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gabriel_laddel: ben_vulpes: I was referring to #b-a members actually. I don't have any customers yet, as Masamune is horribly incomplete.
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel: the last time i met folks who 'they'll use what's there', they were running... winxp
asciilifeform: trinque: i'd even argue that fpga is a mis-step historically, and you'd want to start with traditional 'gal' (as pictured here, http://design.iconnect007.media/index.php/article/31256/maxed-out-programmable-logic-part-deux/31259/?skin=design )
trinque: I'll read that and improve my question
gabriel_laddel: ben_vulpes: I saw that in the logs earlier. It doesn't really matter - they don't have any other options.
trinque: the routing is what I'm not clear on
mircea_popescu: is it -i (pending signals) ?
gabriel_laddel: loper-os-reader: I always sort of thought that about CPU designs in general. whilst software designers say “how many cycles is this going to take?”, a hardware designer knows how many cycles something is going to take on a chip: one. or else
mircea_popescu: refresh me. what in ulimit discusses the i/o ?
trinque: I said this to ben_vulpes yesterday about HTTP request/response cycles
trinque: I can see that point readily
trinque: I could declare that the terminal circuit is now connected to (among other things) my circuit which logs terminal stuff?
asciilifeform: it is the only sane i/o. what we have now is chicken's cloaka, which pisses, shits, fucks, and lays eggs via same orifice (why not also eat with it?)
trinque: how do I shove bits into it?
trinque: what is the circuit? how do I write code which reads the current state of the terminal?
gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: Right. I should have noted that this is an example of what "sane I/O" might look like.
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel has it. but in that article i was speaking of 'proper computer', not lispm.
trinque: asciilifeform: yes I have, and grok the gist, I think
trinque: right, so on linux I could write some bits to /dev/fb0 ; what might I go read about regarding how that's done on... would genera be a good example?
asciilifeform: trinque: i/o in the very basic sense of talking to the framebuffer, nic, interrupt controller
trinque: I'm just glad I figured out I needed to relearn programming at 28 rather than 58
asciilifeform: 'lisp doesn't need i/o.' --my brother
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: straight to sbcl, where this is already a thing. plain computation works fine. it's when you get to i/o that you die
asciilifeform: i.e. the hardware can't be meaningfully abstracted over.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i wasted years on this. destructive dead end, because ibm pc is a turd
asciilifeform: i mean, even for 'hello world'
asciilifeform: trinque: last time i played with clim under sbcl it was dog-slow
trinque: most fun I've had in years
mircea_popescu: just like i wouldn't take a nobel on the basis that i do not wish to have the shiot they gave obama.
mircea_popescu: i am apparently unfamiliar with the sfs of your home world.
mircea_popescu: i wonder what a civilisation of dogs would be like.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i find the proposition that "version numbers" are any sort of program signal utterly retarded.
trinque: I've heard it said that were the US to want to repeat Apollo, they'd have to practically start from scratch, as nearly everyone who had mastery over the processes used before are now dead
trinque: the vessels I meant were human heads
pete_dushenski: alrighty, time to go run off all this ice cream i've been tragically eating. a la prochaine !
trinque: I recall some theory that this happened with the pyramids
asciilifeform: i.e. forget things
trinque: I don't follow "doesn't leak"
cazalla: jurov, those warnings are the fucking things i've been getting every 2-3 weeks for months
trinque: I recall someone making the point that there can be greater distance between men than men and animals
asciilifeform: jurov: i spoke of this earlier. it isn't a gavinsignal in the usual sense, but is produced by the crud where version numbers in incoming messages are averaged and compared
trinque: I wouldn't be a common lisp programmer by now if I hadn't aired a bunch of idiotic thoughts of my own on programming in public.
pete_dushenski: "that's not what i said you idjit !" "oh, my bad, let me try again !" "that's a bit better !"
pete_dushenski: it's how i learn, i guess.
mircea_popescu: "i'm trying to do it with integers!"
mircea_popescu: i am kinda amused by pete's fundamentally tragic figure, btw.
trinque: I suppose I'm sentimental
trinque: man I kinda like that... putting tasks which need done in terms of that which they deprive the republic
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: lol this break is exactly the point i'm making on my 'second crack' update
mircea_popescu: williamdunne oh but i can.
trinque: heh I'd read that
williamdunne: trinque: Thought I'd read something about them not being willing to do so, can't find it now though so probably the effects of alcohol
pete_dushenski: cazalla: it also encourages more frequent posting and more in-depth research, so i'm not saying it's an unreasonable trade-off
cazalla: i really don't think he does that in order to scoop up a few additional shares though
pete_dushenski: cazalla: i have no problem with network diff posts btw
trinque: from within the wotnet I may (depending on its design) be able to explicitly delegate the hosting task to some other trusted party should I be absent
cazalla: pete_dushenski, be specific because i go so far as to exclude the monthly reports from the word counts
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-06-2015#1179302 << it certainly leads to, how shall i put it, "wordiness" on qntra. certainly not all the time, but that's the temptation. ☝︎
williamdunne: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-06-2015#1176379 << I win ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 27-06-2015 20:39:10; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-06-2015#1179037 << i thought you didn't exist.
jurov: my favourite motto was lately "Historia meretrix vitae" .. on seeing these examples I'm thinking how to get it more...er.. penetrating
jurov: (just some snippet i found today, might be vaguely related, but smells by lingua latina canina)
punkman: I trimmed the bison's butthairs, but they grew back.
mircea_popescu: cum's the tastiest thing i nature from what i hear, nobody hunts the cock.
asciilifeform: genuine in the sense that 'i killed this bison myself'
mircea_popescu: "I am Hilde, from the Most Serene Republic of Tilde"
mircea_popescu: The Most Serene Republic Of~ << this sounds great i gotta say.
mircea_popescu: for that matter, people also need self-esteem. i'm not about to "provide" it for them, in vacu-sealed packages. and they need to hunt, which does not reduce to "i'ma let a half dozen naked girlies loose in their room see what happens". that's how rich people destroy their children.
pete_dushenski: hm. i have more mulling to do on the topic, it seems.
mircea_popescu: i don't see why i'd want to have an equivalent of the mcd supervisor, calling people at home to remind them they work.
asciilifeform: i propose the standard unit of measure be '1 moiety'
mircea_popescu: kinda why i keep asking people "who are you". nobody seems to ever be anyone, which is odd, but anyway.
mircea_popescu: for artists i suppose it's eulora work etc. there's really no shortage o shit to do.
pete_dushenski: and i have no qualms with reacting to circumstance, i'm more getting at : what's to be done with unassigned functions
mircea_popescu: i think most everyone's using github or w/e - but it wouldn't maybe be such a bad idea to start putting deeds out with the code bundles. with instructions. "run this so and so"
asciilifeform: of course folks often forget the other thing about the parachute thing - in sov army, they usedta make you sign it, 'i folded this parachute myself. signed, pvt. schmuck'
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski i have nfi what you're proposing, but my thinking is that it's more expensive and less productive to think proactively rather than reactively.
mircea_popescu: there is a "no undies - i wanna be able to fondle your cunt" rule, but s'about all.
mircea_popescu: at some point travelling i was like "fuck it, WHO CARES what time they thinkg it is."
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it's a wonder i even managed to make the conference at all. i haven't had a watch or aty allcared about time in a decade.
asciilifeform: and i don't have a clock (other than emacs clock) in the room either
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-06-2015#1179126 << i have them too, the result is that i sometimes forget to sleep./ ☝︎
mircea_popescu: i just amply dislike ~the design~ of it.
asciilifeform: i/o
mircea_popescu: the cpu utilization is actually low, but the load is immense because i dunno wtf it does but something stupid.
mircea_popescu: i am looking at 10!!111 load on a 8 cpu, 32 gb raid ssd machine.
mircea_popescu: we fucking forget. omfg the thing... no wonder nobody runs it. i doubt very much it can be run. like, at all.
asciilifeform: because 1) no i won't do it with bare hands 2) yes, could pay people, but i ~fucking hate people~
asciilifeform: see, i'm one of those weirdos who keeps, for instance, a computerized vacuum cleaner
mircea_popescu: jurov i suspect trhat is the correct approach : add to the header space.
jurov: well. i am sending hashes in headers too, but getting anyone to use them...
mircea_popescu: i'd have so much trouble paying more than 4, maaaaybe 500 bucks for something like that....
asciilifeform: jurov: you were quite right, it won't do, and i oughta have remembered this factoid
jurov: i see. full hashes should be used everywhere. except for btc-dev patches ;D
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-06-2015#1179037 << i thought you didn't exist. ☝︎
shinohai: Hmmm. I think I will give that a shot
shinohai: @ asciilifeform I made a phuctored command for my bot so I can always see the latest keys
jurov: and if, i'd prefer to get cremated every evening instead
jurov: and i do use them to have darkness like in coffin :D
jurov: when i got a window fixed some months ago, asked them to add external blinds