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mircea_popescu: the closest conceivable item,
the haiti plantationeers, spoke french.
mircea_popescu: my reading was slightly different. "strange sort of new world equivalent of old world aristocracy, stranded in incomprehension
through lack of language and, properly speaking, any sort of
tradition supporting him"
mircea_popescu: that he cheated it is no proof against ; but on
the contrary, proof he did.
mircea_popescu: (amusingly,
the "balabusta" concept, which is used in romanian
to denote a fat GYPSY woman, but actually is a jewish word denoting a comme il faut (ie, fat) housewife is proof positive
thjat
the jews were in fact even more
traditional
than
the peasants
that hated
them)_
mircea_popescu: and
THIS is why jefferson advocated nonsense : not because "he was perpetually in debt", but because
the style of womenholding he had grown up in and preferred was untenable. which is why he was in debt and also why he was pro silkver and everyhing else : feudal lord wanting
to compete with
the moderns and discovering he can't, and
that
the cuntlets dun care.
mircea_popescu: the propagandistic aim of
the film is
to propose
that
the agent of
this dissolution was
the ethnic jew. which... well, it's a dubious point like all
truths of propaganda. but
the
thing it DISTRACTS from is
that... without women market
there's no modernity, which is
to say no "progress" or steam engine. a point poorly diggested by
the councilmen of
the peasantry,
mircea_popescu: (the film is exceptional in
that it summarily but correctly renders
the early capitalism dissolution of
traditional feudalism :
the lord wants a "ballet" so as
to line up
the nubile daughters of
the land for feeling up ;
the councilmen do not wish
to give him ~the money~
to make one because it's
their fucking daughters. capital exists, in
the early modern phase,
to dissolve
the
traditional family, in
the strict sense of liber
mircea_popescu: to prove
this, i bring
the following point : in
http://trilema.com/2017/jud-suss/ the lord of swabia complains
that
the city council won't get him stuff
that, by
the standards of
the empire';s holds in belgrade, would be very modest.
phf: american "founding fathers" in a lot of ways remind me of
the
three musketeers" "i sold
this ring from a countess
that i fuck, let's go have some proper food"
mircea_popescu: so -- yes washington was mega plantor ; yes
this is respectable ; no it wouldn't have bought him a set of dandy shirts.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform no such
thing as restaurant outside of paris, vienna, and a few more.
phf: jefferson has a lot of lulzy stories of balling out while he was an ambassador
to france. he's also
the person who advocated 10 year (5?) debt removal system, being perpetually in debt
mircea_popescu: french not-even-rich guy gambled away in one night
the income for 100 square kilometers of plantation
a111: Logged on 2017-12-13 17:18 mircea_popescu: (and yes for MOST of us history,
the us president couldn't afford
to pay for restaurant meals. fact.)
mircea_popescu: a lot of smarter folk put A LOT more work
than i ever did into "modern computing plarform" and didn't get as much out of it.
phf: "my son is so smart, he really understands
the
technology!! he plays with his ipad all day" on
the other hand
mircea_popescu: amusing what iniquity
this brings, seeing how fucking
terrible i am, and yet by 8bit priviledge...
mircea_popescu: this is a revelation
ticos, for instance, by and large never achieved ; and you will be surprised if you examine young slavegirl hopefuls, in
that
they also, do not see
the world as mere covers stretched on a numeric structure.
a111: Logged on 2017-12-11 19:40 mircea_popescu: cut
through
the gringo fleecing zone, and
the quicker
the better.
a111: Logged on 2017-12-13 17:32 phf: ben_vulpes: have considering buying him a commodore or somesuch, i.e. a basic repl machine
that you can also use
to
teach him about
the meaning of peek/poke?
phf: did you give him a copy of lord chesterfield's letters
to his son? :p
a111: Logged on 2014-07-10 18:07 benkay: latin, ballroom,
the classics, various kinds of combat
ben_vulpes: phf: some day perhaps, he is well occupied learning
to make me breakfast and working on his basic numeracy at
the moment
ben_vulpes: i actually caved for a plane ride recently, procured a set of entirely unobjectionable 45-minute videos of various animals
tearing each other apart. imagine my fury when
the downloadotron had failed
to save
these for
the flight!
phf: ben_vulpes: have considering buying him a commodore or somesuch, i.e. a basic repl machine
that you can also use
to
teach him about
the meaning of peek/poke?
☟︎ mircea_popescu: this convo somehow ended up so fucking dense i keep having
to re-read from behind
ben_vulpes: i speak stricly of
the miserable agglomeration of
transistors with no purpose
phf: asciilifeform: i actually bought, at some point, at "garbushka" bazaar, a cd with a psychedelic design,
that had an entire collection of all kinds of "computernarcotic" softwares
☟︎ mircea_popescu: how do you expect digestion works. computational machines ALL
THE WAY DOWN
ben_vulpes not going
to
try, computronium strictly off-limits
to
the feeble-minded and children in my house
phf: apropos, i was always curious if
that old school binaural sound generator program from
the late 90s could be used
to pacify children, but never had a chance
to
try
☟︎ ben_vulpes: some yes! monetization algorithms get
the humans
to do a lot of
the work as well, which helps
the whole 'ecosystem' escape local minima
☟︎ phf: ben_vulpes: as far as i understand some of
those videos are actually algorithmically generated?
ben_vulpes: strictly designed
to
turn
the learning part of
tiny brains off and
turn
them into drooling zombies.
a111: Logged on 2017-12-13 17:12 asciilifeform: nobody said
theory had
to include a 'why'!11
ben_vulpes: dude
the horror
that is youtube's autoselected content for wee ones is unplumbable.
☟︎ ben_vulpes: 'tis
the hole
through which
the camels nose comes in.
mircea_popescu: the rhytmic pulsing
thing may not be
terrible. iirc actually works on mild autism.
ben_vulpes: yes well now we have
transistors and
the high-pixel density hyperattractors
mircea_popescu: the irish wetnurse mixed whiskey in
the milkfeed ;
the italian wetnurse masturbated
the infant.
mircea_popescu: to revisit
tradition :
there are
two main strands in "wet nurse pacifying neglected upper class kid his mom dun want" :
the irish and
the italian.
phf: clearly, it meditates on
the child's behalf
☟︎ ben_vulpes: yes,
this is a woman who is an american "school counselor" and she interprets her job
to be placating kids with fucking ipads
ben_vulpes: the retardation with
these folks is astonishingly deep: get
this. one wife placates her children with an ipad meditation app.
ben_vulpes: still astonished
the pantsuits
that a) child can eat with spoon and b) would eat something with flavor
mircea_popescu: tradition in mp's slice of old world is
that hot peppers not good for single-digit age kids.
ben_vulpes: moreover, what does sitting prez a la obab even pay for. agent orange clearly living at mar a lago because omfg rats in
the white house
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> imo very much worth it for
the fisherman. << yah, pretty reasonable for a guided
trip. probably be a blast.
ben_vulpes: lol right, salary last
time i checked as a kid was what, 100k? sounded like lots when i was a kid but
today...
mircea_popescu: perhaps. or perhaps vice-versa : apple
tree was spectacular bit of steel, marketing cocksuckers
trying
to
take it over.
ben_vulpes: the apple
tree was a spectacular spot of marketing; doesn't mean
the guy lacked in steel.
mircea_popescu: (and yes for MOST of us history,
the us president couldn't afford
to pay for restaurant meals. fact.)
☟︎ mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes not very possible. it's easy
to believe
that "thank you for your leadersheep" cocksuckers a la mccain and what's-his-name-married-ketchup aren't worth pressing for glue. HOWEVER back when
the country was poor and
the us president depended on
the largesse of european middle class
to afford a meal in a decent restaurant,
they HAD
to have had some folk with mettle
mircea_popescu: mod6 incidentally,
they have it pretty well streamlined. spend a grand or so, hire a boat with crew, go fishing for
the whole day.
ben_vulpes: just a lie like
the rest of
the american myth
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes well,
that guy cut down some cherry
tree...
mircea_popescu: i've yet
to encounter
this wonder, correctly parented hussy. but who knows, maybe it's just me.
ben_vulpes: if you let food become such an issue
that you're fighting over it at dishwashing age you dun fucked up way
the fuck uptree.
mircea_popescu: "love
the fucking food or else you do dishes all night and
then straight
to school at 8am missy"
ben_vulpes: (clearly also lacking in
the discipline
to say "eat what we eat or go
to bed hungry")