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hanbot: asciilifeform from http://trilema.com/2017/the-world-has-changed/ : "A Nagant's always good to keep nearby, don't wonder why. Bye." no britishness detectored

mircea_popescu: but i mean the "no such" specifically.

a111: Logged on 2017-11-13 00:14 hanbot: spyked i lolled; also "use the remaining to produce milk for four cows." might be better stated as "use the remaining to produce four cows' worth of milk." or similar

spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-13#1736974 <-- oh, thanks! :D /me makes changes ☝︎

mircea_popescu: spyked lotta people have that same sufferance.

asciilifeform: ( was a somewhat different animal before pc comp . split b/w actual signal-gathering , bug-plantin', supplying idjit hagelin crypto boxen to ~every major country, etc )

a111: Logged on 2017-11-13 00:10 mircea_popescu: apparently this magic wand works so why noit shake it s`more :D

spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-13#1736972 <-- I did follow in read-only mode. (and unfortunately suspecting that I will continue to do so until upcoming vacation, when I can start doing ~actual productive work) the principle being, I either read daily, or logs pile up and I fall continuously out of sync. (almost happened last weekend!) ☝︎

mircea_popescu: i missed all that.

mircea_popescu: "For decades after its creation in 1952, the N.S.A. — No Such Agency, in the old joke —" << check it out alf, teh times is retconning it into "an old joke"

a111: Logged on 2017-11-13 00:16 hanbot: also Goodbye or Good Afternoon might work better on the Bye of the British, somehow the shortening sounds yankee

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-13#1736975 << iirc mircea_popescu had a rhyme where 'a nagant's good to eat, dun ask why, bye' ☝︎

mircea_popescu: if only ants could speak they'd be no less entertaining.

mircea_popescu: T.A.O. operators must constantly renew their arsenal to stay abreast of changing software and hardware, examining every Windows update and new iPhone for vulnerabilities. “The nature of the business is to move with the technology,” a former T.A.O. hacker said.

mircea_popescu: it'd appear then it was a seedling that grew up in the manner of folk productions

mircea_popescu: when is this dated ?

asciilifeform: oh hey it came back from the archives , mircea_popescu :

hanbot: also Goodbye or Good Afternoon might work better on the Bye of the British, somehow the shortening sounds yankee ☟︎

hanbot: spyked i lolled; also "use the remaining to produce milk for four cows." might be better stated as "use the remaining to produce four cows' worth of milk." or similar ☟︎

mircea_popescu: apparently this magic wand works so why noit shake it s`more :D ☟︎

mircea_popescu: i... wonder what she's up to.

a111: Logged on 2017-10-01 04:06 mircea_popescu: "If pet food companies used the same business model as startups: Jim creates a dog food factory and gives away dog food for free. 450 million dogs line up for free dog food. Purina Dog Chow understands that non-paying dog food consumers are currency, and buys Jim’s factory for $42 per dog." << in other historical elaineo lulz.

spyked: ftr, I got the idea starting from elaineo's thing (via http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-01#1719047 ) ☝︎

asciilifeform: (or any of the ancient fidonet countries)

mircea_popescu: i alwsays suspected that was an original english (or french) item stoletranslated to ro as the practice was at the time

asciilifeform: ( the cows thing )

mircea_popescu: next they're going to win the world series, these people.

mircea_popescu: bwahahaha "The agency regarded as the world’s leader in breaking into adversaries’ computer networks failed to protect its own." what, is this from "the fake news site regarded (by itself) as the most influential item in the world, above even trilema, and staffed with people from the premiere (according to themselves) institution in the world" ?

spyked: but will drop teleschpenker a line and ask him if he's interested. (also, his rates, if any. from my pov the text is public and so on, I'm not exactly in the translation profession)

spyked: anyway. I was going to give the translation a shot either way, to work out translation muscle.

spyked: not only the last line.

mircea_popescu: spyked the romanian you pasted contains an english-language last line.

mircea_popescu: and your idea is not good. first you talk to him in principle, then you do the script, then etc. cinema has a flow!

spyked: mircea_popescu, last line? also, no, haven't spoken to him. my idea was to just post this on blog and then ask him if he's willing to translate (refer log and so on). could also do it the other way around, not sure.

mircea_popescu: spyked do you have an agreement in principle with the guy or anything though ?

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: usg long ago gave up on intel in the traditional sense . e.g. nsa 'restaurant menu' consists ~100% of vulns they themselves created.

mircea_popescu: moved industry to china, moved army to afghanistanis, pakistanis, whoever else could be arsed, move intel to israel next and so on.

asciilifeform: i have not yet had the pleasure of this disease. just as i have not yet suffered what the chukchas get from walrus-only diet in lean months etc

mircea_popescu: it is. you get it in like, greek islands. sun too nice to burn but you do too much of it as a non-local

asciilifeform: possibly because i'd turn black long before changing vitamind overload

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: interesting, i had nfi this was a thing

spyked: ah! mircea_popescu (and possibly other folks interested in ro-en translations)! almost forgot: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/86l91/?raw=true <-- to drill. need to make 1-2 passes through it before sending to silviu gherman d00d. (been also watching his stuff, guy has grown on me!)

mircea_popescu: mostly D vitamin overload (nausea, lack of appetite, that sorta thing)

asciilifeform: '“Snowden killed morale,” another T.A.O. analyst said. “But at least we knew who he was. Now you have a situation where the agency is questioning people who have been 100 percent mission-oriented, telling them they’re liars.”'

mircea_popescu: there's this condition, entirely metabolic, not dermatologic, resulting from overexposure (as in 6 hours) to sun.

mats speculates next five-year plan includes thiel-ization of intel apparatus - booz allens and stratfors

mircea_popescu: maybe this isn't how you call this in english.

asciilifeform: over here i get 20min and then begin to cook, even carry a dosimeter thing

asciilifeform recalls c3 and ~week spent in the sun, and 0 burn ☟︎

mircea_popescu: notrly, i dun think

mircea_popescu: the weather is so fucking perfect and the sun so pleasant you just dun realise it. slowroast, no burn but TOO MUCH D VITAMIN OMG

asciilifeform: lolhey mircea_popescu back to sea again ??

mircea_popescu: problem solved. /me submits his bill and goes back to yachting.

mircea_popescu: then not in america they don't have intel.

mats: mircea_popescu: not in america they don't.

spyked: (and by publish I mean "item that is in sore need of a review")

mircea_popescu: mats there's no such thing as "fire" in this line. you, literally, shoot them. all.

asciilifeform: mats: as it is, the ~marketable half of the iq bell curve, already resigned and went into 'contracts'

spyked: need to connect them together and publish

mircea_popescu: mats much better task than trying to "reform" mediocre intel.

mats: what can you even do? fire every remotely interesting guy and bus in tufts/harvard grads?

asciilifeform: 'Some T.A.O. employees have been asked to turn over their passports, take time off their jobs and submit to questioning'

mats: rebuilding massive intel apparatus after OPM-sized breaks is an unenviable task

mircea_popescu: spyked how far advanced is this thing ?

asciilifeform: nao for the money shot from the lul, 'But he says no one from the N.S.A. has contacted him about being singled out publicly by the Shadow Brokers. “That feels like a betrayal,” he said. “I was targeted by the Shadow Brokers because of that work. I do not feel the government has my back.”'

a111: Logged on 2017-11-12 23:13 asciilifeform: ( if your script runs for long enough that it needs gc -- maybe it oughta instead be an actual proggy ? )

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-12#1736845 << this actually might be the perfect definition of the terms. "a program that doesn't need garbage collection is called a script ; a script that needs garbage collection is called a program". ☝︎

asciilifeform: ( though the bolix shipped with the opposite, an adatron in zetalisp )

mircea_popescu: this could turn out into a pretty big deal.

asciilifeform: outside of this -- none published

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: spyked seems to have answered asciilifeform's thrown gauntlet and writing one

mircea_popescu: a how's tricks mats

mats: p transparent after OPM leak...

mircea_popescu: but as things are now it's nothing short of ridiculous.

mircea_popescu: hey. this situatuion where usg is more transparent than fresh piss is not tenable. either it abolishes itself or fixes it

asciilifeform: 'N.S.A. employees have been subjected to polygraphs and suspended from their jobs in a hunt for turncoats allied with the Shadow Brokers. Much of the agency’s cyberarsenal is still being replaced, curtailing operations' << gold

mircea_popescu: re library, time was 2week for general fund, and 1week for some specialized, and 1 day for particular stuff ; going down from there, was stuff you could only have 1hr at a time and waiting list >1month long.

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform u is perfect fit for roboticized mining. very little by-hand mining done anymore anyway, but uranium mining led teh trade

mircea_popescu: o hay there

asciilifeform: ng technical details that made clear they knew about highly classified hacking operations that he had conducted'

asciilifeform: meanwhile, in other volkischer beobachter lulz, https://archive.is/NS8Mr >> 'Mr. Williams had written on his company blog about the Shadow Brokers... Now the group had replied in an angry screed on Twitter. It identified him — correctly — as a former member of the National Security Agency’s hacking group, Tailored Access Operations, or T.A.O., a job he had not publicly disclosed. Then the Shadow Brokers astonished him by droppi

spyked figures out he has a lot of work to do. but this -- after current code receives proper drilling from other interested people.

asciilifeform: and for that matter of the ada std lib - using part ( once the debuggery put_line's in ffa are done away with )

asciilifeform: the posted unit is the entirety of the machine-dependent part of 'p'.

spyked: asciilifeform, ty! I will study and put to use.

asciilifeform: and yes we import the c char routines. but these can be replaced on bare iron with reads/writes of uart, trivially. or anything else we want.

spyked will keep this in mind

asciilifeform: the less use is made of ada standard libs, the moar likely the thing is to survive transition to whatever ada-with-maximal-dross-jettisonned that we eventually end up with.

spyked: on Get(Char), ada (at least gnat) seems to consume everything but linefeeds (even control characters such as EOT)

asciilifeform: your proggy should never try to eat or shit more than 1 char at a shot

spyked: e.g. ada I/O is not especially suited for this task, because it reads either characters or full lines; and reading characters doesn't eat newlines, so gotta rely on shell buffering for sane interaction.

asciilifeform: parsing sanely (i.e. with meaningful eggog-recoveries) is tricky business

spyked: though there's devil hiding in those details

spyked: single routine is probably boring (I expect asciilifeform knows better than me how S-expr parsing works)

spyked: asciilifeform, I considered doing that, but it's big enough (spread across 3-4 compilation units) that I'll need to wrap in blog post and do some preliminary documentation work

asciilifeform: spyked: it's ok to post it 1 routine at a time ( as i do with ffa )

asciilifeform: ( this is how 'p' works, as you will see in near future )

asciilifeform: spyked: ideally you tell it on commandlinearg how much memory the script shot gets. and if it tries to cons 1 time too many, that's a eggog

spyked: right now the thing does a whole lot of consing (e.g. even when parsing), to avoid using ada run-time. but yeah, not posted, I'm talking about ~non-existing item.

asciilifeform: i'd much like to try it