamdunne: Umm, it was my best interpretation of someone with
a severe lisp saying "scoopbot"
punkman: if you notice, only
a few of the things need explicit UTF8 support there
punkman: I like that there's
a column named "Finished"
trinque: would I think mostly be
a change of the STAGE3 line
trinque: asciilifeform: shall when it does
a blockdev
trinque: working on it hitting
a block device now
trinque: currently farts out
a root.img which can be run in qemu