asciilifeform: the beauty of actually standardized prog lang

asciilifeform: (perfectly possible to dev on one while deploying on other!)

asciilifeform: but no, i'm actually curious what i might win by using cmucl

asciilifeform: my repl worx...

asciilifeform: it's dross

asciilifeform: for what do we even need the interp?

asciilifeform: (i have nfi - was there money involved ?)

asciilifeform: how?

asciilifeform: cannibalized ?

asciilifeform: kinda how i boot up that cute x86 systemv and then notice that it is PALPABLY slow on modern pentium because it lacks ANY disk cache etc. ☟︎☟︎

asciilifeform: cmucl feels 'clean' but is missing what i consider to be essential functionality (native threads, mainly)

asciilifeform: sorta like comparing modern bsds to systemv

asciilifeform: it is the mature end

asciilifeform: that's the point here

asciilifeform: it isn't clean at all

asciilifeform: oh no!

asciilifeform: systems which are 'cute when they're baby' but loathesome when mature

asciilifeform: naggum had a great piece on these:

asciilifeform: great for bedtime reading, but not so hot to run

asciilifeform: i see cmucl as sorta like that system-v unix revival

asciilifeform: http://www.ai.mit.edu/projects/iiip/doc/cl-http/server.html << it

asciilifeform: cl-http is the mega-classic (by the nsa bloke who bought symbolics !! iirc) but it had a very strange license which prohibited just about any practical use, and so did not catch on

asciilifeform: ^

asciilifeform: allegroserve?

asciilifeform: lemmeguess

asciilifeform: eh let's hear it

asciilifeform: 404

asciilifeform: hi phf . log down??

asciilifeform: apparently.

asciilifeform: mats: this is probably in the logs, but the log is down

asciilifeform: etc.

asciilifeform: vox populi, vox dei!1111111111111

asciilifeform: http://bitcoinocracy.com/arguments/in-the-event-of-a-fork-i-will-sell-rbf-blockstream-core-coins-and-buy-classic-bitcoins << other examples of 'consensooooos washing'

asciilifeform: the peter todd turd is a true classic of its genre: 'we gotta commit an atrocity. but we first will get CONSENSOOOS!!1111 so then it won't be an atrocity, fuckyou. and btw we control the vertical and the horizontal and all the votez, so fuckyou.x2' ☟︎

asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu what would it cost to have the magic eth tx mined ?

asciilifeform: usg coin has 100% usg-compliant minerz? nyooz at 11. ☟︎

asciilifeform: kes the co-operation of two or three people to achieve the majority of hashing power necessary to freeze funds' << lel

asciilifeform: 'I’ve heard reports that the first part of Vitalik’s fork proposal has already happened: miners have frozen the funds taken from the DAO with a soft-fork, which means that miners are blacklisting any transaction that moves those funds, as well as refusing to mine on top of blocks containing transactions moving those funds. That’s not very hard to do as - like Bitcoin - Ethereum mining is sufficiently centralized that it only ta

asciilifeform: log still dead.

asciilifeform: (the dope is for when you need minister of finance whateverthefuck to start spewing rubbish on camera, or jump from his window with only mild assistance, etc) ☟︎

asciilifeform: no need for dope.

asciilifeform: trinque: the latter worked, since at least hammurabi.

asciilifeform: ;;later tell phf log is down ?

asciilifeform: this is elementary. ☟︎

asciilifeform: (what if he turns tail?)

asciilifeform: they wouldn't ever send 1 bloke.

asciilifeform: phf: log 404?????????

asciilifeform: i can easily see the idiot signing up to 'fire some blanks, scare some folk'

asciilifeform: what - if any - to believe re mr snackbar's Official biography, is matter of taste.

asciilifeform: (rather than 'academe' etc.)

asciilifeform: speaking here of ordinary, unremarkable security co., as in the kind who drive cash wagons etc.

asciilifeform: trinque: in usa private guards, typically, get - sometimes - a little pistol training.

asciilifeform: i propose that mr snackbar's score would have been nearly same if he had fired blanks.

asciilifeform: random fire dun hit much in a 3d world. ☟︎

asciilifeform: 2 full-auto rifles, 1,100 rounds, 0 dead crowd.

asciilifeform: btw recall the hollywood shootout (same one as in mircea_popescu's article) ?

asciilifeform: mr snackbar's ? or the batman one

asciilifeform: the 'batman' incident

asciilifeform: recall, last bloke who (we were told) emptied 3 clips into crowded cinema, scored... 9 ?

asciilifeform: trinque: firing.

asciilifeform: (who, for all i know, scored 0 personally)

asciilifeform: cheaper still considering that usg will pin ALL of the corpses on mr snackbar.

asciilifeform: aha, precisely that one

asciilifeform: this is how cops ended up with full auto weapons to begin with, incidentally

asciilifeform: as it was, they picked grenades over chancing mr snackbar's bullet.

asciilifeform: they would happily dynamite the entire building if they could plausibly dress it up as 'perp did it'

asciilifeform: anyway the police are useful idiots in this play.

asciilifeform: http://media.miamiherald.com/static/media/projects/2016/pulse/tiktok/FloorPlan.jpg << Official floor plan.

asciilifeform: http://www.slate.com/content/dam/slate/blogs/outward/2016/06/15/after_orlando_s_pulse_massacre_queer_nightlife_workers_are_on_high_alert/539630790-agents-investigate-the-damaged-rear-wall-of-the-pulse.jpg << bigger pic.

asciilifeform: (the practice dates to at least turing's time, there is a monument near the toilet he used)

asciilifeform: where, apparently, they customarily fuck

asciilifeform: the published floor plan showed whole bar having GIGANTIC public toilet in the back half

asciilifeform: Officially.

asciilifeform: in single-file, with mr snackbar at the lead ?

asciilifeform: storage room from which all of the survivers emerged ?

asciilifeform: and Only A Terrorist Would Ask (TM) (R) how one can blow 5+ grenade holes in a cement wall, clean through, without fragging any of the hundreds of schmucks hiding behind it

asciilifeform: probably journarasts

asciilifeform: also. at least 5 grenades.

asciilifeform: and this apparently is a MAGICAL wall that doesn't shower folks with frags behind it when you blow it up....

asciilifeform: (standard, apparently, police gear in usaschwitz, now.)

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: Officially (tm) a wall-breaching grenade, purpose-made

asciilifeform: also has own fractures.

asciilifeform: nope.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: same tool. ever notice that even at the range, the holes in the paper have different shapes ? esp. at max distance ? the bullet - tumbles.

asciilifeform: which is even lulzier than 'police blew hole then shot everything that moved'

asciilifeform: in order for mr. snackbar to make any of the pictured holes, he would have had to climb out, police - cheering him on from behind his back, while he fired back into the hole.

asciilifeform: Official Truth is that mr snackbar was inside. police dynamited hole, and - Officially - waited for ~him~, rather than victims, to emerge, then fired

asciilifeform: fractures.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: cement isn't paper

asciilifeform: ideal weapon for bullying a crowd, guarding concentration camp, etc.

asciilifeform: same basic idea.

asciilifeform: it is ~equivalent.

asciilifeform: when they decided that nailing whole crowd was a-ok

asciilifeform: americans. during prohibition.

asciilifeform: (made by same folks)

asciilifeform: like schmeisser.

asciilifeform: thing is 'garden hose'

asciilifeform: they were prominently displayed in some of the earlier releases.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the orlando police carry h&k mp5

asciilifeform: that is, there is not a weapon that will produce these if fired from inside.