asciilifeform wonders why BingoBoingo has not himself bought the warehouse

asciilifeform: and blacker

asciilifeform: even cheaper

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: with same logic, why not zimbabwe

asciilifeform: for instance, i know a fella who moved to a - perfectly tame little town in west virginia, and thought he was getting great deal, but it turned out that it is physically impossible to get decent net connection there (at least without paying for streets to be dug up, six figures)

asciilifeform: thinkaboutit.

asciilifeform: the missing ingredient HAS to be something that costs moar than the difference to add back in.

asciilifeform: elementarily.

asciilifeform: not 13k.

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: if walls were enough, place would cost $mil

asciilifeform: notice, the sig is not used for anything therein

asciilifeform: Framedragger: would happily eat such a key

asciilifeform: well, probably not as traditionally stated (e.g., if 'evil maid' borrows mircea_popescu's key, she can launch the rockets)

asciilifeform: ^^ mircea_popescu et al ^^

asciilifeform: ^ and may account for at least one phuctored modulus

asciilifeform: ^ this may actually be practical with pgp

asciilifeform: (or more general variant where enemy can take something you signed and turn THAT into a subkey that is in turn accepted somewhere!!)

asciilifeform: the one where 'key can squirt out a signature for a new key but this can leave no permanent mark on the original,' ergo auto-acceptance of subkeys is invitation for 'evil maid attack' etc.

asciilifeform: there was a very good thread where mircea_popescu explained this, but i can't seem to find it

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-16#1483723 << manual reactor rods ? ☝︎

asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu http://qntra.net/2016/06/clinton-and-major-socialist-party-data-released-by-hero/#comment-61788

asciilifeform: ;;later tell gernika http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-16#1483690 << neato ☝︎

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-16#1483707 << neither moar nor less fake than linux kernel, neh ? ☝︎

asciilifeform: nothing in usa - that one could live in - costs this little, unless it is attached to onerous restoration mandate from the city, and/or surrounded by heavily armed and belligerent africa

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-16#1483689 << this HAS to be a scam. ☝︎

asciilifeform: flipolade btw.

asciilifeform: but my understanding is, nsa wanted standardization on x86, and got it.

asciilifeform: it was an interesting arch ☟︎

asciilifeform: i remember them costing their weight in silver.

asciilifeform: lel

asciilifeform: if the alternative weren't microshit, nobody would even conceive of buying such a thing.

asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: the crapple currently in business is a sad thing. i have a brand-new $3k box here, for instance, that periodically forgets it has wifi.

asciilifeform: boggles my mind that any of you bothered to watch

asciilifeform: notagain

asciilifeform: https://securelist.com/blog/research/75027/xdedic-the-shady-world-of-hacked-servers-for-sale << lulzy

asciilifeform: (aside from shia hangings)

asciilifeform: afaik it's head-chop for everybody.

asciilifeform: where in dar-al-islam is there this

asciilifeform: l0l!

asciilifeform: curious - why option

asciilifeform: often the jury nullifies

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: in usa it is not wholly unheard-of for wife to mutilate husband (blinding, decocking, etc) while he sleeps

asciilifeform: weird, ikr

asciilifeform: in usa, no corpse --> no hanging

asciilifeform: ;;later tell mod6 http://thebitcoin.foundation still contains a buncha #b-a links ?

asciilifeform: valid sig is valid ~for~ payload

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: yeah but that ain't a 'valid sig'

asciilifeform: wtf is a 'valid sig to an invalid key'

asciilifeform: 'brought to an immediate halt the country's European Union referendum campaign just a week before the vote.' << that was apparently easy.

asciilifeform: nowai

asciilifeform: an unkillable vermin, dead ?!

asciilifeform: l0l!

asciilifeform: (iirc this was mentioned in logz somewhere. presently it multiplies old_primorial * next_prime(old_prime), but this is wasteful, ought to happen in batches so that massive turd is multiplied only rarely)

asciilifeform: ars longa.

asciilifeform: incidentally i devised a way to make the thing grow ~100x faster, but still not implemented.

asciilifeform: that gets gcd'd with the rest.

asciilifeform: it is an eternally growing primorial.

asciilifeform: 8ball has nothing to do with moduli

asciilifeform: incidentally, 8ball presently weighs 333.5MB.

asciilifeform: Framedragger: concept of 'subkey' is waiting to be shot in the head incidentally.

asciilifeform: l0l!

asciilifeform: such as when rsa-signing a small string.

asciilifeform: point was, in certain cases you don't actually win much by making this wager.

asciilifeform: no hash - no collision.

asciilifeform: every time you hash, you make a bet that it will never be practical to find'em.

asciilifeform: collisions are certain to exist.

asciilifeform: fundamentally.

asciilifeform: because many-to-one function.

asciilifeform: and ought to be abolished when practical.

asciilifeform: because hashes are fundamentally poisonous.

asciilifeform: ew sha

asciilifeform: just takes multiple shots to cover modulus, comment, etc.

asciilifeform: can sign ~the modulus whole~

asciilifeform: this is entirely optional when designing new rsa container tho

asciilifeform: it is, and ew

asciilifeform: ew

asciilifeform: mains plug is standard where i live.

asciilifeform: but 'no standard checksum' is lunacy.

asciilifeform: no thx.

asciilifeform: this is like decentralization of mains socket voltage.

asciilifeform: e.g. 'last K bits are ALWAYS sig'

asciilifeform: not certain how practical this is, because in order to work it has to be standardized.

asciilifeform: necessarily

asciilifeform: you can't do this with crc.

asciilifeform: at least assuming 1-bit flip (which so far has been the case)

asciilifeform: elementarily.

asciilifeform: O(Nbits).

asciilifeform: incidentally, because self-sig exists, i could turn these into their correct versions if i had to.

asciilifeform: just like last 2.

asciilifeform: bitflipolade btw

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: try now

asciilifeform goes to the tank

asciilifeform: looks like it is under load tho

asciilifeform: not afaik ?

asciilifeform: btw both of the ones this morning were bitflips.

asciilifeform: this morning.

asciilifeform: hey last one was new iirc

asciilifeform: it actually works this way afaik.

asciilifeform: but yes.

asciilifeform: looks like he put moar petrol in the 2-cycle modem or what.