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mircea_popescu: what's leftover out of these deals to actually do thinks is very much reminiscent of what's left of a drone's salary to buy smokes.
mircea_popescu: this is not a deal in which k is valuing x at y. it is a deal in which X!!! is valuing k at y.
mircea_popescu: "In the deal, Hooli would invest $200 million for equity while in return the two companies would enter into a business development agreement on the side in which Pied Piper guarantees to spend that money in a massive consumer campaign on Hooli’s ad platform."
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: not keybase this time. a fresh one.
asciilifeform: the really galling thing, to me, re: the 200mil sc4mz0rz, is that for prolly less than half of that, a sane man could build a perfectly serviceable chip fab in the pampas or the like
assbot: Logged on 21-09-2015 20:41:24; ascii_field: apparently they have a bastardized wot as well.
mircea_popescu: a, ok.
asciilifeform: (it was to be a thing in 'every light bulb' and 'every tv set')
pete_dushenski: this '21 math' is all too reminiscent of the very same exercise we did back in may of this year : www.contravex.com/2015/05/15/21-inc-and-comcast-sitting-in-a-tree-d-e-r-p-i-n-g/
asciilifeform: it would make some elementary sense, even as a scam, if it were not for the exponentially decaying egg mass
asciilifeform: a $450 egg ?
mircea_popescu: there is some appeal to giving a kid a goose that lays a dollar egg each day.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: intel was right. my figure assumes a frozen universe
mircea_popescu: quarter a day. how big is it ?
gribble: The average time to generate a block at 120000.0 Mhps, given difficulty of 59335351233.9, is 67 years, 17 weeks, 6 days, 4 hours, 15 minutes, and 47 seconds
mircea_popescu: also quietly discarded. like this will be, in a few years.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you have to understand, the 21 thing is merely a remake of an ancient attempt by the coinbase/foundation scammers. it was called "coinlab".
mircea_popescu: how about the neobee "brick and mortar stores" ? could you see a reason for those to exist ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: imho the '21' thing is a genuine puzzler.
assbot: Logged on 21-09-2015 20:30:23; ascii_field: 'you can make a profit but you would not do so by making a profit'
mircea_popescu: this is not a valid objection.
asciilifeform: for a while, anyway.
asciilifeform: 'We'd paid nearly $1 million in income tax on our profits for calendar year 1999. Not so bad considering that we built everything from a $10,000 investment.' << at the risk of cribbing from obama's 'you didn't make that company', greenspun... did not make that idiot dotcom gold rush!
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/arsdigita-greenspun.html << there, read the source for the quote. he meanwhile deleted it from his www but i had a copy.
asciilifeform: 'During the spring of 1999, for example, recruiting 5 hires would earn the employee a Honda S2000. Recruiting 10 employees would net a Ferrari F355. A trophy F355 in bright yellow was kept parked outside of the Prospect Street office in Cambridge to entice employees into recruiting. Later in the summer of 1999, as new management was brought on board, the policy was quietly changed to a lease of the cars, not outright ownership
mircea_popescu: the facts of the matter are that it had a positive cash flow and no investment.
asciilifeform: none of greenspun's cohort was thusly bathed for creating anything like a properly salable product that somebody, somewhere, actually ~wanted~
mircea_popescu: now it's a fucking laughingstock, like declaring it hard to lose money by playing scratch loittery.
mircea_popescu: i wanna meet the guy that DIDNT loise money paying mit-educated anythings 50-85k a year to do whatever they did. which whatever may not include "being acquired" or other purely bezzlematic shenanigans.
mircea_popescu: " But sitting in the parking lot it gave us the appearance of extravagance while inside the building we were living the frugal life--in a world starved for software development talent, it would have been hard to lose money paying MIT-educated programmers $50-85,000 base salaries plus an end-of-year bonus based on accomplishment and the firm's performance."
asciilifeform: ergo a rejection of the latter, always strikes the thinking man - and lunatic, alike - as the most enticing possible thing.
asciilifeform: i had to go and actually dig up a fucking lisp machine to figure out why it cannot be 'suck the cock of' and made a base for future work as-is
mircea_popescu: b. the only people who give a shit about dadaist stuff are involved in it ; c. it's not fucking funny.
assbot: Logged on 22-09-2015 01:55:29; mircea_popescu: what "go suck the cock of the people who made the thing that surprised you for a while, because obviously they know and obviously you don't". nonono, HE IS GOING TO HAVE IDEAS.
assbot: Logged on 21-09-2015 18:48:18; phf: i guess that's why dadaist groups all have long history of denouncement, usually ending with the original founder remaining. otherwise you always have some entrenched fuck proposing a markdown jet, because useful and doesn't hurt and shrug. but when it's the founder itself..
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-09-2015#1281155 << an alternative explanation would go like so : a. the value of all things is predicated on lulz and drama, and nothing else. even if we discovered this point with bitcoin, it's really - like all other things we discovered "about bitcoin", a universal property of reality. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform failure is a subjective point.
mircea_popescu: which has a very "factorization" flavour to it.
asciilifeform: is life of a soldier, for example, a fail ?
mircea_popescu: incidentally, i suspect a lot of the mommentum for the entire "oh broken factors" comes from historical accident. it was in point of fact research into elliptic curves that yielded the fermat proof,
assbot: Logged on 22-09-2015 01:51:12; mircea_popescu: some are here to lead and some others are here to follow, it is a given like e is a given.
asciilifeform: though wiles has a gaunt and somewhat hobo-like flavour to him, from the extant photos
mircea_popescu: btw wiles looks a lot like brin the elder wouldn't you think ?
mircea_popescu: so it'll prolly be resolved, if ever, by a totally unexpected and half nutty formalism
mircea_popescu: i didn't mean "i should like for someone to show me how math works". i just meant i dunno that there's even a promising direction of research into the matter.
asciilifeform: see what such a proof looks like, readily.
assbot: The crime of being American on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1LJyc7I )
mircea_popescu: ie, that it's a conjecture.
asciilifeform: there is no forgiveness for a stupid foundation.
assbot: So this Urbit thing... on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1LJxM1j )
assbot: Logged on 22-09-2015 01:56:31; mircea_popescu: this, incidentally, is what they mean when they discuss self-love as a sin. this is it. the delusional notion that you're good and valuable as you are will fuck you up every time you run into something that puts your worthless shitpersona in perspective. because you won't be able to go on knees properly for lack of practice.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-09-2015#1281876 >> http://www.xach.com/naggum/articles/3185426046243327@naggum.net.html >> 'There is much less intellectual dishonesty among people who aren't smart enough to make up a sufficiently large part of the world that they can live in it, and the bigger part of the world you can create inside your own head, the more important it is that you don't move into your own mind, but keep ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 21-09-2015 18:16:12; ascii_field: phun phakt: it is not a proven fact that the difficulty of the rsa problem as such is equivalent to that of factoring.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-09-2015#1281113 << unavoidable. this is what being a thought leader entails : that EVERYONE ELSE is stuck trying to make your planes out of mud and sticks. for that is what they have and this is what they want. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: so their math is correct, it does cost MULTIPLE DOLLARS to properly settle a transaction, via the TRUSTLESS blockchain mechanism.
mircea_popescu: also, it's not exactly clear what the bitcoin per-transaction COSTS are, but it is quite obvious that a) mining is designed to be a ~0% margin activity and has been exactly that without exception through the history and b) the PRICE paid for a block which is usually 1-2k transactions is usually 25ish BTC, which is for simplicity 5k dollars.
mircea_popescu: this, incidentally, is what they mean when they discuss self-love as a sin. this is it. the delusional notion that you're good and valuable as you are will fuck you up every time you run into something that puts your worthless shitpersona in perspective. because you won't be able to go on knees properly for lack of practice. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: between stolfi and lew rockwell, a whole fucking massed galaxy of these imbeciles.
mircea_popescu: what "go suck the cock of the people who made the thing that surprised you for a while, because obviously they know and obviously you don't". nonono, HE IS GOING TO HAVE IDEAS. ☟︎
assbot: Stage n: Bitcoin exists. on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1MFKNie )
assbot: Logged on 21-09-2015 16:57:27; ascii_field: 'Broadly, the design difference between Urbit and a blockchain network is that blockchains are "trust superconductors" - they eliminate any dependency on social, political or economic trust. Urbit is a "trust conductor" - engineered to minimize, but not eliminate, dependencies on trust.'
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-09-2015#1281109 << "broadly the difference is that curtis originally didn't understand what this all is, then got called on it by http://trilema.com/2013/stage-n-bitcoin-exists/ then had someone who can actually think explain what's going on to him, then the next day came up with.... wait for it... HIS OWN IDEA OF HOW TO MAKE A BETTER BITCOIN. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: some are here to lead and some others are here to follow, it is a given like e is a given. ☟︎
asciilifeform: why would a fella who can administer broken teeth to the d.a., end up in a jail at any point ?
asciilifeform: actually it does not matter at all to usg if a trial is a 'new' one, or rerun of 'hung jury' trial.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-09-2015#1281097 << if a hog fucks a goat in my presence, in the sense that i was in the same country at some point, this does not qualify the resulting hogbeast as "my bastard" ☝︎
danielpbarron: at least a hung jury wastes more USG money
asciilifeform: this simply leads to a new trial.
asciilifeform: and if the judge catches a juror actively persuading others to nullify, he can try him for 'contempt'
asciilifeform: jury nullification is, contrary to popular belief, not really a thing in usa. not in the sense that it is impossible - it is certainly possible, on paper. but in practice verdict (in criminal cases) must be unanimous, and it never happens.
mircea_popescu: lol danielpbarron got himself a mining rig huh.
assbot: Logged on 21-09-2015 20:29:28; ascii_field: mine a satoshi a day so redditard can feel l337 ?
asciilifeform: i personally don't give a damn if they had been doing it to please odin.
asciilifeform: and - ianal, but, afaik it is a 'strict liability' offence in usa. this means that considerations like 'i had no idea this was on my box' only count with respect to the decision to prosecute - that is, ~in the event the prosecutor deems it worthy of consideration~ - rather than on the matter of guilt or innocence.
asciilifeform: 'hackteam' leak revealed a spiffy, user-friendly bot module used by usg to remotely cp-ize winblowz users. it was mentioned in guess how many newspapers.
asciilifeform: all cp prosecutions are, without exception, exercises of 'lettre du cachet' powers. on account of the impossibility of proving otherwise, plus the lack of anyone giving half a rat's arse re: said proof.
asciilifeform: tions and so on and so forth. Specifically excluded from all this - what the code actually says and does. Particularly "criminal" - using a computer in the manner it itself allows to be used.'
asciilifeform: t be used and so on and so forth. Specifically excluded from all this - the woman in question. Particularly "criminal" at the time - using a woman in the manner she herself wishes to be used. Times have changed, women are now worthless, but computers aren't, and these same dead hand fictions propose anew : that they own all computers, that if you own a computer it's only a sublease from them, subject to furthering their regula
asciilifeform: 'At a past time when the ownership of female humans was the principal method to control capital formation and the political process, the same sort of dead hand fictions proposed that they in fact control the usage of women, that anyone owning a woman does so only as a sublicense from their sovereign ownership of all women, and may proceed only in furtherance of the regulation they emitted as to how women may be used and may no
assbot: A new software licensing paradigm on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1JGVObY )
asciilifeform: as described in the footnotes of http://trilema.com/2015/a-new-software-licensing-paradigm
asciilifeform: this is not a necessary hypothesis.
asciilifeform: 'The real power, the power we have to fight for night and day, is not power over things, but over men.' He paused, and for a moment assumed again his air of a schoolmaster questioning a promising pupil: 'How does one man assert his power over another, Winston?' Winston thought. 'By making him suffer,' he said. 'Exactly. By making him suffer. Obedience is not enough. Unless he is suffering, how can you be sure tha ☟︎
trinque: and you know, knocked around by the legal system a bit
asciilifeform: but it was a thing.
asciilifeform: education in su, at least in so far as it pertained to maths and the physical sciences, was most certainly not a feature of a 'make'em stupid' plan of whatever sort.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-09-2015#1281071 << why do you think this is either difficult or even rare on a vm ?! ☝︎
mircea_popescu: it's a sort of misery that masquerades as "good enough".
pete_dushenski: http://econlog.econlib.org/archives/2015/09/were_number_16.html << heh. usistan drops from 10th to 16th in 'economic freedom' in a span of just 4 years
mircea_popescu: yeah, doubt the 1k a pop scenario is possible, amd never had good mb support.
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-09-2015#1281255 << man o man is this worth a chuckle ☝︎
asciilifeform: sorta like pete_dushenski would react if i asked 'recommend a car'
pete_dushenski: phf: after watching a bit more of that u19 boys doubles vid, both sides are awfully nervous
phf: pete_dushenski: right, according the wikipedia it's a series of lobs, followed by drop shot
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: inb4 amd opterons are going for $1k a pop
assbot: Logged on 21-09-2015 15:28:09; pete_dushenski: "AMD's top microprocessor architect Jim Keller has walked from the chip vendor, just months after the company unveiled a shift in strategy to reinvest in high-end FX CPUs. Keller quit on Friday, having returned to AMD in 2012 after most recently working at Apple."
pete_dushenski: phf: what's 'a dunking game' ?
mircea_popescu: actually the wall thing didn't have a [single] name but it was perfectly acceptable passtime for getting the players together for a game o' football.
mircea_popescu: cazalla it's that thing where you're supposed to shoot at a small goal gate from no closer than 7 meters
phf: the height of chic was to get an opponent into a dunking game, and then do a light drop right by the net. perfectly execute resulted in shuttle skirting the edge and dropping on the other side. not sure if that's properly legal though. many a games have been lost because somebody wanted to show off and ended up hitting the net on own side