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mircea_popescu: and
there's nothing wrong with a weekly rhythm of it either, gives reader chance
to follow along.
mircea_popescu: also lettuce announce
there's going
to be a nov-dec joint qntra statement.
mircea_popescu: let me
take
this opportunity
to point out
to asciilifeform
that his first item in
the epic ffa write-up was dec 1st.
this is dec 4th. wasn't it supposed
to be a 1 hour apart publishing or what's going on
there ?
shinohai: all your forkcoin belong
to shinohai
mircea_popescu: in other machine-made lulz,
http://archive.is/rdZnl :
the
title is "the comehack" for some reason, but
the header is me walkin' with a newspaper wrapped machete in hand.
mod6: jurov: I personally haven't considered it. We'll get back
to you on
that.
jurov: mod6: ben_vulpes: have you decided about forked coins on foundation's address? should i report
them, or sell, or
they don't exist?
lobbes: That list has been fed into
the Archivierungsprozess. Gonna let it chug along and will report results.
lobbes: in archive news:
through leveraging a bash script comb for urls appearing in
teh logs on btcbase (hats off
to phf for
the impressive historic span), I was able
to compile a list of ~142000 links dating back
to August 2012.
☟︎ BingoBoingo: Kinda why I waited
to deed it. Gotta publish
the statement with
the open questions, let powers greater
than myself comment.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo so why not have
two rows line normal people. started at 1 0
then moved
to 0 7842
then ended at 0 4990 << NSA and MG had not been notating fiatolade, so I assumed how
to handle an open question. Will put
together a leperolade line
danielpbarron: even
the buy it now price is a good deal if
the price is still 0.0395
danielpbarron: relatedly, i have a FG listed for auction on ebay at
the moment.
mircea_popescu: well... if you feel like documenting it so i'm not
the only one explaining how reddit is worth <
than
the slashdot's coupla mil, lock stock and barrel...
danielpbarron: i bought some reddit ad
time for it but nothing ever came of it
mircea_popescu: well, 1 is better
than 0. it's not like
there's 2 and i'm proposing one quit.
mircea_popescu: but if you're going
to have a standard os you're going
to have a standard os.
mircea_popescu: pretty sure
this guy will actually send you one if you pay him ; as opposed
to
the other one.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform well, for eg danielpbarron has
that selling eulora boxes
thing.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo so why not have
two rows line normal people. started at 1 0
then moved
to 0 7842
then ended at 0 4990
mircea_popescu: fortunately it's a whole pile of source
that nobody could possibly ever want,
a111: Logged on 2017-02-07 19:35 asciilifeform:
the ftmeade jargon, iirc, is 'nobus' ('no one but us'), in contrast with 'phuctor-style' discoverable hole.
mircea_popescu: "more secure" in
the sense of, "against non-nsa attackers only"
mircea_popescu: i'm guessing
the gcc 6 branch lacks any sort of incentive exactly in
the manner gcc 5 did, making
this kind of measures necessary ?
mircea_popescu: is
the idea here
that "should you attempt
to ask questions on stackexchange
there'll be a crowd of politruks whining about it" ? or something else ?
jurov: what's
there
to understand. want
to run gentoo on gcc 4, you're on your own.
jurov: "The default C++ language version for applications is now C++14...means, however,
that compilers earlier
than GCC 6 are masked and not supported for use as a system compiler anymore."
jurov: The 13.0 profiles will be deprecated
then and removed in half a year."
mircea_popescu: "Modularity and code reuse are, of course, A Good
Thing. Even in
the most
trivially simple case, however,
the CS/IT dogma of code reuse is
totally foreign in
the bazaar:
the software in
the FreeBSD ports collection contains at least 1,342 copied and pasted cryptographic algorithms." << of which none actually work, is
the caper.
mircea_popescu: people generally laugh at flaubert for having spent however many weeks
to discern if 20 or 22 degrees was "more adequate in his
text", but
the elided
truth of
the matter is
that
they who ~entirely~ lack
the mechanism
there used in excess are in a much sadder spot
than poor ol' oncle g.
mircea_popescu: whereas
to literate folk,
this is a major
topic. "i...can't say
that. why can't i say
that ? why won't
that let itself be said ?!"
mircea_popescu: in fact,
they don't expect language pushback (resistance of medium) at all whatsoever, and don't understand how
to decode when
the words are crying
to
the heavens
their sadness in abuse.
mircea_popescu: all
the foregoing aside (and much related
to what you say) i suspect
this is also a very specific vulnerability of
the esl folk, in
that
they DONT expect
the language
to complain when misused.
a111: 2017-10-06 <Framedragger> yes but someone committing
to
the project without having
the necessary
time is not far away from malice, imho
a111: Logged on 2016-08-17 17:13 phf: Framedragger: i was young and a bum, i recognized all
these people because my entertainment machine would reinforce
their presence for me. "oh jwz is
talking. oh now it's ptacek. oh it's paul graham! squee". but
they were always in a different category from say norvig or knuth or naggum. once i started doing and learning (i.e. painfully read knuth, rather
than just have him on my shelf) i finally was able
to grok
the difference.
mircea_popescu: the first is how articles are born in
the first place, half
the
time. because "lo! bad construct detected!"
mircea_popescu: the second is more
than half
tyhe
time how
trilema articles end up so long,
those
that do --
there was a shorter
thing
there
that didn't hold, but for expressive rather
than fundamentalreasons.
phf: do you see it rationally and
then deconstruct it, or do you first experience
the wrongness and
then seek
the source of it? because if it's
the first one,
then i'm possible lacking necessary
tools, but if it's
the second,
then i just don't always get
to
the seeking out
the source part
mircea_popescu: i can't be
the only one dedicated enough
to
the craft
to actually be bothered by such.
mircea_popescu: how does he manages
to avoid
the exception, you know ? "this enumeration... it doesn't work... what am i actually
talking about ?"
mircea_popescu: shit happens
to me ALL!
THE!
TIME!!!! writing
trilema pieces.
mircea_popescu: somehow he manages
to write
that AND NOT at
the same
time
throw an error. "wait... i... can't actually explain
this ?!"
phf: despite
the references
to brooks, nobody's actually practicing what brooks advocated, so
the name and
the books are reduced
to a charm. yet another cargo cult
phf: right, i
think perhaps
the problem of
this particular
turn of phrase, is
that he can't actually name what makes him a better
than average programmer (like ascii's fits in head, or Principles, or), so he's reduced
to a shortcut
that is insufficient
mircea_popescu: even leaving
the particulars aside, what you
teach greenhorns is
to BE LESS EXCITED!!! not "be less responsible".
mircea_popescu: now, it's
true we use superglue on skin
tears, but it's not
true
that such nonsense as
that described can be a racing
toolkit.
mircea_popescu: i can't read it any other way
than "my racing
toolkit consists of duct
tape, cyanoacrylate, and just-add-water wheel assemblages
to be bolted down on any 2x2 inch flat surface you might wish".
mircea_popescu: if i were
trying
to
teach
the "greenhorns" in 1990s how
to survive, i'd make
them read eg knuth. literate programming. stuff.
mircea_popescu: phf i can't read it like
that in
the context of
the
three items
that he offers as his
tools of
the
trade.
phf: in
the original it's "os install",
the idea is automatic instead of manual provisioning. we practice it here
mircea_popescu: tbh, oreilly was minnow back when oop started, just
tried
to wave a ride.