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mircea_popescu: so basically, the facts of the matter is, "at some point in the distant-er than month but closer than decade past", phf wanted to tell you some things and you took a hard line "just dump the thing", which he didn't want to do. then recently, having bought some parts and being less theoretically and more practically minded, you revised your stance ~in your own mind~ to
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-19#1881964 and so on, but n
☝︎ mircea_popescu: well, so in simple terms, is 'your response was essentially "i'm not making any promises, i'm going to dump the whole thing on the internet"' a factual claim or isn't it ?
mircea_popescu: maybe you did, but as a factual matter it's not clear to me.
mircea_popescu: so now. is the case as you publicly present it, "phf has been not helping for year +" or is the case as he publicly presents it, "i tried to help a year ago but granularity didn't match and then he went on a campaign of fuming about whisperers ''in general'' transparently in reference to the particuylar case and i was stuck sitting and listening to it."
mircea_popescu: and now im in the unenviable position of thinking about nonsense. look here asciilifeform : the man says
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-19#1881968 and what am i to do ? remember that you're one of the principal idiots who decided to run their pizarro process throgh a encryptospitball, and before that you came up with the brilliancy that was "secret clauses" in pizarro nearly got ben_vulpes beheaded.
☝︎ mircea_popescu: there's no direct way to resolve this in the shot-over-bow manner, and you two have the disadvantage that being very unlike personalities with very unlike personal histories, you apparently get on each other's nerves.
mircea_popescu: right. anyways, carrying on :
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-19#1881922 << in the practical terms of doing things, the problem of unknowns stands that the man with a need and no chest doesn't know what to ask from the chest and the man with the ches and no need doesn't know what to send him.
☝︎ mircea_popescu: ie, not only do i have no use for some guy who's gonna publish whatever his mom finds "appropriate" ; but on 2nd pass i have no use for some guy fluffyponying it along.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i'm still discussing the line i quoted, i'm not yet at current log.
mircea_popescu: what, if i hadn't said "you know, you can't propose whatever tards trump republican interest" that'd have ended up baked into precedent ? and what, i'm supposed to not notice this ? i notice.
mircea_popescu: now, as to me personally, i find your behaviour deeply offensive for the following reason : i do not believe you speak accidentally, you're much too meticulous and lengthily silent for that. the only reconstruction of today's discussion that stands my read is, "well, at first he tried line x, see if they're morons enoujgh to buy it ; that failed, regroupped to line y".
mircea_popescu: there's a long history of "fuckers, phuctor" specifically driven by this behaviour, so no, it's not liable to be popular in general.
mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-19#1881922 << i suspect the approach is particularly chaffind to asciilifeform because childhood trauma, "older brother keeping the good chocolate to eat with his gf". but this aside, it is problematic because it very much smacks of usg-style "here's the conclusions of some measurements we're not publishing".
☝︎ mircea_popescu: well so what, you must proceed in parallel cuz gods willed it ?
mircea_popescu: i don't even care, past the (i'd have thought obvious) point whereby specific lines of argument simply can't be brought.
mircea_popescu: as it did bar that scmuck ; so will it bar all in the future.
mircea_popescu: any obligation outside the republic is invalid ; any obligation that conflicts with republican work is anti-republic. this is some discovery ?
mircea_popescu: i don't happen to agree, is all, but this with no prejudice.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i am aware you think it valuable, and i have no problem with that, your business, how your lab works, enjoy.
mircea_popescu: and consequently, rather than discover this fundamental truth later, discover it now, and save your own time/
mircea_popescu: the discussion here revolves around your attempt to introduce some kind of superior consideration, and im telling you neatly that if you think in this way there is not now nor will ever be in the future a place for you here.
mircea_popescu: the discussion here in no way revolves the value, extant imagined or presumed of some idiots caches.
mircea_popescu: phf i expect the accumulated value of the whole pile of "secrets" is about 0. and i further expect the entire value of the whole bolix stack neatly approximates the value of my stock of pogos.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: it makes exactly zero difference what peculiar form of "fatherinlaw/god/whatever" the x takes.
mircea_popescu: when you say "x > republic", you forfeit whatever trust you might have had.
mircea_popescu: you are trusted for as long as you behave in the trustworthy manner.
mircea_popescu: i am however NOT dealing with people who have your sort of committment outlay.
☟︎☟︎ mircea_popescu: you ~wanna~ stick with whatever "multiple people", please go right ahead, and right now.
mircea_popescu: in short, you're doing a danielpbarron, and it's going to go exactly as well as his.
mircea_popescu: it therefore can not be the case that you can be uniquely identified as responsible for the leak.
mircea_popescu: it can not be the case that you are the only one holding whatever useles, worthless moth ridden crapola.
mircea_popescu: phf this is the republic not the guardian ; there's no yellow dots.
mircea_popescu: people born in prehistory don't have access to the future.
mircea_popescu: whether the "spurious" set bits are shameful or on the contrary, soothing, depends i suppose on the mental age of the observer.
mircea_popescu: i suppose older writers told it in terms of "the shame", "l'embarass". obects that exist have to populate the whole array ; whereas objects that do not exist get away with natural-language sparse existence
mircea_popescu: there's a certain carnality of existence. unlike the ghoistly quality of emulation, imagination, etc.
mircea_popescu: not even specific nostalgia. people go to museums not strictly because "oh, i recall my childhood of bering spartan!!!"
mircea_popescu: no shortage of emulators. if you're gonna emulate, ima emulate atop my computer not atop some idiot's alarm clock
mircea_popescu: sspeaking of which -- i wanted to play pinball. girls went all over town. no pinball machine exists in a costa rican arcade.
mircea_popescu: i suspect "we can fix your pals" would be mega business. if, of course, bolix prices weren't utter bs, and if, of course, anyone wanted them ~for an actual purpose~. neither of which...
mircea_popescu: i see it ; buyt possibly went to modqueue because linked ave's thing
mircea_popescu: "Mircea Popescu validates Mocky's feelings on this matter. " ahahahah
mircea_popescu: "religious" folk are ~really fucking lucky~ no gods exist.
mircea_popescu: if there's anything in the world more insulting than the passage of time i can scarcely imagine what the fuck it'd be. but i suspect i know how moses feels every time danielpbarron quotes the bible : exactly how i feel every time one of these inconsequential schmucklettes discuss "the concept of bdsm".
mircea_popescu: now these fucktards go about with a unified view of "the thing specifically declared as unifiable".
mircea_popescu: pro tip : this thing exists specifically as an umbrela term of irreducible reality. it was made as such and deliberately, by people from the 70s.
mircea_popescu: you mean, "all i got -- is a passport" or you mean "all i got -- is fuck you mp!" ?
mircea_popescu: honestly i don't think we have nearly enough drama. a serious project would have more drama.
mircea_popescu: Mocky did yo uget butthurt at something she said that i've not got to read eyt ?
mircea_popescu: kinda why inheritance is such a suspect device in the first place.
mircea_popescu: yes well. if actuarial science teaches anyhing, it's that it is likely the dullest son who inherits.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you mean "the broader clitler" as in literal cockroaches and assorted vermin ?
mircea_popescu: but, in this world, one generally gets what one wants.
mircea_popescu: except she was a pretty smart white girl, rather than an ugly stupid black girl.
mircea_popescu: haha, forget about it. clinton's career is deader than disco. she's gone to join her paramour, condolezza rice.
mircea_popescu: which also, owns 11 littoral combat ships, owes > 9000
mircea_popescu: didn't he own a tower in buenos aires and shit like that ? wtf million.