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diana_coman: you know,
this "fairness"
thing doesn't stand 10 minutes face with reality even
through a child's eyes; if only s/he doesn't
try with all might
to not look or something
mircea_popescu: discussions of "rape" in
the public space
today, as discussions of "unfairness" in
the same public space a century ago are
then all meaningless in
the direct, simple manifestations of a doomed culture. "oh noes, our precious imaginary superiority was insulted by reality,
there's a hole in
the matrix
through which you can perceive you AREN'T
the single playing character in a WoWoW".
mircea_popescu: and
turn it as i might, i can't separate
the former from
the hallucination of self-determination. rural "king of
the world" in decayed
to death sicily, dying british empire, romania
throughout and recently
the us cultural space imagines himself... in a position
to... MAKE DECISIONS!!! has options! may at his leisure obey republic or not. and so on.
mircea_popescu: this eternal duality "but what proof do you have ? and what proof do you have
that your proof is proofing ???" vs "ok, so what do i do".
mircea_popescu: there are inept places full of self-important idiots (imparati in ancient
trilema lingo) where defection is
the only available strategy.
mircea_popescu: diana_coman i suspect
this goes right
to babbage's point.
to paraphrase, "i prefer living in america because when i explain something
the british idiots dedicate
themselves
to rpoving
to me orally how it couldn't work while
the yanks are strictly focused on how it could be sold)
mircea_popescu: (the subtler point being
that look, romanians not even capable of administering
their own beerhall, what farm machinery)
diana_coman: my point was
there were none in his village/that he had a chance
to even see at work /as an option before screwing it all and leaving rather
than anything else
diana_coman: I'm sure
there were machines at
that
time, yes
diana_coman: he was born in 1920; fwiw even now in villages I still see
them manually doing
the work, what can I say
mircea_popescu: you can't go
through any printed publication pre 1930 without running into at least an advertisement for used steam powered farm machinery as well as for new gasoline stuff.
diana_coman: I don't
think he realised/understood/perceived
the option or he'd have gone for it as far as I can
tell otherwise
a111: Logged on 2017-11-17 04:03 mircea_popescu: ie, nobody will ever say "mad cow disease exists because usda introduced mandatory milk pasteurization in 1933
taking advantage of
the 'overproduction' of milk
the usg generated artificially
through fucking
the currency"
diana_coman: eh, what mecanization at
that
time and place
mircea_popescu: yes but field work, such as wheat, is very amenable
to mecanization. gardening, barely if at all. if you hate
the idiocy of mother nature (which i fuklly understand, caragiale's "da, duioasa mama ce-i drept...
trebuie numa' s-o bati sa-i singerezi sinul pina sa se-ndure sa-ti dea o picatura de lapte..." is a great understatement,
there's nothing more loatefuly and despicable
than "mother" nature) you'd expect you'd prefer its
diana_coman: yes,
there were
trees
too, grapes, place
to eat outside etc; but still!
diana_coman: to his mind
the land was wasted otherwise, waht
diana_coman: so it wasn't either work or mud
that he ran away from; it really was as he stated it
the idiocy
diana_coman: and ftr he always kept a perfectly well-worked garden ; at some point he even sold his produce in
the market
diana_coman: well yes, funnily enough his family was certainly poorer
than
those on
the other side, yes; still, he actually made more for himself overall
diana_coman: nope, he went away as young lad with pretty much whatever he could find; he
tried
them all from religious missionaries/sects/whatevers
to singing; in
the end he settled in
town and worked as a worker in a factory, saved, bought some land, built
the house *with his own hands* etc
mircea_popescu: so what, he went
to north pole, lived off polar bear ?
diana_coman: on
the other side, grandfather ran away from land basically because he hated it
mircea_popescu: diana_coman
the question is what
the other peasants considered him, it's an exonym.
mircea_popescu: i suppose
the criticism is
that "he reduced land diffusion, in
that changed a situation where 10% owned some land
to a situation where 0% owned some land"
mircea_popescu: diana_coman yes, pre-communism romania had private land ownership, resulting in "tarani" as
the genertal noun not having any land.
☟︎ diana_coman: then he lost all
the animals "colectivizare"
a111: Logged on 2017-11-14 17:03 mircea_popescu: and
then in spite of "political control" ie "containment policy" romania operated it's OWN gulf concessions with its own machinery and shipped
the oil on its own boats made in its own factories.
mircea_popescu: in 1940 romania "had" gasoline in
the sense whore has money : as a
temporary conveyance, between
the
time punter gives it
to her
to
take
to
the pimp and
the
time pimp gets it. in 1980
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-14#1737815 and yet... ceausescu
TOOK
the driver's gasoline ? which
they naturally had, somehow, as
their birthright ?
☝︎ diana_coman: mircea_popescu, hm; my great grandfather settled in Baragan on land
that *his* father bought specifically for his sons;and
the land was not 500m garden hut included either
mircea_popescu: students had
the speech ? in
the sense of what everloving shit, like reddit and wikipedia,
that's what's contemplated here, ceausescu prevented
the idiots from running r/btc as
they wanted
to ?
mircea_popescu: consider what
the (immensely popular at
the
time) item says : "la
tarani le-a luat pamintul, la studenti le-a luat cuvintul, la soferi le-a luat benzina, la prosti le facea cu mina". ie,
the peasants HAD land. how ? when ? without
the fucking communists
the usg-alligned maniu, bratianu & friends would be STILL dithering over minor land distributions. exactly like
the usgstan does.
☟︎ diana_coman: rather: for cheapest available
that still retains
the *form* of what it's supposed
to be, at least
to some degree; otherwise
they could go barefoot one would
think
diana_coman: I don't doubt it; precisely my point above:
they will go for whatever is cheapest available regardless of anything else
mircea_popescu: the problem with unsystematic preservation --
teh internets dun seem
to contain.
diana_coman: somehow not-leather meant not-shoe; and
tbh romania really was good at making leather shoes so dunno
mircea_popescu: you could
tell
the composition by
the palette it supported.
mircea_popescu: so you have no recollection of
this item ? i could fucking draw it. came in absurd colors
too, like plastic-purple or plastic-orange
diana_coman: yes, exactly;
tbh I hated
the *mud*
that made
them a necessity, myeah
diana_coman: I remember plain and honest mud-country "gumari" and I still hated
them, lol
mircea_popescu: nah, 100% injected plastic sandals for little girls. well boys
too i guess, if
they were faggots.
diana_coman: ugh, I
thought
those were modern day idiocy
mircea_popescu: they had
these whole-plastic sandals for little girls. which poor girls wore, and which were an insta-ban from mp's circles.
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, peasants of 1800 did not have
the option of plastic or
they'd have
taken it just
the same;
that being said I still recall
the communist-ro going precisely
that route e.g. have now
this here wonderful soya-oil just as good as
the "true
thing" which supposedly was... sunflower oil because nobody was supposed
to even remember olive oil
☟︎ a111: Logged on 2017-11-26 03:19 mircea_popescu: and in other "we are
the asswipes, we programatically cut
the very branch we sit on" lulz, "we did not choose
the "new rothchilds" nor do we want
them. if bitcoin cash is a means
to stop
these people
then it appears
that
the votes are being cast as we speak. if bitcoin cash is just another version of
the "new rothchilds"
then
the votes will be cast for
the next usurper.
there will always be an underdog".
mircea_popescu: recall when usg got all butthurt over its bch failure and was going
to crash bitcoin nao ?
a111: Logged on 2017-11-28 04:01 asciilifeform:
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-28#1743510 << betcha mircea_popescu would conclusively barf long before a
thousand, much less 4b, were
to show up, with
their inevitable and loathesome moan 'unfair! virii stole me coinz', 'my gox stole!' and similar leprosies
mircea_popescu: and speaking of which,
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-28#1743518 prolly needs
to be addressed better
than
the original "i wouldn't give a shit" : i'm ready
to
take over
the governance of
the entire world from
the hands of
the inept pretenders of
today, as of yesterday.
the result would be very ~different~, yes, but
that's irrelevant.
☝︎☟︎☟︎ a111: Logged on 2016-11-18 12:53 mircea_popescu: jurov
the problem is one of optics. you have not "seen paying" anyone for .achristianfamily either, but you credit
the empire and discredit
the republic for reasons we're invited
to not misrepresent as misplaced loyalties, i guess. similarly with electrum - yes, for as long as you stick
to
the credit empire discredit republic mindset, it "enables" you.
a111: Logged on 2016-08-29 13:16 mircea_popescu:
take
the general "entrepreneur",
take paul biggar as a much better example.
the kid is definitely intelligent. he wants
to be an entrepreneur. which is a word, which has a meaning. he proceeds
to usianize.
this FAILS
TO DELIVER, but a decade later he is STILL doing it. and apparently hasn't noticed ANYTHING about any of
this. why not ?
a111: Logged on 2017-11-28 03:39 mircea_popescu: somehow if
the usg website comes up with "it's illegal
to smoke",
they stop smoking, AS FUCKING IF. whereas when
the republic orders,
they "have options".
mircea_popescu: the part where
they
thing ~this is okay~
though, is
the problem. peasant of
today, polyester, peasant of 1800, linen,
then when usg says "progress"
they all stand up and clap like
trained seals.
a111: Logged on 2017-11-28 04:19 mircea_popescu: do you know
there is not.one.single.shop selling pure natural fiber shirts in all of costa rica ?
mircea_popescu: modern hobo is not intellectually qualified
to live in 1600s. because if he did, he'd have had
to be pirate.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform eh, even ru peasant knew enough of how world works
to bury.
BingoBoingo: To HNNNGNUNG
the proto-startfish 3.5 billion years ago, arrested for being delicious
BingoBoingo: Middle
tramp was doing what
the redditots will be doing in
their 40's
mircea_popescu: was
the lulziest moment, at "trial" when wediditreddit discovered
that.. .well...
mircea_popescu: was also "on
the run" for 23 years while living at home and getting public health subsidies.
mircea_popescu: easily most accomplished
troll of
the 90s, gave
the (mostly italian speaking) redditards hives.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile,
the
things
that don't have
to be imported (colonials : chocolate, coffee, fresh fruit of land and sea etc) are much preferable. whore suffers naught for a 10 hour
trip in
the plane ;
tuna quite does.
mircea_popescu: if you run a farm you can just lasso
the local cowsies, but if you run a IC plant you prolly have
to attract foreigners.
mircea_popescu: honestly, when it comes
to females imports are always preferable. if you can make do with what
the soil provides you should probably increase your standards.
mircea_popescu: great
tits, great asses, as
tall as your dick altogether.
mircea_popescu: girl here can be had for a hundy a night, and she'll be pliant. he can't get what he's looking for in
the us, at any price ; nor can he really afford
the 2-3k a night
top shelf (ie,
teens,
tall, nice figure, good manners etc)