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mircea_popescu: trinque ^ that sound like sense ? "you get this rack for a year, to be paid $x every mon" ?
mircea_popescu: i expect the correct solution will be weekly payments on yearly contracts. otherwise we end up encouraging antieconomic behaviour.
mircea_popescu: b) btc goes to $1. you're now on the hook for the same 3.5k, but if you didn't change the BTC to cash as you received it, you have no way to cover for it. this possibility makes just like a, people not want to pay long term.
a111: Logged on 2017-11-15 06:28 BingoBoingo: Mind that ~0.6 ish BTC hit this year to home a server would mean ISP exists for next year when FX risk likely takes more favorable turn and cost basis starts diminishing
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-15#1738811 << there's significant FX exposure in this scheme. consider the situations : someone pays you .6 BTC to whatever. a) BTC goes to 1mn usd ; he has now paid you 600k to do work worth 4k or so. this eventuality tends to discourage longer term payments. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: you just say "VAT". it can not be said, this word, by itself. it must be introduced, and retrospective half-ass, i'm not even gonna mention the % is rather infuriating.
a111: Logged on 2017-11-15 06:14 BingoBoingo: Mind that this includes minimum viable commercial address (comes with locker, desk and coffee) for 244 monthly after VAT
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-15#1738805 << see, this is the terrible habit of poor organisation. you don't say "VAT here is x%, and apparently can be avoided in so and so circumstances with so and so riders which works out to a minimum Y value past which it's worth doing". ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-11-15 06:12 BingoBoingo: amoratizing fixed costs (corporation, LACNIC IP address assignment) over 24 months rather than 12 offers little reduction in cost basis
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-15#1738804 << mno, you can't get both margins. either you put your whole cost structure into the bottom line, in which case you charge that ; or else you put your recurrents into the bottom line, charge *2 and amortize your fixed costs out of the 2nd part of that *2. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: (in other lulz : nigeria took over south africa to become africa's largest economy years ago).
mircea_popescu: oh wait, THEYRE JUST WORDS. and yet the usg socialist is not ==== the subsaharan retard. because... DIFFERENCE, just like FAMOUS. they'll give testimony on the difference!
mircea_popescu: somehow the african notion of "famous" does not preclude the need to "give testimony". wouldn't i already know about him if he were famous ?
mircea_popescu: in other lulz : "gerry john gerryjohn151@gmail.com 197.210.45.130 Submitted on 2017/11/14 at 11:16 p.m. HELLO EVERYONE I AM GIVING A TESTIMONY OF HOW I GOT RICH POWERFUL AND FAMOUS TODAY"
mircea_popescu: wer perhaps another user from before used the same nickname too << yes. someone else registered the nick, but didn't set enforcement on it. as a result you can use it (you don't get kicked by nickserv) but can't register it yourself. ask in #freenode if they're willing to move it over to you ; if not, find a diff name and register that.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo check out the wonders of mother nature! no need to quarrel!
mircea_popescu: mod6 aha! fucking hysterical. and it's a huge paper-bread franchise too, all over latam.
trinque: could be as simple as billing monthly in advance, calculating bill as u*$operatingCost*1.15/40 or whatever margin atop you think is reasonable. $operatingCost denominated in BTC should be going down all the time
trinque: curious what happens to the price when btc buying power increases, as it likes to do.
BingoBoingo to bed. Hopes these numbers/reasoning receive comment.
BingoBoingo: Mind that ~0.6 ish BTC hit this year to home a server would mean ISP exists for next year when FX risk likely takes more favorable turn and cost basis starts diminishing ☟︎
BingoBoingo does not know what alf-isp numbers look like, but does not imagine too different
BingoBoingo: The meat of the cost is in rack with connectivity
BingoBoingo: *244 USD monthly on the desk
BingoBoingo: Doing anything in a Zona Franca would allow for avoiding VAT, but it would put the bill for a commercial address close to the cost of the rack and come with pressure to hire 3 descendants of Italian refugees
BingoBoingo: Mind that this includes minimum viable commercial address (comes with locker, desk and coffee) for 244 monthly after VAT ☟︎
BingoBoingo: amoratizing fixed costs (corporation, LACNIC IP address assignment) over 24 months rather than 12 offers little reduction in cost basis ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2017-10-22 05:20 mircea_popescu: your cost basis is ~200 per server. you can rent them for 3-400 as such, or can give out vpsen, which are more productive. perhaps even "shared" if particularily interested into it.
BingoBoingo: Math is ({[Montly costs of rack + business address + cost of off the shelf corporation (amoratized over 12 months)]/40 rentable rack units} * 12 months) * 2 per http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-22#1727598 at 6800 usd per BTC ☝︎
trinque: bit steep. how'd you arrive at that?
BingoBoingo: For trinque and other parties interested in shipping their own boxes, considering the current cost basis and exchange rates to get a server homed for the first year is looking like ~0.57-0.6 BTC per rack unit (minding that especially power hungry servers may count as multiple rack units despite their physical footprint)
trinque: if tits register a new key, are they thereby new tits?
a111: Logged on 2015-08-29 19:03 asciilifeform: trinque: btw it was not clear to the folks who ran the camps, that this naturally-occurring system of hierarchy was a net plus re: net tonnage from the mines. hence the 'vory/suka wars' mircea_popescu referenced, a famous case where su authorities tried to monkey with the 'org chart'
mats: http://btcbase.org/log/2015-08-29#1255753 << any suggestions for (preferably en-translated) reading material on this subj? ☝︎
mod6: ah, ok. thx trinque
trinque: you can just register a new key, though
wer: ah thanks anyway
mod6: ah, ok. well... im not sure what the protocol is then for changing your nick in deedbot, but I'm sure trinque needs to assist you with that/
mod6: are you sure it wasn't you that set it up so long ago?
mod6: and if that person grabs it back with 'ghost' or whatever, then you're sol.
wer: perhaps another user from before used the same nickname too
mod6: so when you connect to irc do you do the typical 'identify' command with nickserv ?
mod6: not too much younger than mine even
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> i've not worked as a caretaker of the profoundly retarded, neh, so can't say i experienced directly << Do you want to come visit before we depart for our seperate ventures? I can make introductions. Maybe even get you some shifts at the BingoBoingo store.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> the double entendre is now a triple entente. << You probably wouldn't be interested in Miss trainwreck because height is in the range that is short for you and ergonomic for me
wer: there's this message "This nickname is registered. Please choose a different nickname, or identify via /msg NickServ identify <password>."
mod6: it seems like you already did an "!!up" to deedbot.
a111: Logged on 2017-11-14 15:58 mircea_popescu: (amusingly, the unsupportable and otherwise batshit insane ugc in http://trilema.com/2011/procesul-ceausescu/ is ~100% unsourced copy/pastes from the dude's "red horizons" booklet)
mod6: my first time in .mx many many years ago, i was like "Bimbo Bread? wtf, don't they know..."
mod6: <+ben_vulpes> quit drivin on the sidewalls girl << lel
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2017/items/ << Trilema - Items
asciilifeform: 'here have iron that dun heat' 'have a radio that picks up only own tuner oscillator' bbut at leadt Cheap!!
asciilifeform: sorta like asciilifeform's discovery few yrs ago, where turned out that e.g. lathe was considerably easier to get in '50s than today, but 'hey , hurr , 3d printers!!' etc
mircea_popescu: what technomarvel worked once sat upon ?
mircea_popescu: aren't we like 100% to date ?
asciilifeform: gotta wonder, how many other 'hey it's soo cheap and available!' technomarvels, on examination would turn up to be exactly same as this
asciilifeform: the only further insult i can think of, is if it somehow were to set the rubbish bin where i threw it, on fire
asciilifeform: oh did i mention that the antenna per se, turned out to be... old lamp cord
asciilifeform: i now recall some anthropologist who had problems giving fiction, incl simple hypotheticals, to some african sad sacks
mircea_popescu: aaanyway. let's move to a diff topic lest i thoroughly depress myself.
mircea_popescu: wtf does he need the difference between surround-ing and surround-ant ? mordant is not a word, is it ?
mircea_popescu: has "a conception" of seasons. a sheep's notion of the world surroundant.
mircea_popescu: just as sheep as the sheep.
mircea_popescu: that's the great "progress" of agriculture : the shepherd's sheep were replaced by bypedal farmers.
mircea_popescu: farmer, like the sheep that he IS, merely follows the herd, and dies with it.
asciilifeform: farmer gotta conceptualize at least seasons tho, neh
mircea_popescu: shall we now do the incomprehensible seed ? all the way to the witch doctors, just as good as medicine ?
asciilifeform: grid requires some notion of future, vs extending like tree roots
mircea_popescu: nothing is ever signalled ; not even one way streets. because the local never ventures outside of spaces it knows, so doesn't need signals. why not ventures ?
mircea_popescu: you may, on a novel road, wonder if it's a dead end. i don't wonder that. i know it's a dead end. because no CONCEPTION of grid, see. it's not that they failed to implement it. it's that they don't realise such exists.
asciilifeform: i've not worked as a caretaker of the profoundly retarded, neh, so can't say i experienced directly
mircea_popescu: cuz it's a stretch of the imagination in a way not commonly required to stretch.
mircea_popescu: it can. hence, for instance, no roads here cross. they loop. dja even grok on your own what i fucking mean by this ?
mircea_popescu: you think, "how could mind exist, that fails to understand every plane has underneath system of coordinates".
mircea_popescu: dja understand, asciilifeform, what my bizarre address MEANS ? to you, it's just a curio. you readily fail to realise that the CAUSE of that is that local simply has no notion of cartesian space.
mircea_popescu: they both sow and reap in the same way the same things : incomprehensible seeds on uncomprehended space.
mircea_popescu: they both have the ~exact same notion. "follow group and moo."
asciilifeform: african farmer is three steps ahead of redditus
davout: "Let's as X to accept buttcash donations"
mircea_popescu: the problem with "tide lifts all boats" is that where boat is comes as function of boat not function of "tides".
mircea_popescu: davout they're ~same people.
mircea_popescu: "years of infighting" ? what, over this week-old fart ?
asciilifeform: and how come nobody 'ask merchants to accept' gold
asciilifeform: lol tipping
davout: exact same nonsense, "raise funds for marketing campaigns", "ask merchants to accept it", "tipping bots", literally the exact same things
davout: the thing that amuses me, is that they seem to be rehashing exactly the same nonsense as proper bitcoin reddit was doing 3 or 4 years ago
davout: but i'm sure they'd accept the former, to "raise awareness"
asciilifeform: davout: it is not clear from link, are they begging for donation in proper btc, or shitcoinz
asciilifeform: ( how many burn with desire to pay 5k usd for receiver )
asciilifeform: and it isn't as if there is nonchinese equipment for sale somewhere. unless you count the for-usg 'weight in gold' nonsense
mircea_popescu: the double entendre is now a triple entente.
asciilifeform: oh did i mention, the balun crumbled in my hands ?
phf: it might be a sign of old age, that you attract those tiny kittens, and while they talk you're like "jesus fucking christ you're so dumb", but then you tell them to do a little trick and they do it almost correctly, and you're like "oh hey you're educable, neat, what else can you do"
BingoBoingo: I am learning so much from her talking about her shopping process for next motor carriage
phf: hehe, somehow i read every single thing that BingoBoingo wrote about the girl as some form of double entedre
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: The operation succeeded.
BingoBoingo: !~later tell danielpbarron http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/UpHBe/?raw=true
BingoBoingo: That corresponds to my experience negotiating with the (Cantonese speaking) chinese
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> is this code for "bb got laid" << Nah, she's a white girl. Practically has a Cherenkov glow of warning signs, but is making an effort to stay sober. Is however a source of entertainment watching the petite weapon of mass destruction operate. Much as the BingoBoingo is a valuable customer service lab, driving this kitten around is valuable wmd development lab.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: at some point i'ma 'fan-sub' the thing (unless somebody else gets to it 1st)