asciilifeform: point being, the higher-level stuff is interesting and useful, but the foundations are crud. mainly, cost of memory and disk at the time made orthogonal persistence a largely unthinkable thing.

asciilifeform: aha.

asciilifeform: it was ~conceptually~ The Right Thing in 1,001 ways that c-machine is not, but not something that really deserves to be rebuilt verbatim (other than for study)

asciilifeform: ~95% undergrad hacks by weight, to get around the quite baroque hardware stack forced by the tech of the period.

asciilifeform: but smbx lispm was actually a terrific crock of shit, implementation-wise

asciilifeform: i can't recall if we had the thread,

asciilifeform: precisely that.

asciilifeform: aha.

asciilifeform: unlikely to happen. unix is a half-dead thing, like pgp.

asciilifeform: lel

asciilifeform: Framedragger: pumping'em in...

asciilifeform: fair enough

asciilifeform: notagain.jpg ☟︎

asciilifeform: winblowz source ACTUALLY looks like this.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: hey, it 'works' for microshit!111111

asciilifeform: and correctly cross-referenced with the originating keys.

asciilifeform: Framedragger: it is because the mods MUST be deduplicated.

asciilifeform: in other lulz: http://nakamotoinstitute.org/mempool/ethereum-is-doomed

asciilifeform: Framedragger: this has nothing to do with the gcd thing

asciilifeform: try to understand why, it is educational.

asciilifeform: Framedragger: the queries can't be batched.

asciilifeform: (the one and only actual bottleneck on phuctor is getting keys in - there is NO way around db query FOR EACH)

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-20#1485617 << nice. these will stoke the furnace for a very long time. ☝︎

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-20#1485610 << how does this work ? ☝︎

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-20#1485551 << i would say 'idiots who believed promises made by state are extinct' but this appears not to be the case. ☝︎

asciilifeform: rather than relying on flagolade

asciilifeform: works on ANY unix

asciilifeform: though when i exclude files, i simply move'em ☟︎

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-20#1485519 << this is potentially useful ☝︎

asciilifeform also. bbl

asciilifeform: i still recall when arsebot was king.

asciilifeform: lel i bet i win by 1 pastespew

asciilifeform: http://tommcfarlin.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/developers-ballmer.jpeg

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: developersdevelopersdevelopersdevelopers!!!11111

asciilifeform: l0lz

asciilifeform: nah that's here in good old phreeeeeeeeeedomland

asciilifeform: ohforfufcssake.

asciilifeform: https://web.archive.org/web/20160304015907/http://www.team.net/mjb/hawg.html << mega-classic re shit toolz, surprised that it isn't in the l0gz

asciilifeform: the shit pillows with the feathers-cum-stems are ubiquitous.

asciilifeform: even if for $1000.

asciilifeform: if you buy 'down pillow' in modern usa you get bag of shit.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: only theoretically.

asciilifeform: i always pictured ben_vulpes's flat as similar to my old 'nazi submarine' (complete with storage bulkheads in obscene places, cramming every possible ullage full of goodiez)

asciilifeform: power tools with batteries - l0l

asciilifeform: and the injured meat.

asciilifeform: add up the cost of all of the materials you've ruined.

asciilifeform: they do not save money, quite the opposite.

asciilifeform: just say no to chinese toolz.

asciilifeform: i saw full size lathe with plastic motherfucking gears.

asciilifeform: but today it is ~futile, almost EVERYTHING has plastic gears

asciilifeform: i've always almost wanted to put together a 'ithasplasticgears.com' public shame list.

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-20#1485400 << let me guess: plastic gears. ☝︎

asciilifeform: you can buy 'down' but it is not same thing.

asciilifeform: aha

asciilifeform: we had forward scout.

asciilifeform: (it appears to be impossible to get feathers-but-no-stems pillow in usa) ☟︎

asciilifeform: i sleep on a pillow made some time in 1970s. by hand.

asciilifeform: along with fucking meat grinder etc.

asciilifeform: believe or not, we took this thing to usa.

asciilifeform: prolly everybody does.

asciilifeform: aha, i have it.

asciilifeform: and is nearly indestructible.

asciilifeform: it worx great

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-20#1485387 << i still have this ! ☝︎

asciilifeform: (yes the modem worked.)

asciilifeform: though, many years ago when i used it, they actually neglected to bill me for almost 2 years.

asciilifeform: first nice thing i ever heard about crapcast

asciilifeform: 'you have died of death'

asciilifeform: where i live, telco will drop the fiber and that's it, any extra plumbing is yours to sweat

asciilifeform: depends what the wall is made of.

asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: i typically reuse the landline opening.

asciilifeform: l0l, and food - from same neighbour's dumpster ?

asciilifeform: i meant cat6

asciilifeform: (or did last owner wire it already)

asciilifeform: buy that hammer drill.

asciilifeform: 'unsealed wood'

asciilifeform: lol i have this right here.

asciilifeform: (important component)

asciilifeform: dun forget the wagner.

asciilifeform: congrats on building bunker ben_vulpes

asciilifeform: somehow.

asciilifeform: well at any rate, turns out they're steerable in free space.

asciilifeform: the sheer variety of nyoooo factz we learned about photons really having charge after all !111111111

asciilifeform: though now we learn that cosmic rays are attracted to debian and popular windowmanager devs.

asciilifeform: ^ flipolade incidentally. snore.

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-19#1485183 << trinque what happened here ? ☝︎

asciilifeform: how many houses has ben_vulpes now ?

asciilifeform: wat

asciilifeform: a good ad is a dead ad.

asciilifeform bbl

asciilifeform: what other burbulations quietly fester in orcish heads, i wonder.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: lulzy re 'quantum computer miner drained mtgox'

asciilifeform: naturally.

asciilifeform: when burbuja.

asciilifeform: it is quite impossible imho not to think of this.

asciilifeform: the next morning, commander tours the base, says to sergeant: 'everything seems ok, but what is this nonsense, they showed me the scrapyard and your men threw out a perfectly fine burbulator!!!' ☟︎

asciilifeform: sergeant: 'motherfucker. you ruined a bucket. throw it into the skip and go clean latrine for the rest of the month.'

asciilifeform: soldier punched hole in a bucket, with nail, and said to sergeant: 'look, my brilliant invention: the burbulator. see, i pour in water, it burbles.'

asciilifeform: went like this:

asciilifeform: ( a word which has since, in 2000s, come to refer to what americans call 'bong', but was originally without a specific meaning )