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n6: ascii_field: why should I check both sigs here, and how?
shinohai: I did the pogotron thing and still wound up with a x86 binary
shinohai: mod6 says it builds a binary but won't run. As soon as mine completes I'll confirm.
ascii_field: i posted a working example of this months ago
n6: ascii_field: I want to build gentoo using a x86 but for an armv7a, using something like distcc? would that make the builds DETERMINISTIC since everything you would need would be included?
ascii_field: i see harmless -Wall barf
ascii_field: shinohai: i don't see an error
shinohai: Something like that, though I still can't make cross-compilation work. I'm not the wizard ascii_field is.
shinohai: ascii_field: mod6 and I having an unusual bug on Ubuntu 14.04 http://dpaste.com/1PCQ44J.txt
funkenstein_: I think they should publish on court website exactly the number which they forbid to be published just so we all know not to publish it
shinohai: I'm Pro-Hammer
shinohai: I dunno, but I like his style
shinohai: It's cheaper for me to hire a private nurse. I get better care and don't have to be in a filthy hospital.
shinohai: Of course, I'm not a senior but was quite outraged at the cost of everyday items my last hospital stay.
shinohai: I'm just smh at the state of priorities in the "Criminal Justice System".
cazalla: shinohai, prob the tip of the iceberg, i assume a lot of paedos work in such professions
BingoBoingo: <wilbns> BingoBoingo: You mentioned the other day about "how could anyone trust Greenwald" - I think I missed something there. What did he do? << His body language, his carriage, when he does and doesn't express discomfort. Coincidences between Greenwald finding things out and things going to shit...
wilbns: BingoBoingo: You mentioned the other day about "how could anyone trust Greenwald" - I think I missed something there. What did he do?
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron i dunno that anyone does that yet
coderwill: i was switching my nick, maybe that had something to do w/ it.
danielpbarron: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-07-2015#1213181 << I'd like to transition my twitter bashing of this channel to my own blog, and would like it to be hosted by that BISP thing but not directly, like rent out some space on someone else's thingy. Is this a possibility yet? ☝︎
mod6: I'm going to be afk for the rest of the night, but I can perhaps talk about it with you tomorrow.
mod6: Meanwhile, I can offer you a script that I use to patch up through maxint_locks_corrected from v0.5.3.1 -- it's not a guide, but if you read the steps, it's what needs to happen and in what order. The new (forthcoming) guide will be based on these steps: http://dpaste.com/0YVSD6Q.txt
mod6: hanbot: yeah, the guide needs to be updated. It's on the to-do list, just had my hands full lately. I can help you get patched up from v0.5.3.1 if you like. We can work on that this week.
assbot: how-i-feel-rn ... ( http://bit.ly/1TiZu95 )
ben_vulpes: phf: http://how-i-feel-rn.shithouse.tv/
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: i did eventually succeed with the rotor/stator combo
ben_vulpes: and by 'kicking off' i mean 'kicked off 2 minutes ago and was distracted by lawgz'
phf: ben_vulpes: one sec, i almost pushed another patch
dbit: mircea_popescu, ok I got registered
hanbot: still want to build stator, "manually": 0.5.3.1 release + six-patch battery required to achieve stator. verified release will run on my (32bit) ubuntu box w/ mod6. so now, patching (for which i was following said guide, all six patches sha1sum & sig verified)
asciilifeform: i might be able to help
hanbot: i'll have a look at the test2 bit.
hanbot: i think ben_vulpes' thingy was solely for dependencies + release, sans patching, could be wrong.
asciilifeform: (i have not, unfortunately, tested the latter)
asciilifeform: i am unaware of it
hanbot: i did. is there a new&improved patching guide? i missed it if so
hanbot: the ml patching guide (http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-March/000067.html) step 0x07] Clean Source Base involves manifests which i take it are part of the guide's referenced patch tarballs. given the stator patch battery is single .patch file only, how's one to handle this step (and why does guide assume patch will come in ball?)?
mircea_popescu: i guess this resolves our standing dispute re whores/programmers. turns out it was a misunderstanding.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: actually i happen to regard the alarm clock as the single most destructively irritating thing in my entire existence
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i suspect you misnomer management as "programming skill"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform but i mean... you wouldn't propose the alarm clock is a manager would you.
dbit: mircea_popescu, can I have a Eulora account?
mircea_popescu: (it's the view i moistly take)
asciilifeform: i like to think of the more positive, stalin sense
asciilifeform: but i do not think this corresponds to the generally-understood meaning of the word 'management'
asciilifeform: or what, i sit and write a sorter, and so i'm being managed by kerr knuth!?
asciilifeform: but thus far most of the software artifacts i personally see as making a computer worth using at all, were written by one (or handful) of people, and largely on stolen/embezzled employer time, and under no management whatsoever other than the 'emperor in their heads'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: eulora, conceivably, but i don't know enough about how it was built, and precisely by whom, and to what kind of outcome, to say anything interesting
asciilifeform: could. but none of the items i'm personally familiar with in depth do
asciilifeform: i regard it as far from proven fact that these are separable activities in software-making.
mircea_popescu: i can see it
assbot: Panegyric. Volume I ... ( http://bit.ly/1PfzvyO )
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-08-2015#1232677 << i lolled. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: no but i mean... wtf.
phf: asciilifeform: i think his class was a entry level elective, so a bunch of special snowflakes took it to distinguish themselves on transcript
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform this is a good idea incidewntally. if i ran the school, it'd be "this class fails 90% - if the teacher doesn't flunk that many we'll draw lots, but student body DOES get decimated one way or another"
phf: mircea_popescu: there's an internal conflict resolution body, which essentially mirrors us court system. when i had some issues with the school, i was immediately advised to higher a lawyer by every random student i talked to about it
mircea_popescu: i thot the vulgate is that lawyers aren't allowed on campus.
asciilifeform: and wtf, much harsher coursework was done there when i was a wee lad
mircea_popescu: phf i don't get this lawyers thing tbh. nothing left of the 60s parisian uprising in the us ?
mircea_popescu: i like teh approach phf
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i did mention it's controversial :)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: '...not unlike the idea that there can exist "professional code" or professional defecation. Get over it, everyone's doing it anyway.' << i've said before, and will say again: this not-unfounded notion is not a neutral observation, but a normative; and for so long as folks expect a steaming heap of shit on their plates, that is what will be served for dinner.
phf: ben_vulpes, gernika: i just pushed another version. see if "pf/homebrew-eulora" is in brew update results. also it /should/ now use gcc-4.6 but who the fuck knows. rebuild if don't mind spending electricity, i'll continue reading homebrew source code
ben_vulpes: phf: i have, will again
gernika: Looks like I've got gcc42 as well
gernika: I do have gcc46 - I'm not sure if I have other gcc versions or not - I vaguely recall xcode installing some compiler or other
phf: now it's push pull against homebrew.. i take it you have gcc46 installed via homebrew and no other gcc versions
gernika: phf - been following along - that's what I get
phf: ben_vulpes: have you been brew update'ing? i'm looking at the latest log and it looks like an older version of a script. `git -C $(brew --repository)/Library/Taps/pf/homebrew-eulora log|head -1|awk '{print $2}'` should return ce6d58194e2371ac9d4295e3a9a336fe6e44c548
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i do ?
phf: williamdunne: i guess i might've also did a wild guess, i assume you're getting some standard-objects from somewhere, and they come out as #<FOO #x123123> or somesuch and you're trying to figure out, what's inside of them. you can (inspect foo) to see the insides of the object on repl, or you can call that (defmethod ...) and then every time an object is displayed on repl it's going to be displayed as #<FOO (value . 1) (value2 . "hello")> i
williamdunne: phf: if I just run it, it has no inputs. Or am I just entirely derping?
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-08-2015#1232838 << and when i tell mircea_popescu 'they own the backbone', he laughs ☝︎☟︎
mod6: <+ben_vulpes> after much derping, i have a rotor-built stator bitcoind << heeey! neat. :]
ben_vulpes: after much derping, i have a rotor-built stator bitcoind
phf: i.e. you don't need to know about streams to use that function
williamdunne: phf: Thanks, although I'm still trying to wrap my head around streams
mircea_popescu: i r ask!
ben_vulpes: and so i end up commenting out sections of scripts. adding -xeu myself. and so forth.
assbot: Logged on 07-08-2015 14:35:50; mircea_popescu: it's almost as if he respects the scholar and despises the whore^H^H^H^H i mean programmer
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: recall your observation http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-08-2015#1229166 ? i often have problems naming something that i strongly feel doesn't deserve a name ☝︎
ben_vulpes: that's all i've ever wanted out of these scripts.
phf: only works for ccl and sbcl, so if you're using something different i'll need to extend it
trinque: ben_vulpes: I dunno what x and u do
mircea_popescu: i said this.
ben_vulpes: lol why oh why does this script carry on merrily even after i set -e
trinque: in related news, my script works for both disk images and block devices; however, I need to figure out why the usb device isn't present at the time the initrd goes looking for root
mircea_popescu: anyway, i'm penning a "racists and the racist idea" piece, should help.
phf: i think by last polls we were "pervs"
mircea_popescu: it's explained how to register with assbot. after that i'll rate you and you can ahve an eulora account.
asciilifeform: last i saw, fare was more of a 'libertarian'-flavoured crackpot ?
phf: i've met xach a few times at post-ilc pub sessions, i think he's doing lisp consulting for clozure, but yeah i don't really know the details. i think him, fare, etc. would dismiss this place on superficial grounds being self proclaimed feminists. last i checked fare's twitter it was an equal mix of lisp conversations and sjw rhetoric
asciilifeform: back when i released pogotron
asciilifeform: i did warn!
phf: i love xah, but he fell out of contact by becoming increasing more chaotic
asciilifeform: i'm entirely misremembering
phf: williamdunne: rob warnock has a series of posts on how to use lisp effectively even if you don't have emacs running, i often find it a reasonable path for lisp novices, particularly when you don't want the complexity of emacs to get in the way of early explorations. http://xach.com/rpw3/articles/BJqdnd9R65ee3qDbnZ2dnUVZ_vGinZ2d%40speakeasy.net.html, http://xach.com/rpw3/articles/PJudnYz2hfC-HQbYnZ2dnUVZ_ternZ2d%40speakeasy.net.html, http://
assbot: In C++ my variables are signed but I have no place to put my signature. What did I do wrong? : shittyprogramming ... ( http://bit.ly/1L01OCP )