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trinque: mircea_popescu: not to my knowledge. it'd be a good experiment
assbot: Logged on 03-09-2015 02:49:46; asciilifeform: having to, e.g., work for a living, actually compute costs of things, etc
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-09-2015#1260761 << ftr. this is an abysmal a definition of 'poverty' as whatever gov metric, '>50% spent on room and board' or whatever ☝︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: is a thing, i saw it alive.
asciilifeform: serious multi-decade vegetarians will have problems digesting meat (at least for a while)
asciilifeform: having to, e.g., work for a living, actually compute costs of things, etc ☟︎
mircea_popescu: so right now if you're a spanish speaker salt is white death still.
trinque: granted a small percentage of people actually need it (celiacs, etc)
pete_dushenski just had a moment imagining taxation that wasn't ~distributive~ but actually for summun bonum
mircea_popescu: that article i did about "cheers", the sitcom is very illustrative. twerp in question imagines "class" as in, that ancient matter of a person's quality in society, is a matter of anointed. she thinks some vagabond is "high class" because she went to some school.
assbot: Logged on 03-09-2015 02:08:18; mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> the other interesting thing is that the market is segmented in such a way that anyone who doesn't want mcfood ends up paying for ~all~ the alt-crackpotteries, not merely the logical ones << this is a very valid point, and the one spot where alf's ideas re meta-lizzards sound most persuasive. i do not believe the market is gerrymandered as it is by accident.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-09-2015#1260662 << actually this is the one place where the clean hand of marketronics seems to me most apparent. reasonable sane people are not numerous enough here to be a market segment even to sell a paper clip. ☝︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: in mid july 1989 govt was pretending like romanians did useful work. by 1992 govt was out and out saying that the ~65 dollars a month you earn is barely justified by your work value.
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski /me lived like that for a coupla decades, actually. ro of the 90s was a fab thing.
pete_dushenski: what it would be like to live in an age when ~everything~ seems to be improving, may we one day find out, but that will be a long day from today
pete_dushenski: well, it ~is~ a series of events, and we're witnessing it
pete_dushenski: while some governments or currencies or infrastructure items may fail, it'll be a series of events, not all at once
mod6: what a scam
mircea_popescu: once people lose the ability to confront кто ты по жизни (and notice i did not say "answer"), a numeric classification system is unavoidable.
mod6: oh yeah, they tried to pass all that through a while back.
mircea_popescu: (the silent H in all this being : no, an argentine can't pretend to me to be X or Y or Z. because i have a schematic understanding of what he MAY be, and that is the absolute and enforced limit of his destiny.)
mircea_popescu: but anyway, it's a fine exercise in the importance of "national identity" schemes. they exist so that the actual people can make some sort of sense of the cattle.
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> everyone just eats from bag, like a horse, whenever. << good enough for the pakistani's rapemeat warehouse.
mircea_popescu: take that away, having towns is a waste of everyone's time.
mircea_popescu: the entire point of having a city and cars is the endless line of half-naked farm teenagers begging for a ride, stretching out to the horizon.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform> f everyone were to come by car. << the city as we know it is before that a creation of the "not everyone's invited" principle.
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> mcturd costs a dollar or two. << look at how "inflation" is calculated sometime.
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> the other interesting thing is that the market is segmented in such a way that anyone who doesn't want mcfood ends up paying for ~all~ the alt-crackpotteries, not merely the logical ones << this is a very valid point, and the one spot where alf's ideas re meta-lizzards sound most persuasive. i do not believe the market is gerrymandered as it is by accident. ☟︎☟︎☟︎
asciilifeform has who to cook for him, and isn't even a mircea_popescu
mircea_popescu: <mats> the argument is often made that 'healthy food' in us is expensive <<< healthy food is expensive if you imagine yourself me but for the grace of god, and then attempt to remedy this lack of grace by papering over with money. yes you'll have to pay a lot for someone who doesn't want to, to cook at home for you.
asciilifeform: trinque: the office park where i work is ~80% vacant and you could land a boeing on the parking
funkenstein_: well you could always carry a two ton steel wheelchair with you and wait in line behind idiots
mats: 21:57:42 — +funkenstein_ stood shoulder to shoulder in packed train today comfortably reading book << reminds me when i'd catch a nap in the cattle car during movements between barracks and training site, fully burdened by gear and supported on all sides by other dudes
funkenstein_: hint: being able to close eyes is a start
asciilifeform: realize also that a car takes up, integrated over a typical day, vastly more volume than the wheeled coffin per se occupies
asciilifeform: mats: it is interesting to walk through 'financial' parts of d.c., or nyc, and notice that the offices full of folks too high and mighty to sit on a train, are largely multiple floor after floor of underground and above-ground tower parking, by sheer volume.
mats: 21:49:57 <+asciilifeform> ... the nuance here is that the city as we know it is fundamentally a creation of mass transport. as in, you would have to demolish almost all of new york or london to park cars, if everyone were to come by car. << you ever been to LA?
asciilifeform: everyone just eats from bag, like a horse, whenever.
asciilifeform: they, apparently, do not have (or are moving in the direction) such a thing as 'family sits down for dinner'
asciilifeform: eaten a couplea times a day
asciilifeform: mats: mcfood is not even the end of this line. theodore dalrymple tells us that the standard 'chavv class' brit's dinner is a bag of chips.
asciilifeform: so long as you don't need to exist for more than a decade or three
mats: a buck and some change gets you ~350cals, 14g protein
mats: mcdrivethru is a solid deal if you're looking to just exist, yakno
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-09-2015#1260453 << the nuance here is that the city as we know it is fundamentally a creation of mass transport. as in, you would have to demolish almost all of new york or london to park cars, if everyone were to come by car. ☝︎
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> (with a third, hastily wired in like an iraqi ad hoc mine, 'grow own') << Not so bad, cheap monetarily and in terms of time for the veggies, get expensive quickly for the proteins
asciilifeform: mcturd costs a dollar or two.
asciilifeform: (with a third, hastily wired in like an iraqi ad hoc mine, 'grow own')
asciilifeform: the other interesting thing is that the market is segmented in such a way that anyone who doesn't want mcfood ends up paying for ~all~ the alt-crackpotteries, not merely the logical ones ☟︎☟︎☟︎
mats: and the 'cheap shit' roughly approximates to rice and beans or a mcchicken
mircea_popescu: once we went to a farm, and cow was being milked by girl
mircea_popescu: for a while years ago i amused myself by organising reality tours for various people from afar. sort-of like a conference i guess.
trinque had unpasteurized milk recently; there's a good farm for it nearby ☟︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: all cheese imported,a nd i have very specific cream and kefir/yogurt requirements.
mircea_popescu: except, perhaps, one. hardly any theo and a lot of rem in it.
assbot: 1 results for 'no theorems to prove' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=no+theorems+to+prove
mod6: mircea_popescu: one thing about food in b-a, it's amazing how good /real/ food tastes! lol.
mats: guilty-plea-after-package-tracking-breaks-opsec << what an idiot crime. you gonna set up a stooge at the drop and hope he can outrun the black van?
mircea_popescu: i dunno, who the fuck can eat them. it literally looks like 10x my daily meat intake, and im a consummate carnivore.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile everywhere kfc is going crazy advertising a ... 5 meat patty thing
mircea_popescu: mod6 amusingly enough, the itnernal logic of all this is that sitting lkike a man IS A BEHAVIOUR, see. up to you. whereas being fat like a woman is NOT to the same degree a behaviour. ☟︎
assbot: Guvernul de alba-neagra on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1JCo42y )
mircea_popescu: (my own interpretation of reality being that china has decided there is no need of a us in the future, which would be implemented through a slow divestment so as to extract the maximal value possible out of their holdings. now that they've actually moved on it, they're not going to change course. which means 2010s are the last decade for the us.)
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-09-2015#1259992 >> i'm not even convinced he even for a second proposes that as factual. reads to me like alf's writing a novel in his spare time is all. ☝︎
asciilifeform: not having command of the language, i also lack a good source for this thing.
asciilifeform: (iirc 'v' even, surprised a few people)
asciilifeform: <mircea_popescu> if you also know, the same way, why do you want it ? if you do not, why do you aim to be involved in this ? << that's the magic moment where engineer typically understands (or worse, does not) that the standard is a hierarchical imposition, rather than an act of education like teaching a child to add and substract
mircea_popescu: let me put this question in its proper framing, harking back to the scholastic disputes of a millenium ago.
asciilifeform: the phrase is a nonsensical americanism, aha
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform see, if i were to say "the appearance of best business practices is proof positive business as a going concern is dead" you'd see what i mean
asciilifeform: of a mouse
mircea_popescu: you could run the entire "vc software industry" off of half a brain
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> dawg im not reading that idiot yale grad's bland prose. << It's from their forum. User asks why upgrade left them with a bunch of .js and Derpomatic says if you don't like it install a plugin
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assbot: Logged on 02-09-2015 23:11:23; pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-09-2015#1260034 << anyone with a better eye for 'nuke' damage smell bullshit here ?
asciilifeform: ag3nt_zer0: it is sop, and i know a fella personally who went into and then, a few years later, quit teaching school, for reasons not entirely unlike what was described in your link.
asciilifeform: but yes, from what i can tell, it was not a straight clone
ag3nt_zer0: I do wonder if this type of scene has its foreign parallels or if it is largely a US phenomena: http://www.city-journal.org/html/13_1_how_i_joined.html
mircea_popescu: a degradation of that expectation under the blessings of mass educationm is visible for instance in the very vulgar but sadly necessary habit of peppering ^H^H^H^H in the logs.
mircea_popescu: (this , incidentally, is a large reason why classic texts are so commonly misunderstood by the layman - such as for instance shakespeare by tolstoy. there exists this device where a is replaced by b with the expectation on the part of the writer that the reader notices the substitution and holds it meaningful
pete_dushenski: totally, but within that must lie a grain of truth, or it wouldn't be funny !
mircea_popescu: the second is a tongue in cheek reference to a famous quote
mircea_popescu: try telling the us tax man that "you just never gave a shit about irs stuff"
assbot: Logged on 02-09-2015 17:44:35; ascii_field: '“They use terms to find evidence of whether someone is trying to hide their activities because evidence of a cover-up is frequently more potent than the evidence of the alleged crime,” Brodsky said.'
mircea_popescu: no, seriously, it's a cornerstone of a functioning internal life : always have the source material at the ready.
pete_dushenski: as to spain proper, well, they still have a few museums of note, but other than that it's just doner kebab stands and beaches
shinohai: I have yet to find a decent bitcoin-related blog in Spanish.
pete_dushenski: that's a point, i don't even have 5 years of archives in an obscure latin language for you to toil in until the end of your days
mircea_popescu is glad to see the downward spiral activated, will welcome a world with that excrement pile relegated to its proper corner.
assbot: Logged on 02-09-2015 17:22:41; ascii_field: BingoBoingo et al: http://fusion.net/story/191544/wikipedia-editors-just-banned-381-accounts-over-a-huge-fraud-and-extortion-scandal
pete_dushenski: shinohai: you have other favourites ?! what is this, democristan where you can dabble a bit here and a bit there and figure that all's well ?!!
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pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-09-2015#1260034 << anyone with a better eye for 'nuke' damage smell bullshit here ? ☝︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: "Now I happen to have a large enough domain portfolio that I have my own personal rep at Godaddy"
mircea_popescu: if the alternative costs $19 but breaks down once a day, the 1k one is cheaper.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-09-2015#1259801 << therein lies the answer. 10 cents an hour (and it will be an hour of a top dollar recording studio, charging 1k an hour or some shit for use) is perfectly reasonable. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-09-2015#1259764 << that is a bizarre interpretation. ☝︎
pete_dushenski: wilkinson is a total rockstar