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gernika: mircea_popescu can I snag
a eulora account?
trinque: sure but that'd be maybe
a degenerate case of the thing
trinque: like
a social supernode which organizes the activity of other nodes
trinque: and wouldn't
a human leader also be said to have
a biological function?
trinque: perhaps it's
a question like "why doesn't the queen bee have to haul all this pollen?"
mircea_popescu: for that matter, go, write "
a lisp such that any other man would see the wisdom in it and b e able to use it to whatever purpoise without bothering to learn it, or even read his own code"
mircea_popescu: and it is not about "the effects". it is abour social organisation, which is supposed to be
a culturally normated activity.
assbot: Logged on 19-08-2015 00:18:24; asciilifeform: cabbie: 'this ford is
a piece of shit. stalled again.' mircea_popescu: 'i have
a solution!' cabbie: 'oh???111' mircea_popescu: 'here, have this broomstick.' cabbie: 'how do i drive customers on that, feed my family' mircea_popescu: 'you misunderstand, my good man. you stuff it in your arse.' cabbie: 'and... how does this feed by family?' mircea_popescu: 'no, you sit there with it in.'
phf: i have
a very romantic view of guilds then, more like b-
a, less then hacker news, but then i grew up on romantic literature
mircea_popescu: for everything the common man "has" is
a) not his good property and b) acquired by him through some osrt of redistribution or other
mircea_popescu: this discussion made me intuit
a strange sort of reverse-marxism.
mircea_popescu: this is actually
a perfectly legitimate reason to take things from idiots
trinque: lol, I'd assumed the book was published somewhere with
a sense of humor
assbot: Logged on 09-04-2015 21:17:14; ascii_field: wolfram is sui generis. owns
a tame publisher, for instance
phf: mathematica is basically lisp written by
a person who understood lisp, but hated lisp
ben_vulpes: it is
a very useful contract for writing code with other beebul!
assbot: Logged on 29-08-2015 17:44:04; ben_vulpes: regarding graham, the focus on macros in his (published) work puts me off
a bit. "look at the monstrous edifice of complexity i can hold within my mind!" instead of "look at this useful and easily fit-into-head thing i made".
mircea_popescu: for that matter setting
a rate of flow gauge (like say
a tap) to "4" is not in any sense similar to setting
a wallet to contain "4". it's more alike "4x", really.
mircea_popescu: if i want you to set
a vector to "4" do i mean 4.0, 4.0, 4.0 ? do i mean 4.0, 0.0, 0.0 ie the 1st invariant ? do i mean 4.0, 1.0, 1.0 ie the 2nd invariant ? do i simply mean 4.0, normal, normal ? what normal ?
assbot: Logged on 07-02-2015 02:20:39; the_scourge: 'Emacs actually comes with
a builting Emacs Aptitude Test. Do you remap your keyboard or the Emacs keybindings before the chords and sequences it comes with by default have wreaked havoc with your hands? If you do not do anything to make Emacs more convenient for yourself, you may not have the prerequisite aptitude to use it productive.' (naggum, who else.
http://www.xach.com/na < funny, that's one of t
assbot: Logged on 29-08-2015 17:24:20; trinque: I have no idea who thought these emacs "chords" were
a good thing, but fuck that person
trinque: could be
a slot on an object, could be some symbol
mircea_popescu: seems to me by the time i dun know anymore how to fill the something with water i have
a problem more serious in there.
trinque: setf seems like an example of
a good macro, where the general notion of "set the thing, whatever it is, to this value" is expanded to whatever the appropriate way to set that thing is
trinque: ben_vulpes: seems generally you should always have
a damned good reason for introducing new syntax
ben_vulpes: regarding graham, the focus on macros in his (published) work puts me off
a bit. "look at the monstrous edifice of complexity i can hold within my mind!" instead of "look at this useful and easily fit-into-head thing i made".
☟︎ trinque: ben_vulpes: not really
a speedup; I've just moved common emacs operations towards the middle of the keyboard
mircea_popescu: really, alf proposed
a half truth when he said that if handling the mechanics of signing are the major time eater, one's clearly not doing enough work with the patches.
trinque: just
a matter of staying off the modifier keys; I use space as leader and various sequences of keys from there, usually involving index and middle fingers
trinque: I have no idea who thought these emacs "chords" were
a good thing, but fuck that person
☟︎ mircea_popescu: which is why "
a life free of conflict" is such ridoinculous contradiction in terms.
mircea_popescu: and no, "what's sensible with
a narrow view may be insane from
a broader perspective" doesn't hold because "every sperm is sacred" and assorted nonsense
trinque: naturally they would, though what's sensible with
a narrow view may be insane from
a broader perspective
mircea_popescu: well it is also in what
a government of women would hold (and in those countries which do allow such nonsense, do hold) as reckless disregard of their litter.
mircea_popescu: trinque you familiar with the "psychotic" observation of poincarre (the president, not the other one) that "universal lack of suffering may never be
a policy goal, for the simplest means to effect it would be simply killing everyone" ?
mircea_popescu: i'd rather expect it's "
a reckless disregard of life and property".
trinque: does this "psychoticism" mean something like willingness to act *upon*
a person or *through* them?
mircea_popescu: because i'd so totally trade
a mile of "internet" by which our friend of course means retardorama web 2.0, for an inch of bbs.
mircea_popescu: ". In the same way that the people who used to use BBS systems in small numbers that are dwarfed by the number of internet users, Bitcoin will undergo
a similar transformation, with similar beneficial effects, only this time, penetrating more deeply into society at every level than what is simple net access today."
diana_coman: yes, but more than that, they are actually curious (as far as I can tell and not only based on mine) and enjoy something new - they don't care about the level really, so it's more
a matter of what the other people can "feed" them really
mircea_popescu: children, inasmuch as they're yours, expect exactly what they're getting and will be equally thankful for it, which is why
a six year old is happy whether poor african or rich swede, just as long as he's with his mother.
assbot: Logged on 29-08-2015 15:24:37; mircea_popescu: rearing children is perhaps not so unlike going to reeducation camp for
a few years. it "didn't work" on
a. solzhenitsyn. it DID work, obviously, on all the schmucks he knows by name but you do not. so...
diana_coman: oh, the first days/weeks or so yeah, hormones all over the place and funny stuff (such as forgetting why I went to
a room or another or stuff like that)
diana_coman: there is
a big shock in the first year for sure
mircea_popescu: rearing children is perhaps not so unlike going to reeducation camp for
a few years. it "didn't work" on
a. solzhenitsyn. it DID work, obviously, on all the schmucks he knows by name but you do not. so...
☟︎ diana_coman: and no, I don't spend my whole day in
a room with small children (and even when I do play with the lo, I find myself quickly ending up basically explaining graph theory on his train set/track or something other - not out of some idea that it will make him
a genius, but out of boredom, yes)
diana_coman: asciilifeform> don't discount the iq hit apparently imposed by spawning <- interesting theory, as
a mother of
a 3yo I can say that the only way I can see that work is mainly due perhaps to sleep deprivation
mircea_popescu: whereas fuctkarded abstractions fucktarded people come up with greatly, and i do mean GREATLY benefit from
a spanking.
mircea_popescu: there's
a difference between wanting to use your brain as
a general thing,
mircea_popescu: same hit people going to work for
a bureaucracy exhibit.
mircea_popescu: i guess the formula probably is, "the predominance of women best suited for housewifing equals the unit divided by the maximal litter of
a woman"
mircea_popescu: it is generally rare to find
a woman so stupid her actual optimal level is housewifing.
mircea_popescu: nevertheless, the model breaks down on low states. which is why the housewife is such
a problem for your approach : she's hot alright.
mircea_popescu: maybe
a sufficient approach if all you care about is handling and predicting
mircea_popescu:
a housewife is exactly that : someone completely adherent to the mob. so much so she can spend all her time with children and not care.