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asciilifeform: this is sadly an instance of http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-02#1745589 , apeloyee : if i can't compactly mark the carry-in and/or carry-out as unreferenced , the compiler shits forth unusably slow bin. ☝︎
apeloyee: are those gone now?
asciilifeform: 'O' stood for 'outputoverflow'. which in turn was exactly same as FZ_Shift_Left_I , which permitted only ~input~ of overflow; which in turn was otherwise identical to FZ_ShiftLeft, which permitted neither.
asciilifeform: apeloyee: it went like this, (OF_in : in WBool; N : in FZ; ShiftedN : out FZ; Count : in WBit_Index; Overflow : out Word)
a111: Logged on 2017-12-05 18:27 trinque: what great difference does it make whether the notation spaces the words or not
a111: Logged on 2017-12-05 18:13 asciilifeform: https://archive.is/ogLAM << lulgem from same rag as ben_vulpes's link, 'People keep finding hidden cameras in their Airbnbs'
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-05#1746785 << i don't get what the fuck ELSE did they imagine it's for ? normal people taking tramps in for a fuck&suck say so. that they don't say so just means they're WEIRD, it doesn't mean "it ain't gonna occur". a tramp's a tramp, a thing, like a hammer, with a proper usage implicit. aaanyway. ☝︎
asciilifeform: and the savings of text 'kilogrammage' -- not worth it.
apeloyee: there was in the old pastes, for example, one procedure FZ_ShiftLeft_O taking 5 arguments, how did you choose thier order?
asciilifeform: i've begun to suspect that overloadism is unhealthy, fundamentally.
asciilifeform: i've been thinking about abolishing function overloading in ffa. ( there is apparently even a pragma for cementing it )
asciilifeform: apeloyee: where then is problem
asciilifeform: carry of X + Y or borrow of X - Y depends on the carry-out of a + b + carry_in , or a - b - borrow_in, respectively.
asciilifeform: take two registers, let's write each from eldest bit to youngest:
asciilifeform: apeloyee: let's work the whole thing here
apeloyee: plz to be very very specific << chapter 1 is no problem.
asciilifeform: ( declared warmism permanently cemented orlov into this company , as typical clitler voter, the other major warmist demographic, tends not to read collapse bl0gz )
apeloyee: i also need to understand/fit in head/convince myself of the line re "extends to any N bit register". << schoolbook addition method shows that the MSB and carry-out depend only on MSB of operands and the carry-in to the most significant place; the carry-in can be derived from result's MSB and the summand's (as their sum modulo 2, aka xor), thus the register width doesn't matter
asciilifeform: the 'grandmothers sew gold coin into underwear' touch is a bone thrown to his current 'anarchoprimitivist'-flavour-of-dumb readership
mircea_popescu: yeah, so much nonsense available to choose from, why dress from the 2013 dumb store.
asciilifeform: ( even the typical ru chitchatosphere plankton has advanced from 2013 'sooner or later gas for all' to a 2014 state of the art 'the lizards use btc themselves, hence slow gas' or even a 2015 'lolcatcoin-of-the-future will sink errything as it tanks' etc
mircea_popescu: in this bitcoinarry bit ross, mr levine orlov doesn't get the GOOD leads.
mircea_popescu: eh, still rehashing the http://trilema.com/2013/stage-n-bitcoin-exists/ moldbug talking points ? what is he, 3rd hand pinoy, they only let him have the dead leads ?
asciilifeform: from this point on i'ma not spoil it.
a111: Logged on 2017-12-05 21:32 apeloyee: I'm still curious what gcd there will be. I admit defeat regarding the binary GCD I posted earlier - after trying to make an extended GCD out of it, it ballooned to 100+ LOC, and it doesn't work. Meaning it doesn't fit in head... (BTW the orginal code snipped I posted has a mux which always picks wrong input)
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-05#1746870 << it will be in 8th or possibly 9th chapter, per current plan. so stay tuned. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-12-05 21:18 apeloyee: I'd like to ask asciilifeform to document the parameter ordering convention in ffa. chapter 1 is straightforward, but the various shifts posted earlier seemed to have their parameters in order which I don't understand.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-05#1746857 << plz to be very very specific ? link to specific lines, using http://btcbase.org/patches/ffa_ch1_genesis/tree/ ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-12-05 10:39 mircea_popescu: trinque http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/C0G3d/?raw=true
mircea_popescu takes this opportunity to point out to trinque that LO! (and also... http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-05#1746368 ) ☝︎
mircea_popescu: irene_yvonne do one each, what's to keep you.
mircea_popescu: check it out, ENDIAN TITS!
irene_yvonne: is there any extra credit for one pic with two girls? we also have a cute bitcoin poster
mircea_popescu: is one friend irene and the other friend yvonne ?
irene_yvonne: hi! we're two friends who saw your article here---> http://trilema.com/2014/ill-pay-for-your-tits/
mircea_popescu: want to go indoors, get a people name.
mircea_popescu: here's a new atlanta city bylaw : if your name is "kwanza" you go in the pens with the other barn animals.
a111: Logged on 2017-12-05 18:08 asciilifeform: '"There's no way on earth that the city that raised Dr. King … is going to allow ourselves to go backwards," said City Councilman Kwanza Hall.'
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-05#1746781 << motherfucker. allowing idiots by the name kwanza indoors is ALREADY THE PROBLEM. ☝︎
apeloyee: I'm still curious what gcd there will be. I admit defeat regarding the binary GCD I posted earlier - after trying to make an extended GCD out of it, it ballooned to 100+ LOC, and it doesn't work. Meaning it doesn't fit in head... (BTW the orginal code snipped I posted has a mux which always picks wrong input) ☟︎
ben_vulpes: my personal handicaps are neither here nor there, though
ben_vulpes: i also need to understand/fit in head/convince myself of the line re "extends to any N bit register".
ben_vulpes: working out the full adder; i did verify a bunch of the proof table, and then figured that since i have such a tenuous grasp on the subject matter i should do everything asciilifeform recommended.
ben_vulpes: i will admit to still attempting to fit in head the deduction of carry and borrow algo
apeloyee: but ffa itself, from what I've seen, does not do that.
ben_vulpes: apeloyee: can also reference them by name in ada; i personally hate positional args
a111: Logged on 2017-12-05 17:47 asciilifeform: orrect code! consider that alternative. programming digitalmachines is not an inductive activity, we do not play-pretend at programming, we do not 'let's see what happens' . programming is a ~deductive~ activity...' )
a111: Logged on 2017-12-03 23:41 asciilifeform: re gcc, recall also that it's been put on the usg hitlist, they would like to lead it to a level of dysfunction that will have naive folx welcoming its shooting behind the shed and replacement with Officially blessed clang-llvm
a111: Logged on 2017-12-05 17:39 asciilifeform: for bonus lulz ( was this intentional, mircea_popescu ? ) the example proggy, 'opera', is a closed turd
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-05#1746771 << as opposed to what exactly "open" turd out there ? http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-03#1746024 ? or what precisely are we comparing to here. openbios ? name the standard "open". ☝︎☝︎☟︎
apeloyee: I'd like to ask asciilifeform to document the parameter ordering convention in ffa. chapter 1 is straightforward, but the various shifts posted earlier seemed to have their parameters in order which I don't understand. ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2017-12-02 22:17 mircea_popescu: "oh but mp... really... i can't do anything, not usefully, not well, not within pre-glacial timeframes, not... not..."
a111: Logged on 2017-12-02 22:00 mircea_popescu: !~later tell apeloyee hey, do you want a job working for minigame ?
mircea_popescu: the caption reads "your favourite slut is back", if that helps anything.
a111: Logged on 2017-12-05 17:12 asciilifeform: 'Kobi Snitz ... Early in his undergraduate studies in the early 1990's, Kobi has been introduced to the fundamental questions of computer science. These range from questions of computability and the future of computing to questions about computers and society'
ben_vulpes: "Sorry my friend, you need to be logged in..."
mircea_popescu: and in other scary things, https://fetlife.com/users/7995439
asciilifeform: even managed to squeeze in the usual spiel re 'physical utility of gold'
asciilifeform: apparently no concentration camps until 12000.00 , is the orlolidea.
asciilifeform: also includes obligatory discussion of shitcoin-of-the-day ( in orlol's case, 'cryptokitties' ) as if they were bitcoin.
asciilifeform: lopers would then have to bring their architecture into compliance or risk prosecution for noncompliance. '
asciilifeform: and for the gold medal, 'Worse yet, if a government decides that Bitcoin is its friend, it can ask, nicely at first, that all Bitcoin transactions be disclosed to it in a timely manner, complete with the tax ID of the party at each end of every transaction. This would be a clever way for a government to shift to using digital cash without having to pay for any of it. All it would have to do is order “compliance”; Bitcoin’s deve
asciilifeform: 'if some government decides that Bitcoin is not its friend, it can simply ask you, nicely at first, to relinquish your cyberwallet to it. I doubt that too many of the Saudi princes that were recently disencumbered of much of their net worth while being tortured by Prince Mohammed bin Salman at the Ritz-Carlton in Riyadh ended up playing coy ' ☟︎
asciilifeform: 'has become a magnet for drug dealers, narcotraffickers, human traffickers, hackers/extortionists and other bad actors. If you use Bitcoin, you automatically end up on the radar of those who hunt for them'
asciilifeform: representative sample, 'bloodsucking bankers and governments are unlikely to be defeated by an algorithm, no matter how clever, because they use far less technical means to enforce their interests: security agencies, criminal investigators and prosecutors, tax auditors, courts and prisons' ☟︎
asciilifeform: or perhaps moar fairly, rip of http://unqualified-reservations.blogspot.com/2011/04/on-monetary-restandardization.html , http://unqualified-reservations.blogspot.com/2013/01/how-bitcoin-dies.html , and one other yarvin that i've misplaced
asciilifeform: ( almost total rip off http://www.loper-os.org/?p=939 , with 'shit bolted on the side' )
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-05#1746367 << seems to be back. ☝︎☟︎
a111: Logged on 2017-12-05 14:28 mircea_popescu: but the man who decides to pursue pure research and is annoyed that industry meanwhile makes money is in a very strange mental space.
asciilifeform: this, i suppose, is the 'industry' in http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-05#1746553 ☝︎☟︎
asciilifeform: 'At the time of writing, the median, or mid-range, price of a CryptoKitty is approximately $23.06 (£17.19), according to Crypto Kitty Sales. The game's top cat brought in $117,712.12 (£87,686.11) when it sold on Saturday, 2 December.'
ben_vulpes: but, you know, "child pr0n in teh blockchain!"
ben_vulpes: > these crytpo-collectibles are also gender-fluid, able to play the role of either the "dame" or the "sire" when bred
trinque goes to find warmhungerstoppingsustenancewads
trinque should be better about making a point rather than implying one
asciilifeform: and langs without LeverforholdingElevatorTrimAdjustmentMechanisminplacifier tend to get encrusted with abbrev crud, annoyingly.
asciilifeform: right, but to put it there costs slightly more.
trinque: if the tree were present it wouldn't be written in a line ltr, not that I argue against the usefulness of being able to synthesize new words.
asciilifeform: rather than burying it under the compounds
asciilifeform: trinque: it makes a difference, makes tree parsable out
trinque: guaranteed the folks reading de are still identifying individual words in the wads
asciilifeform: asciilifeform ends up emitting things like 'constantspacetimeexponentiator' and he isn't even a german.
trinque: what great difference does it make whether the notation spaces the words or not ☟︎
ben_vulpes: years though it has been since i spent any significant time speaking/reading delang i still do not laugh
asciilifeform: english folx laugh at these but there isn't a way to even say them in eng.
ben_vulpes: ah haha nono, i'd have strung together a LeverforholdingElevatorTrimAdjustmentMechanisminplacifier together in that case
asciilifeform: was vaguely implied that it was a worthy place
ben_vulpes: oh did the sarcasm not come through?
asciilifeform: incidentally i cannot resist to ask ben_vulpes , http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-05#1746707 , what is so 'real' about walmartistan ? ☝︎
asciilifeform: https://archive.is/ogLAM << lulgem from same rag as ben_vulpes's link, 'People keep finding hidden cameras in their Airbnbs' ☟︎
asciilifeform: '"There's no way on earth that the city that raised Dr. King … is going to allow ourselves to go backwards," said City Councilman Kwanza Hall.' ☟︎
asciilifeform: 'The candidates in Tuesday's runoff election for the city's next mayor are both women, both city council members, and both tout support for progressive policies. One is black, the other is white.' << lol so paint the unpainted one, problemsolved!1111!!
asciilifeform: orrect code! consider that alternative. programming digitalmachines is not an inductive activity, we do not play-pretend at programming, we do not 'let's see what happens' . programming is a ~deductive~ activity...' ) ☟︎
asciilifeform: ( lessee if i properly ate & shat, 'i do not consider myself a programmer, for i have another craft. let's say i am an amateur programmer. and yet though i am an amateur, i find myself having written tens of thou. of loc in this-here life. and at least a min of 10k loc for web. but wanna hear sumthing ? never have i created a security hole in any. never. do you suppose i simply had good luck ? possibly luck. or possibly i wrote the c ☟︎
asciilifeform: quoting mircea_popescu's comment for the permal0gz : 'Eu nu ma consider un programator, ca am alta meserie. Sa zicem ca sunt un programator amator. Dar chiar si asa, programator amator cum ma gasesc tot am scris citeva zeci de mii de linii de cod in viata asta. Din care minim zece mii pentru web. Vrei sa-ti spun o chestie ? N-am avut niciodata in nici un caz nicicind gauri de securitate in ele. Niciodata. Noa de ce crezi tu ? Am avut
asciilifeform: ( and since replaced with a ~different~ closed turd, when they threw out the hand-asm or what was it that norwegian ministry of telecom wrote, and replaced with crapple's engine )
asciilifeform: for bonus lulz ( was this intentional, mircea_popescu ? ) the example proggy, 'opera', is a closed turd ☟︎
asciilifeform: muchly upstack , http://trilema.com/2011/nu-mai-faceti-upgrade-la-nimic-niciodata from earlier mircea_popescu thread is a good read.
asciilifeform: who knows whether 'shakespeare, or a man by the same name' but still.
asciilifeform: ( may be redundant sentence, it isn't as if they had any other use for which to steal )