log☇︎
137500+ entries in 0.049s
mircea_popescu: mod6 aww, you didn't choke on the submit part did you ? just gpg --encrypt --armor -r bingo and put the text into dpaste or wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform sure, just gotta start peeling at a corner.
mircea_popescu: win-win.
mircea_popescu: yet another avenue to bleed the state and it's supporters (fucktarded parents with utility bills).
mircea_popescu: his government pays an extra 40 bux a month ; his parents pay an extra 30 bux a month (not counting amortisation for hardware) and he gets 15 dollars a month out of maybe 25 to 50 dollars' worth of monthly utility delivered to the world.
mircea_popescu: but in general, i fully expect this to work in the sense that random kid makes money to play everquest or w/e the fuck he plays through the avenue of renting the box.
mircea_popescu: such as, sell them out for number crunching ; but not for pinging. or w/e.
mircea_popescu: yeah well. anyway, if your windows boxes are owned through the tenuous interface of whatever random chump-trojan, perhaps not allow a number of operations you feel you're vulnerable to.
mircea_popescu: and that's just about all i care about.
mircea_popescu: i know it's not an ~insurmountable~ problem, in the context and per the definitions relevant.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i don't have a solution ; because this is a design not an implementation.
mircea_popescu: wtf is so hard about this. so random twerp likes to have b and pretend it's a. good for him, random twerps like to lie in their accounting ever since they were invented. this is what "bitcoin investments" on the forum were all about throughout. so ?
mircea_popescu: a) if your control on the box is strong, then your control on the box is strong. this means you fix the problem ; b) if your control on the box is weak, this means your control on the box is weak. this means you understand you can lose it.
mircea_popescu: phf we're playing this alf invented game where he picks an item and ignores all the rest.
mircea_popescu: this is a wotless joke. you don't even know 1k people.
mircea_popescu: you rent THE SAME item to 1k diff folks ?
mircea_popescu: "list of trusted peers for accepting orders and verifying Bitcoin payments ; administrative policies as appropriate." this has a meaning.
mircea_popescu: you know who you rent to, do you ?
mircea_popescu: client that hoses boxes i suppose doesn't get to rent more, what.
mircea_popescu: this is the borg. cube lands and starts sucking the earth from under their feet. no shits given, at all, much like i don't look for anthill oppinions before during or after real estate development.
mircea_popescu: but you discuss it as if i'd give a half of a flying fuck.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-10#1479850 << something of this very nature. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform once evolutionary pressure is on, you might even get that something.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-10#1479839 << really, who the everloving shit cares about the needs, hopes and aspirations of 19yo script kiddies. fuck 'em. maybe if they have a sister and she's slutty i might be interested. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-10#1479833 <<< don't deal with bozos. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: it's plenty sexy. it resolves a number of notable problems, correctly - which is to say without support for usg.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-10#1479854 ☝︎
mircea_popescu: soooo why should we care about this ?
mircea_popescu: so then what exactly was lost.
mircea_popescu: whatever we may be speaking of.
mircea_popescu: inasmuch as something is computable ; defection is attributable.
mircea_popescu: trust. it builds. all that's needed is a marketplace to build it.
mircea_popescu: still ; you have a botnet you're worried about, can parcel it out, rent 10 chunks of 1k machines to 10 people, see who runs with it etc.
mircea_popescu: you're welcome to believe that, if you wish. but this place is constructed on that being stupid.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform this "little different" is essentially saying "the wot is a nice toy but it'll never scale".
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the fact remains you can not, at this present time, distinguish your own node on random box from faux node planted there.
mircea_popescu: really, these objections belong pre 2010.
mircea_popescu: a "reasonable competent" whatever could... what, bother deedbot. hurr durr.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-10#1479825 << there's a wot for this. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-10#1479820 << exactly how you "verify" now. go, verify phuctor. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: possibly gnutella also of interest.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-10#1479819 << allow me to lol. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: be all that as it may.
mircea_popescu: give it some time, it'll work fine. if aws works, if folding@home works, if torrents work this'll work superbly.
mircea_popescu: socialism.
mircea_popescu: other than the numerous deliberate sabotages, tor fails in a game theoretic manner - no incentive to participate.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform actually this should work as a proper tor relay for gossipd.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-10#1479809 << factually, there's about a billion and a half of them. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: "apparently an intern installed uci. it's the third time this week."
mircea_popescu: they must be ~unable to retain control over any box.
mircea_popescu: bitcoin is good, but ~not enough. it's not enough for enemy to be unable to retain the salaried interest of dea thugs.
mircea_popescu: ALL computers. ie, the computer attached to the 3d printer as much as to the atm at the bank as much as anything else.
mircea_popescu: never mind the chicken perspective. this commoditizes computers.
mircea_popescu: currently we have "reliable", and i don't want it.
mircea_popescu: because unreliable is much much better than "reliable"
mircea_popescu: storage only for instance.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-10#1479805 << doesn't have to be botnet. for one thing, once this is ready i'll be running it on dedi boxes. for another thing, you make your own administrative policies. sell for whatever price you want whatever you want to sell. ☝︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-10#1479792 << exactly. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-09#1479772 << elided e's. feats of fortitude :D ☝︎
mircea_popescu: mod6 anyway, go ahead an' write it up, i already did a qntra today
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-09#1479756 <<< i dun recall where that got mired ; iirc mike_c wanted some data from trinque no idea if he ever got it an' he's been kinda awol. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-09#1479749 << this is tru ☝︎
mircea_popescu: aha
mircea_popescu: well no the other way around ; 7 depends on them
mircea_popescu: any convention's just a convention after all.
mircea_popescu: i guess just takes getting used to
mircea_popescu: correct.
mircea_popescu: did i do them backwards ?
mircea_popescu: (do x) -> (so you can do y) -> (so you can be done)
mircea_popescu: shouldn't arrows point from root to fruit ?
mircea_popescu: no but hm.
mircea_popescu: of course... aren't the arrows backwards ?
mircea_popescu: sveet!
mircea_popescu: i'd give it a few mins.
mircea_popescu: maybe not yet long enough though
mircea_popescu: http://thebitcoin.foundation/tickets/UCI_tickets.html << only 4 tickets oddly.
mircea_popescu: prolly some race conditions i'd guess
mircea_popescu: caps
mircea_popescu: if nothing else, it'll put an actual market rate on running bitcoin nodes. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: if it is computing, it belongs to us.
mircea_popescu: map the entire dns system, eavesdrop the entire internet, create your own dns, launch satellites and nukes (hey, who's to say what peripherals a given machine has, amirite ?), whatever.
mircea_popescu: do anything you damn well please - from hosting your (uninterdictable) website on half a million random machines to nuking whitehouse.org ☟︎
mircea_popescu: does this make sense to anyone outside of yours truly ? asciilifeform ? davout ? jurov ? phf ? trinque ? ☟︎☟︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: win.
mircea_popescu: %p UCI 8
mircea_popescu: %add UCI F "Create UCI supervisor" "Interacts with UCI worker through interface ; interacts with peers through #trilema standard bot. Maintains list of prices for exposed abilities and Bitcoin address for payments ; list of trusted peers for accepting orders and verifying Bitcoin payments ; administrative policies as appropriate. Directs worker to execute accepted commands, returns results to peer." 2,7
mircea_popescu: darn.
mircea_popescu: %p UCI 8
mircea_popescu: ns results to peer." 2,7
mircea_popescu: %add UCI F "Create UCI supervisor" "Interacts with UCI worker through interface ; interacts with peers through #trilema standard bot. Maintains list of prices for exposed abilities (in satoshi/Gb/second of storage for instance) and Bitcoin address for payments ; list of trusted peers for accepting orders and verifying Bitcoin payments ; administrative policies as appropriate. Directs worker to execute accepted commands, retur ☟︎
mircea_popescu: %p UCI 7
mircea_popescu: %add UCI I "Research and design UCI/worker interface." "UCI element should expose significant portions of native ability (at a very minimum networking ; math processing - CPU and VidCard ; storage - RAM and HDD) through an unified, lightweight interface. Feature load less important than simplicity. " 3,4,5,6
mircea_popescu: %p UCI 6
mircea_popescu: %add UCI F "Create UCI worker for Embedded/ARM" "Worker should interface with kernel, execute all UCI commands, meter resource usage."
mircea_popescu: %p UCI 5
mircea_popescu: %add UCI F "Create UCI worker for Mobile (Android, iOS/OS X)" "Worker should interface with kernel, execute all UCI commands, meter resource usage."
mircea_popescu: %p UCI 4
mircea_popescu: %add UCI F "Create UCI worker for Linux (Ubuntu, Debian, Mint, Fedora, Centos etc)" "Worker should interface with kernel, execute all UCI commands, meter resource usage."
mircea_popescu: %p UCI 3
mircea_popescu: %add UCI F "Create UCI worker for Windows (10, 7, 8/8.1)" "Worker should interface with kernel, execute all UCI commands, meter resource usage."