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asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: in somewhat related nyooz, i've been experimenting with what for now i call 'v' - a very dumb 'versioner' that i've been writing, which eats solely 0) pgp keys 1) patches 2) signatures for same, many-to-many mapping of (2) to (1) ☟︎
asciilifeform: sorta what i was getting at
asciilifeform: (i confronted him personally, at his house, he said 'stuff it')
mircea_popescu: "my faucet leaks so i wonder how this gravity curvature of spacetime thing could be made to work to my benefit"
mircea_popescu: and i'm entirely at a loss as to why you'd want to engineer THAT
asciilifeform: it tried, i have a bag of'em here
asciilifeform: this is why i said 'like cannon' aha.
asciilifeform: i can see it.
asciilifeform: i had this whole 'trip' while holding a ru z80 in my hands and wondering why there is no more where it came from
asciilifeform: aha but i'm cheaper.
asciilifeform: i.e. that ~all~ asics are quite like bitcoin asics in that respect
asciilifeform: the notion i was trying to get at is that presently existing units were financed on 100% 'jam tomorrow'
mircea_popescu: "all i did all week was write a program to save me one keystroke per month - INCREASE WORKEFICIENCY!1"
mircea_popescu: there is a directly obvious place where this is true. the way i approach a problem ? i have someone do it by hand. after enough of this, i have someone else automatize the easy to automatize parts. it grows from there.
assbot: Logged on 08-08-2015 00:32:20; asciilifeform: just to add to the already forming lsd trip in this thread: i'm not personally convinced that ic production HAS EVER BEEN +EV
cazalla: trinque, wasn't implying that, more that if i could do it then probably anyone else here can do the same
assbot: Logged on 07-08-2015 06:40:37; trinque: I think the lesson here is that at least with current materials, they can't
cazalla: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-08-2015#1228865 http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-08-2015#1228867 <<< mod6's guide was pretty straight forward when i used it to install gentoo, fell short on foundation's bitcoin though :\ ☝︎☝︎
mircea_popescu: "I think that it's extraordinarily important that we in computer science keep fun in computing. When it started out, it was an awful lot of fun. Of course, the paying customers got shafted every now and then, and after a while we began to take their complaints seriously. We began to feel as if we really were responsible for the successful, error-free perfect use of these machines. I don't think we are. I think we're re
decimation: I enjoyed my time here, learned much, had many lolz. I do not wish to cause drama or be an impediment to improving bitcoin. Even though I presently have L2 rating from a few people, I am not going impose on their good grace by remaining. God bless all of you.
mircea_popescu: i mostly sweat elaborate curse words.
mircea_popescu: heh i guess huh
mircea_popescu: i am somehow unconcerned.
mircea_popescu: the soviets need stalin like i need my nail clippings.
asciilifeform: notice i mentioned su likewise
asciilifeform: whereas i suspect that it is only a small part of the great shortages
mircea_popescu: i see.
asciilifeform: (i.e. by force of army, by 'everyone else sucks so profoundly in comparison that there can be no debate', ...
asciilifeform: because required 1) someone to write it 2) who could 'win' on one of the roughly 5 'standard wins' that i outline in http://www.loper-os.org/?p=305
mircea_popescu: i don't get the usl part.
nubbins`: anyway i should go listen to music and inhale drug smoke
nubbins`: add a spare blade, i think i dropped close to a thou on that fucking thing
nubbins`: wait, i was having fun? :D
mircea_popescu: i have a dog that can slobber better than any race horse :D
nubbins`: i do have a lovely plough, cca 14th century tech, that can trim a phone book cleaner than the phone book factory does
nubbins`: i have neither the means nor the will
mircea_popescu: which means, i'll spend fifty, because hey, it keeps one or more lawyers owing me for the bread i provided them
nubbins`: meantime, i have paper to cut, feet to rest on coffee tables...
nubbins`: but am i gonna spend a year in court arguing it?
nubbins`: listen, i don't disagree
assbot: Logged on 07-08-2015 22:54:22; mircea_popescu: i'll take over the us fed and run it from right here, and if there's nobody else i'll take over fucking china silicon and run it from right here too. what in the ever loving fuck.
nubbins`: not in 1st world anyway. when i was in the sacred valley of peru, right in the middle of a 7 hour hike i came across a bunch of guys building a church outta mud bricks
nubbins`: nah, what i was going at is that people wanted to do it for free
asciilifeform: anyway this thread really cannot go anywhere without a mircea_popescu, so i will leave it here.
asciilifeform: i contend that (b) necessarily involves the same amount of enslavement as (a)
asciilifeform: if anyone has the link (or if i hallucinated this existing) please say.
asciilifeform: i am now looking for the mircea_popescu article where he hypothesized that 'bezzle' is, without exception, born out of people doing things that are -ev on the large scale - in just the same way as elements heavier than iron are born in supernova
mod6: I'm gonna re-tackle the rotor build tomorrow btw.
asciilifeform: i.e., people want dildoes. yes.
trinque: I am to the point where a bootable root.img is repeatably produced
trinque: asciilifeform: how bout I show you what I've produced tomorrow re: self-replicating gentoo and get your feedback?
nubbins`: was gonna argue but realized i misread
funkenstein_: I just bought: Structure and Interpretation of Computer Programs - 2nd Edition (MIT Electrical Engineering and Computer Science)
nubbins`: and then i found myself in a spiral of photolitho articles.
nubbins`: TBH i think stuff like VLSI is only kept going because everyone involved is afraid the machines won't start up again if they stop
asciilifeform: just to add to the already forming lsd trip in this thread: i'm not personally convinced that ic production HAS EVER BEEN +EV ☟︎
nubbins`: am i incorrect in that AM etc early models essentially just baked an FPGA design?
asciilifeform: (and who am i to contend that they were wrong?)
asciilifeform: if mircea_popescu suddenly feels like commissioning the production of an ic from own personal lunch money, who am i to discourage
assbot: Logged on 07-08-2015 22:54:22; mircea_popescu: i'll take over the us fed and run it from right here, and if there's nobody else i'll take over fucking china silicon and run it from right here too. what in the ever loving fuck.
nubbins`: i designed some posters this week: http://imgur.com/a/QhwUN
asciilifeform: the book (lovingly referred to as sicp, 'sick pee') is a textbook illustration of precisely what i mean when i say 'fits in head'.
mircea_popescu: i suppose another way would be to cut holes in cardboard and shoot through the hole.
mircea_popescu: i thought this is how ranges are ?!
assbot: Logged on 07-08-2015 23:29:18; trinque: I once read The Little Schemer, wasn't bad
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-08-2015#1229671 << i own the whole series (all but the idiot java volume.) some of'em coloured by old gf, even. just last week got the latest 'little prover' in the post! ☝︎
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-08-2015#1229596 << i've been making something quite like this. (see last bullet in aug.'15 s.nsa broadcast for summary) ☝︎
mircea_popescu: i am ALSO just ribbing you.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-08-2015#1229582 << if meant 'perly', i welcome suggestions of how it could be made less so. but - the incantation works. i encourage folks to try it. presently investigating how to re-sign things while preserving all timestamps. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: i guess we like it.
mircea_popescu: i don't recall if we like or loathe scheme
trinque: I once read The Little Schemer, wasn't bad ☟︎
mircea_popescu: but i fucking mean poetry, do not drone on like tech people do.
trinque: and that's been the rub I think; what's the answer for a developer that shows up, and what's the answer for someone that wants to turn his life around
mircea_popescu: i mean, where you headed with this maybe im confused. is this noob system ?
trinque: I am open to offering options like the openbsd installer for say X, other things
trinque: mircea_popescu: I'm close; show ya something tomorrow
mircea_popescu: trinque ubuntu folks had the process down pat for their thing, which is how i even ended up recommending it, briefly.
mircea_popescu: i'd rather read about flies fuck
assbot: Logged on 07-08-2015 19:22:41; danielpbarron: hahha yeah right i'm gonna play some game that isn't eulora
assbot: Logged on 07-08-2015 19:10:23; ben_vulpes: i just recall faint intimations that it wasn't quite the focus as it is in eve or wow
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-08-2015#1229502 << i am, and i did, and i see no problem with any of this. you may go to a museum whether you wish to take notes or draw copies, why should anyone care ? "oh but the statues were expensive to make, how dare you write abnout them, you should draw! el minimo respeto!!11" ?? ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 07-08-2015 19:03:22; ben_vulpes: i imagined a path the other night where chetty actually stopped maintaining her owhn client
mircea_popescu: i'll take over the us fed and run it from right here, and if there's nobody else i'll take over fucking china silicon and run it from right here too. what in the ever loving fuck. ☟︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: i ain't waiting for jwz to wake up.
mircea_popescu: if i'm not taking it over, who the fuck is, "the state" ? aliens ? chtulhu ?
mircea_popescu: i'm not twelve.
danielpbarron: i bought this laptop (the one on which I play Eulora) specifically for its video card; at the time I needed to be able to play Dota and minecraft on linux
shinohai: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-08-2015#1229602 I like this philosophy ☝︎
mircea_popescu: "Error : Your videocard is not old enough for you to be here. Get an older videocard and come back". this is what i wish to see.
mircea_popescu: i never heard of horse smog.
trinque: I have put some work into this today. I converted mod6's guide to a script which builds a bootable root.img
assbot: Logged on 07-08-2015 18:44:44; gernika: General question - is there value in continuing to test stator, and future versions of it, on OpenBSD? Or should I abandon that and just test on Gentoo from now on?
assbot: Logged on 07-08-2015 18:12:58; ben_vulpes: i'd not mind learning a bit more about the thing so's i can have some fun automating it
danielpbarron: ah, actually i may have actually tried this
danielpbarron: until recently i had given up on computer gaming completely
danielpbarron: hahha yeah right i'm gonna play some game that isn't eulora ☟︎
danielpbarron: i don't know what that is, so no
danielpbarron: i played on MCPVP, the most hardcore pvp server there was
chetty: <ben_vulpes> in favor of a few different text based ones//I like it