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mircea_popescu: so there's a number of different problems with this "ev activity" line of reasoning.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform also, art is always and by definition a -ev activity, and people engage in it. for that matter, love and childmaking idem.
punkman: editing text in a console drives me mad
asciilifeform: today, some degree of lunacy is almost a basic bar for being willing to touch the cursed machine in the first place.
mircea_popescu: now, math people are generally a loony bunch, but
mircea_popescu: and yes, the "scam money rots your brain" think is also a very powerful theory. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: rms is not exactly a paragon of sanity.
asciilifeform: (rms would be a better example)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: neither of the folks you named encountered it as a young man
assbot: Logged on 24-08-2014 21:40:36; *: asciilifeform had a dream many years ago that his grandfather took an ancient grinding wheel from workshop, turned it upside-down, and taught him to ride it. and now people actually do something quite like this.
assbot: Logged on 29-08-2015 12:16:01; mats: http://www.gliderzz.com I have been seeing these around a lot lately
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform name a guy who did lisp and survived mind intact.
asciilifeform: not sure if this adds anything to mircea_popescu's line of thought, but it is known that paul graham wrote common lisp programs using... vi. this drives me to barking madness after five minutes, and it is difficult to picture what brain might look like after a whole year of it, or what said brain must have looked like to even contemplate doing such a thing.
mircea_popescu: 2) graham spent his mind on thinking about lisp, ended up a 60 yo too fucktarded to understand even the most basic points of math.
mircea_popescu: 1) naggum spent his mind on thinking about lisp, ended up a 40year old too fucktarded to get out of the rain. this is literally what happened, and one will have a lot of trouble talking around the failure of some guy to avoid dying of perforated ulcer.
assbot: Logged on 29-08-2015 13:57:20; mircea_popescu: i thought graham was supposed to be a competent old lisp hand. is this the brainrot lisp instills in people ?
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-08-2015#1255288 << he wrote a textbook on basic common lisp for schoolchildren once. i still have it. can't comment on his programmatic work, afaik none of it has ever been published openly... ☝︎
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-08-2015#1255266 << sadly my copy of the book has a blank screen... ☝︎
mircea_popescu: Now suppose you're so un-rapacious that you only extract half as much from your users as you could. That means two years later you'll be making $80k a month instead of $160k. How far behind are you? How long will it take to catch up with where you'd have been if you were extracting every penny? A mere 15 weeks. After two years, the un-rapacious founder is only 3.5 months behind the rapacious one."
mircea_popescu: "Some examples will make this clear. Suppose your company is making $1000 a month now, and you've made something so great that it's growing at 5% a week. Two years from now, you'll be making about $160k a month.
mircea_popescu: i thought graham was supposed to be a competent old lisp hand. is this the brainrot lisp instills in people ? ☟︎
mircea_popescu: p, and when anything grows at the rate of a successful startup, the Y axis will take care of itself."
mircea_popescu: "I told him not to worry about it, because so long as he built something good enough to spread by word of mouth, he'd have a hyperlinear growth curve. If he was bad at extracting money from people, at worst this curve would be some constant multiple less than 1 of what it might have been. But a constant multiple of any curve is exactly the same shape. The numbers on the Y axis are smaller, but the curve is just as stee
mircea_popescu: instead it's "hey, let's fix my being a monkey with more monkeying around!"
mircea_popescu: fucking monkeys already. so he fucks up, once by getting involved in a piece of shit scam, the other for sucking at math. and what he wants to know ain't "i wonder how i could be less fucktarded" at any point.
assbot: Just a moment... ... ( http://bit.ly/1UcRJas )
mats: http://www.gliderzz.com I have been seeing these around a lot lately ☟︎☟︎☟︎
assbot: Logged on 17-08-2015 19:24:23; mircea_popescu: incidentally ascii_field mod6 kakobrekla jurov & mike_c do let me know if you'd like me to publish http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-08-2015#1240297 on trilema as "b-a's notion of a block increasing hardfork".
punkman: "Mr. Ali noted the popularity of Facebook groups such as “Smuggle Yourself to Europe Without a Trafficker.”"
punkman: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/26/world/europe/a-21st-century-migrants-checklist-water-shelter-smartphone.html
assbot: A look at The Machine [LWN.net] ... ( http://bit.ly/1LIa8HM )
mats: http://j00ru.vexillium.org/ntapi/ I had no idea a complete table like this existed
phf: "what sort of information can a computer output to the monitor?" "oh, all kinds..."
phf: i had a friend, who run a fido node from his apartment, who looked exactly like that cat, if that's even possible
phf: http://j.livelib.ru/boocover/1000317190/o/4e97/A._Zaretskij_A._Truhanov__A_ya_byl_v_kompyuternom_gorode.jpeg << book i was given as a small boy << i remember that book! it had a totally soviet intelligentsia cat guy
mircea_popescu: "lying idiots, have nfi what a ocmputer is"
mircea_popescu: i hated these as a kid
asciilifeform: it helps to be a no older than 5 y.o. orc who has never seen or heard of a computer.
asciilifeform: http://royallib.com/read/zaretskiy_andrey/a_ya_bil_v_kompyuternom_gorode.html#204800 << skip to the 'encyclopaedic appendix' where the pics are.
asciilifeform: http://royallib.com/read/zaretskiy_andrey/a_ya_bil_v_kompyuternom_gorode.html#0 << somebody scanned it...
asciilifeform: http://j.livelib.ru/boocover/1000317190/o/4e97/A._Zaretskij_A._Truhanov__A_ya_byl_v_kompyuternom_gorode.jpeg << book i was given as a small boy
asciilifeform: can't sit a bloke in front of a card punch, y'know
mircea_popescu: saw a 20 yo with the flipper arm today.
asciilifeform: presumption being that planet ought to resemble a poultry plant
asciilifeform: sadly there appears to be a much smaller limit in practice
mircea_popescu: there's a limit on how many humans may be people at the same time
asciilifeform: i formally declare the hosting subcontractor to be a piece of shit
mircea_popescu: "the man who really invented bitcoin" has a lot to explain re my cock up his throat.
mircea_popescu: <ascii_field> that's the new usg catchword for 'bitcoin agrees to quietly kill itself because That Is How The World Works' ? << in a word, yes.
trinque: I must've been one of a handful of USian kids in the last generation taught respect, if nothing else
trinque: ;;later tell BingoBoingo http://phys.org/news/2015-08-appeals-court-reverses-nsa-illegal.html << perhaps a qntra
ascii_field: i don't have a cat
thestringpuller: ascii_field: when you say pet you mean like a cat or significant other you are sometimes inside of?
phf: livecode a 20mb block support to golang btcd
cazalla: i would pay to watch a live stream of you in that room
cazalla: oh look, a makeathon! how about it asciilifeform ?
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes it's mostly a private joke, between /me and ex osu undergrad
mircea_popescu: i hadn't even known oregon has a university.
ben_vulpes: saw the guy speak a month or so ago. rather entertaining.
mircea_popescu: GEORGE: Really? (Jerry shakes his head) Maybe this will become like a cool thing, living with your parents.
mircea_popescu: anyway, let it be said that joining isis is both morally sounder and economically wiser a choice than applying to any us college.
cazalla: i would hazard a guess that the lifetime supervision is about minimising the chances this kid can enact his own justice once he reaches an age where he realises what a dud deal this was for him (around the time he gets out i would guess)
trinque: there's no particular oppression of the whites going on except as a subset of the kind of oppression the socialist state commits generally
assbot: JL: ‘I Feel Like A Second Class Citizen’ ... ( http://bit.ly/1KSEpOb )
trinque: drawn by a radical feminist guy, iirc
trinque happens upon a crab next
trinque: mircea_popescu: makes sense. collecting sea shells on a stroll is not thinking
trinque: forgets about sessions after a bit, I guess
mircea_popescu: trinque in any case "phenomenological thinking" is a void concept. thinking is not described by the subject it's applied to. you said something roughly like "lighting electrictiy". sure, it can be used to bring light.
mircea_popescu: the latter are preoccupied chiefly with entrance barriers, and are debating, predictably, if building a wall across colorado is worth the hassle.
mircea_popescu: trinque quite exactly : a cosmos is the graph of perceptibles. a universe is the set of perceptibles.
trinque: a graph is a web of relationships
trinque: well, a set would be a rigorously defined category of things sharing properties
BingoBoingo: More than anything I use the numbers as a rough combination of interactions and "bus factor"
cazalla: BingoBoingo, yeah i understand the numbers thing only has value to you, so i am sure you will not be offended that i don't rate higher than a 4-5 for anyone i've yet to share a meal with.
BingoBoingo: Sober, my weekend doesn't start for a few more hours
BingoBoingo: Oh, I did the WoT clean up just a little bit ago
BingoBoingo: cazalla: We share a business. It's survived nearly a year. Also the particular numbers next to ratings don't exactly mean much.
cazalla: perhaps, but i suspect BingoBoingo had a few drinks much like myself last night
cazalla: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-08-2015#1254742 <<< we're yet to even share a meal or a woman, 8-10 does not leave much room eh? ☝︎
mircea_popescu: a language clearly intended to be spoken to horses.
mircea_popescu: ascii_field much like the british empire was a pretension, not a reality.
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: that's an explanation, i dare say, not a translation
trinque: I've suspected due to the way russian speakers speak english, "a" and "the" might be absent or expressed differently
mircea_popescu: "are you a pleb or did your parents have enough spare food in your childhood to have the time to teach you the fucking cases"
mircea_popescu: (these three males) + (belonging to that guy) = ai aceluia ; (this single female) + (belonging to that group of females) = a acelora.
trinque: yeah, I can begin to see how a particular language can limit the specificity of expression
mircea_popescu: so you have the seemingly confounding a/al/ai/ale + acesta/acela aceasta/aceea acestia/aceia acestea/acelea. for a grand total of omfg it's romanian - the gathering!
mircea_popescu: most languages also have a posessive, which in english is conflated in his/hers/theirs.
mircea_popescu: but just because english makes a mess of vocative case / demonstrative pronoun / possesives etc doesn't mean much.
trinque: lol, somebody bought me "moon shoes" when I was a kid
trinque: punkman: given existing computing systems, I'd rather run a wire than use pulseaudio's streaming
ben_vulpes: ninjashogun and luke-jr sitting in a tree
ascii_field pictures trinque hastily eating a onetimepad
trinque: finding a paging service is rough... seems like I want to find a reseller for americanmessaging.net
trinque: for longer messages, send out a page with a URL to an encrypted paste, or something
danielpbarron: a lock to keep out the people who wouldn't have tried anyway
trinque: for whatever that's worth, not a lot imo
assbot: The Dillinger Escape Plan - Irony Is a Dead Scene (2002) [Full EP] - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1PDsxTU )
trinque: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xp8U6Mt_OG8 << patton was also a better dillinger than dillinger