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asciilifeform: ( in re yesterday's thread where http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-13#1737159 ) ☝︎
asciilifeform: 'Tesla’s CEO seems to be fully unaware of why industrial robots have limits, affecting actuators, speed and precision when handling heavy parts reliably and minimal downtime. Air friction is certainly no constraint, but moments, acceleration and deceleration. '
a111: Logged on 2017-11-13 12:44 mircea_popescu: this is not "true for very many keys like a billion trillion keys". this is true all the way up, by the time one's made 10^609 keys we're starting to get into five-nines assurance of unicity.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-13#1737177 << nobody's ever running out of these ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-11-13 11:43 mircea_popescu: this is evidently a "loss" of entropy, in the sense that what is advertised (4096) differs from what is actually delivered (no more than 4090). i am of a good mind to start calling them 4090 bit keys tbh.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-13#1737171 << the only properly forced loss is of the bottom bit ☝︎
asciilifeform: ( picture extending this by induction : 'why not glue another 1 after that 1 , lest we end up with sub-4095...' )
a111: Logged on 2017-11-13 11:40 mircea_popescu: the reason you stick the first 1 in the front is, evidently, to not end up with sub-4096 Ns
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-13#1737169 << iirc we had a thread , re this spectacular lul ☝︎
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> in other news : it was established in teh minigame torture rooms that in point of fact 4096 bit keys contain only 4090 bits of entropy at the very most (minus whatever koch-gpg manages to shave off in other ways). << uugh. every time we peel a layer back...
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mircea_popescu: this is not "true for very many keys like a billion trillion keys". this is true all the way up, by the time one's made 10^609 keys we're starting to get into five-nines assurance of unicity. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: the chances of such repeating happening naturally'd be ~the inverse of ∏(1 - 2i/6.5e612), 1<i<n where n is the number of keys ever made. fortunately this evaluates to "never" on all extant iron.
mircea_popescu: anyway, back to rsa discussion : there's about 6.5e612 primes in the interval 2^2045-1, 0 (by teh prime number theorem). every key needs a pair of these, and no number can EVER be repeated (if it is -- phuctor breaks both keys).
diana_coman: p and q are different so there won't be exactly this limit case there, but obv same 4095 bits n instead of 4096 for other low-enough odd numbers that might be primes
mircea_popescu: this is evidently a "loss" of entropy, in the sense that what is advertised (4096) differs from what is actually delivered (no more than 4090). i am of a good mind to start calling them 4090 bit keys tbh. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: the reason you stick the 2nd 1 in front is, not evidently, also to not end up with sub-4096 Ns : if you had the exceptional case of your primes being each 2^2047 + 1 your N would then be 2^4094+2^2048+1, which is shorter than 4096 bits.
mircea_popescu: the reason you stick the first 1 in the front is, evidently, to not end up with sub-4096 Ns ☟︎
mircea_popescu: the reason you stick the 1 in the tail is to ensure odd numbers -- large even numbers are never prime. this much is a math-forced reduction.
mircea_popescu: the reason is that (in a translation of what koch-gpg does into sanity) you take 2045 bits of rng for each possible prime, stick 11 in front and 1 in the tail and THAT is your 2048 bit prime candidate.
mircea_popescu: in other news : it was established in teh minigame torture rooms that in point of fact 4096 bit keys contain only 4090 bits of entropy at the very most (minus whatever koch-gpg manages to shave off in other ways).
ag3nt_zer0: Never been in a place that has equaled that in regards to my definition of a warm home... looking forward to learning more of Ingels ☟︎
ag3nt_zer0: it was stylistically almost a copy of the first slide here: http://www.theadanews.com/news/local_news/a-visit-to-taliesin-frank-lloyd-wright-s-wisconsin-estate/article_eea7de5b-a7a0-5678-8035-01af370b94a3.html
ag3nt_zer0: pete_dushenski http://www.contravex.com/2017/11/12/bigs-vancouver-house-the-last-pied-a-terre-youll-ever-need/#identifier_6_19987 <<< thanks for the introduction to Ingels. My family is from a small town near Wright's Taliesin and a good old family friend of mine owned a classic FLW student-designed house that sat on 40 acres above Lake Wisconsin - I practically lived in that house for 3 seasons one year and there is really nothin
asciilifeform: so it is quite in keeping with this, for it to , say, pioneer 'robot works in vacuum, and moves without hindrance of air resistance, ReallyFast!' etc ☟︎
asciilifeform: 'tesla' of course is not a commercial op in the usual sense, but rather an elaborate fraud prop, similar to a konsoomer-flavoured lockheedmartin
BingoBoingo: If Hu cares to
asciilifeform: if actually care about capex -- speed up, or better yet, eliminate -- the ~meat~ in your line.
asciilifeform: as for 'critical to capex', vey rarely is robot the chokepoint in the line.
asciilifeform: this is an entire field, i cannot begin to sum it up here. but even in 19th c machinists understood 'fast cut xor accurate cut'
asciilifeform: just because thing can 'move faster than you can see' dun mean that it stops on a dime, or that it won't oscillate ( ever see rifle barrel on high speed camera? ) , ring like a bell, destroy whatever illusion of accuracy.
asciilifeform: the 'tecan evo' i worked with ( small industrial gantry bot ) could make fully 100x faster motions than vendor recommended . BUT -- 1) the default winblowz turdware ( that afaik every installation other than mine, used , lock stock etc ) would result eventually in smashed equipment, dead bearings, and possibly injured meat and ..
a111: Logged on 2017-11-13 04:46 mats: "And we are pushing robots to the limit in terms of the speed that they can operate at, and asking our suppliers to make robots go way faster, and they are shocked because nobody has ever asked them that question. It's like if you can see the robot move, it's too slow. We should be caring about air friction like things moving so fast. You should need a strobe light to see it. And that's incredibly critical to CapEx
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-13#1737142 << i gotta bite this bait: ☝︎
BingoBoingo: I thought needing a strobe light to see was something young boys learned escaping Kevin Spacey's basement
mats: "And we are pushing robots to the limit in terms of the speed that they can operate at, and asking our suppliers to make robots go way faster, and they are shocked because nobody has ever asked them that question. It's like if you can see the robot move, it's too slow. We should be caring about air friction like things moving so fast. You should need a strobe light to see it. And that's incredibly critical to CapEx ☟︎
BingoBoingo: "Instead of fetching your slippers they’ll shit on them without remorse, as if keenly aware that ruining your property would be insulting to you. Instead of sleeping next to you, ready, and waiting in guard position, they will find a comfy spot squarely on your forehead, burrow down and screech to high heaven if you motion to remove them. Rinse and repeat they will, despite many deserved beatings. Brats."
BingoBoingo: In other mine chaff: "What the fuck… that is the most messed up thing I ever read. I am not European just because I have white skin, you sicko. I do not relate to the experiences of white people, why would I identify with them? You probably have an inferiority complex and feel the need to pretend you’re white because you hate yourself."
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: What more is there to say, Spent good chunk of the day learning from the weapon of mass destruction in my passenger seat.
mircea_popescu: big enough to drop pots off shelves and shit
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I've been ferrying a miss trainwreck around as favor to her sponsor. Very entertaining ordeal.
jhvh1: 12. Having had a spiritual awakening as the result of these steps, we tried to carry this message to alcoholics, and to practice these principles in all our affairs.
BingoBoingo back from ferrying a little miss trainwreck around.
a111: Logged on 2017-01-27 23:36 asciilifeform: (i was once, and i shit thee not, 'research chemist'. not because knew any chemistry, but because there was -- i shit thee not -- no box to 'tick' in the form, for 'programmer')
mircea_popescu: i think this is my point.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: if it has no 'supply code' , 10x the paperwork to buy
mircea_popescu: how come everything these people do is wankery "with a nsn"
asciilifeform: on top of this, 'out of stock !'
mats: i've heard a number of stories with folks using pointy end of empty rifle to strike dwelling inhabitants during breach&clear, jokesters bringing hatchets, axes, machetes for MOUT, etc
asciilifeform: ( this is a good habit for everyday life, when standing up a box , i will note )
asciilifeform: as in, the 8000 or whatever that you apparently use to talk to the 'talker' , is unwittingly externally routed.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform honestly, i believe there's 0 expectation on the part of us army that anyone under that flag will ever fight again. "you wanna shoot, join the police wtf! army is for "assisting local combatants"
mircea_popescu seems to recall this is the problem the original english also encountered. "these colonists dun understand how fighting wars works!!"
mircea_popescu: what if the fucker isn't in formation tho
asciilifeform: do they have an aftermarket iron butt end or wat
mats: i passed out after getting hit in formation the one time
asciilifeform: ( can't well fight with the plastic toy stock )
asciilifeform: what are you expected to fight with if 0 ammo ?
mats: also don't train to fight with bayonet anymore either
mats: too many recruits fucking it up and getting people recycled to start
asciilifeform: mats: what do they teach ? how to humanely shoot ?
a111: Logged on 2017-08-31 03:12 asciilifeform: hey mats did usg schutzstaffel corps teachya to set legs ?
mats: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-31#1707146 << lolno, combat lifesaver training doesn't even do iv bag insertion anymore ☝︎
mircea_popescu: is this the bot being vulnerabilized ?
ben_vulpes: lol well ratelimiting appears to work
mircea_popescu: b, n right next to each other. geddit ? it's ANOTHER joke. wrapped in a poon.
mircea_popescu: jsm. could come with a handy "pronounciation guide", which the sort of tard outfits listing "evanghelist" and "at large" on their "Careers" page always include in their god-awful "phonetic" pigdin i mean peeg-deen
asciilifeform: something, anything, with moar imagination than the gods gave a gnat
mircea_popescu: see, cuz then it could be cleverly JSM
asciilifeform: something that dun scream 'georgetown dc synthetic wine'
asciilifeform: they ought try a... say... fuckpigs.com
mircea_popescu: (funny shit, too, wasn't "medium" gonna be IT last year ? now "steemit" ? next month "wegiveup", the "platform for america" ?)
mircea_popescu: conceivably SOME of that came other than "because we published in today's mp-wp clone-wannabe"
mircea_popescu: that was for the lifetime\
asciilifeform: tho wasn't there a 10btc earlier
asciilifeform: aaaaa i misread the units
asciilifeform: and them titz are spent neh
mircea_popescu: chick wrote on her tits. made her...
mircea_popescu: the shadow brokers wrote a post, with the shit they did. made them... 19.81
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-12#1736465 << this one ☝︎
asciilifeform: waitasec someone answered that one and made a sane registrar ?!
mircea_popescu: sooner or later it gotta get through teh skulls that no, there's no "power in the multitudes".
mircea_popescu: just... the http://trilema.com/2014/namecheap-goes-off-the-deep-end-anyone-know-a-decent-domain-registrar/#selection-283.0-299.347 has to be underscored a little. so programming student made on the basis of market application over 20 minutes SIX TIMES what the shadow brokers made by posting for the general web public.
mircea_popescu: EXCEPT THIS TIME ITS DIFFERENT
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i dunno, some random dorks "reinventing" some web or the other.
asciilifeform: ah it's the spamreddit with pay-per-click nonsense innit.
asciilifeform: dafuq's that
mircea_popescu: https://archive.is/zNqEo << potential payout $19.81 (in 6 days). but unlike the http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-12#1736478 "steemit" has a "whitepaper". and besides, the new york times doesn't pretend it doesn't exist. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: if only they had the sense to be in the pizzeria line a few years ago!
mircea_popescu: in other lulz : 19BY2XCgbDe6WtTVbTyzM9eR3LYr6VitWK, the btc address printed on some "shadow brokers blog", got almost enough money for a small boat.
asciilifeform: ( bamford is the original -- and for some decades the only -- 'nsa biographer' )
asciilifeform: '"Were they living today," quips author Bamford, "[they] would probably defect all over again."' (2007)
mircea_popescu: reasoning by simile, the priviledge of dying empires.
asciilifeform: 'The NSA immediately began searching for other sexual deviants in its ranks, eventually purging 26 employees suspected of being security risks because of their alleged "perversions."' prettygreat.
a111: Logged on 2017-10-08 12:23 spyked: http://www.220.ro/umor-romanesc/Horatiu-Malaele-2-Vaci/nUSRHOCJEP/ <-- ro. only, unfortunately; also buried under piles of shitads, but I salvaged the videofile.
spyked: speaking of which, that last "bye" is also part of the orig. thing (i.e. http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-08#1722535 ). hopefully whoever does this also studies the original thing, the acting makes about half of it. ☝︎
asciilifeform: hanbot: ah yea that was it
mircea_popescu: i recall that part.