asciilifeform: not ONE rocket or tank or ... any.

asciilifeform: korea vets.

asciilifeform: and some VERY old men pulled in a wagon thing behind a jeep

asciilifeform: buncha high school bands from midwest.

asciilifeform: it was mightily depressing

asciilifeform: in related nyooz i saw what passes for an american military parade today

asciilifeform: ah hm.

asciilifeform wishes mircea_popescu a quick return to battle form.

asciilifeform: damn.

asciilifeform: perhaps it's that plague

asciilifeform: mosquito bites ?

asciilifeform: i can tell he is throwing things.

asciilifeform: did mircea_popescu get bitten by peron's zombie or wut.

asciilifeform: well obviously not in the 'every bloke with cannon a pythagoras' sense.

asciilifeform: dun like this standard? complain to god of war, not me.

asciilifeform: just like in 15th c. cannoneer and trigonometer was identical.

asciilifeform: and pgp is liable to resolve to 'build it'.

asciilifeform: if you can't pgp you are a beast of the field.

asciilifeform: it makes a difference precisely where the rifle does.

asciilifeform: not in peano's.

asciilifeform: know in the rifle sense.

asciilifeform: or can't wire a light.

asciilifeform: just like folk who haven't any clue how to adjust rifle for wind and fall.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: this is a defensible position, but so is the fact that folks who don't know what a prime number is are beasts of the field.

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-30#1473835 << i'ma have to reread the original mircea_popescu-vs-locklin thing aren't i. ☝︎

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-30#1473834 << eh hey i get it, sure, mircea_popescu is odoacer, and doesn't give half a rat's arse if anybody ever builds another aqueduct or blows a glass vase, esp not if it's a stinking dickless city-dwellin' pedo, etc. ☝︎

asciilifeform bbl

asciilifeform: now there are 2.

asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: was one of my 4, yes

asciilifeform: (who remembers what it was..?)

asciilifeform: in fact, that's what killed 'bucephalus'.

asciilifeform: i do have the keys to a place with a rack, but it has own problems (no cooling in the summer on weekends and roof has been known to leak...)

asciilifeform: *for the

asciilifeform: paying largely from the human-free space ~around~ it.

asciilifeform: phf: i live in tiny overpriced house thing.

asciilifeform: if anyone tuned in is interested in such experiment, please write in.

asciilifeform: (no cellar)

asciilifeform: i haven't the provisions for cooling or noise isolation.

asciilifeform: this was discussed in older thread.

asciilifeform: i would already have built 10 if i had where to put.

asciilifeform dun look at me, i have nuffin'!111

asciilifeform: at this point the only thing that can be asked is for the thing to be more often up than down...

asciilifeform: i don't expect to find a massively improved commercial server anywhere, for the reasons mircea_popescu described.

asciilifeform: noted.

asciilifeform: nor is it possible to easily decide this through mechanical means.

asciilifeform: or whether the trb on the box is worth using any moar

asciilifeform: i have nfi, for instance, what - if anything - was removed from, or added to, db

asciilifeform: perhaps only as 'horse's head'

asciilifeform: but apparently the monkeys need it, for some reason, to be off.

asciilifeform: or.

asciilifeform: it is the principle of the matter, i have nfi who did what to the disk while it was off.

asciilifeform: well, thing doesn't suffer from resets per se.

asciilifeform: but with phuctor we have the sad of both worlds, expensive AND porous.

asciilifeform: i recall.

asciilifeform: and yes mircea_popescu described his system of disposable proxies and inner boxes guarded by legionaries or how it went.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: you can retract the spikes, no one was proling at you.

asciilifeform: (not saying the no-secrets-save-for-sshkey phuctor box is comparable, but simply for argument)

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: would you tolerate mpex on a box like this ?

asciilifeform: afaik we haven't tried non-nato world yet tho.

asciilifeform: but so far evidence is negative.

asciilifeform: it would be great if there existed isp worth using.

asciilifeform: i have genuinely nfi

asciilifeform: as always.

asciilifeform: phuctor, trb

asciilifeform: mircea_popescutronic box, s.nsa

asciilifeform: i only got 1

asciilifeform: (a few hundy)

asciilifeform: not even piston engine airplane is 3k/hr.

asciilifeform: phf: that's what, a litre/second ?! what was on the boat, jet engine ?

asciilifeform: this sort of thing never goes out of style.

asciilifeform: re symbolics keyboards, barbarians smashed roman frescoes to decorate sword handles.

asciilifeform: my neighbour owns a boat that, i think, has not felt the sea water in decades.

asciilifeform: even expensive trucks that have never seen a load of bricks or cement

asciilifeform: at any rate, not all cargo cults are the same! in an american home, you are much more likely to find barbells nobody lifts, elaborate exercise machinery that is rusted solid, etc.

asciilifeform: i wonder why they even bother putting in the text

asciilifeform: but if you open, it is on loathesome toilet-like paper

asciilifeform: you can recognize them by the gold trim

asciilifeform: lulzily, in usa they print special editions of 'classics' for this use

asciilifeform: and i imagine it must suck to be the owner of a real airplane landed on cargo cult island, it will promptly be ripped apart for parts to decorate straw planes the moment you look away ☟︎

asciilifeform: phf: you reminded me of sov legend of some bloke who bought up a buncha 'deficit' bookz, e.g., complete dumas, and put an iron railroad bolt through the stack and then put on shelf, so guests wouldn't try to borrow'em

asciilifeform: quite analogous to 'linear Alps', for those who've used these.

asciilifeform: no click to speak of

asciilifeform: *miserable

asciilifeform: but the miserably switches, not so much.

asciilifeform: the lack of arrow keys, at least, could be seen from photo

asciilifeform: (i have both types here)

asciilifeform: lulzily, i was quite disappointed with the switches.

asciilifeform: but against the jwzs, the 'i just wanted to's, the amulet-peddlers.

asciilifeform: not so much even against the copyrasts, thought they are pestilential like mosquitoes in some parts of the world,

asciilifeform: same role as the walls of cambridge, with their arrow-slits.

asciilifeform: 'great library' is eminently possible, just waiting on gossipd.

asciilifeform: just as dead as classical greece was in 1200.

asciilifeform: and yes, the ~cultural institutions~ that produced my library, are dead as dodo. ☟︎

asciilifeform: other than the lower snr.

asciilifeform: phf: in no sense different from the situation on the ground in, say, 1200s cambridge.

asciilifeform: (i will not dignify american school, where i went, with word 'education'. it is more of a kind of prison. where, yes, you can perhaps find the time to read books. but it is not why you are in the prison)

asciilifeform: cultured people in all times of decline are aware of said decline.

asciilifeform: i.e. what my brother went to.

asciilifeform: relatedly, and hilariously, in sov era, the phrase 'classical education' meant, to educated folks, the imperial ru gymnasium, per old euro spec, with latin and greek. and ~all of the great ru writers, INCLUDING sov era, had this education, were old enough. whereas TODAY 'classical education' in ru refers to sov era school !

asciilifeform: diana_coman: mircea_popescu and i had this wild thread where he actually pissed on the old books directly